Chicago’s Urban Prep Does It Again: 100 Percent College Acceptance

[wheywhey]

you are making up standards, 15-17 percent is double the rate, so the extra spending and hours is doubling the rate compared to their piers, students from other neighborhoods are not their piers

as for the dropouts that is why we need more charters and less public schools

The students come from the entire city of Chicago, not just the neighborhood. So, Urban Prep has to be compared to the entire district, or at least black boys district-wide. The students are chosen by blind lottery without evaluation of grades and test scores. Some students leave because they are incapable of doing college prep work, not all are lazy or disobedient. 85% of Chicago public school students are low-income, about the same as Urban Prep.

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No matter how we look at it 100% of the class going to college is amazing. When I graduated we lost 1/3rd of our class too and only 24% went to college. I don't think is bad at all. Good for those kids.

96% go to college not 100%, although 96% is great. Some students attend community college, not all go to 4-year institutions.

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[The Real]

well, yes, actually students that go to public schools do dropout

the students at urban prep are drawn from the same population at random, so the only way urban prep's scores wouldnt be significant would be if the dropout rate is higher

You're being willfully naïve. The selection process here isn't as important as who they decide to keep and who gets pushed out.

Also, I was wrong about the attrition rate- it's not 1/3, it's actually almost 50%.

 

[wire28]

One of the reasons they have a 100% acceptance rate for seniors is that their attrition rate is incredibly high. They lost almost 1/3 of their initial class from freshmen year to graduation, which is a massive loss. They force the lower performers out. This makes their actual graduation rate actually 6 points lower than the district average, which is not an achievement.

The other reason is that they refuse to graduate people who aren't accepted into a college, which naturally results in a perfect graduation/acceptance correlation. They can do this since they are a charter that sets their own requirements.

It's worth noting that their Chicago comp exam results are at 15%, which are far lower than the Chicago average of 23%. That means those that graduated barely made the cut, and that they struggled through HS, meaning they will almost certainly struggle through college and have a high dropout rate, which is the established patten of such students.

This is what happens when you focus on fluffing stats and leaving kids behind instead of on education.

i knew nikkas werent smart enough to get an education. glad you found the loophole brother!




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Nope, I want to see black people succeed. I think we need to look at all success stories of black communities and try to pinpoint what exactly are they doing differently from other unfortunate black communities. We need to take full advantage of the pathway to success.

how can we succeed when we have genes that predispose us to violence who knows what other genes we have, maybe a stupid gene

 

[The Real]

i knew nikkas werent smart enough to get an education. glad you found the loophole brother!

Why are you putting words in my mouth?

 

[blackzeus]

Damn, that's better than top national high schools! 100% Chicago prep the modern day timbuktu

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

One of the reasons they have a 100% acceptance rate for seniors is that their attrition rate is incredibly high. They lost almost 1/3 of their initial class from freshmen year to graduation, which is a massive loss. They force the lower performers out. This makes their actual graduation rate actually 6 points lower than the district average, which is not an achievement.

The other reason is that they refuse to graduate people who aren't accepted into a college, which naturally results in a perfect graduation/acceptance correlation. They can do this since they are a charter that sets their own requirements.

It's worth noting that their Chicago comp exam results are at 15%, which are far lower than the Chicago average of 23%. That means those that graduated barely made the cut, and that they struggled through HS, meaning they will almost certainly struggle through college and have a high dropout rate, which is the established patten of such students.

This is what happens when you focus on fluffing stats and leaving kids behind instead of on education.

This is my problem with charter schools. Let public schools do this, I'm sure their performance rate would be through the roof

 

[theworldismine13]

You're being willfully naïve. The selection process here isn't as important as who they decide to keep and who gets pushed out.

Also, I was wrong about the attrition rate- it's not 1/3, it's actually almost 50%.

There is nothing naive about what I am saying, if urban prep was pre selecting you would have added that to your criticism, so the fact that there is no pre selection is very significant

One other thing that has to be realized is that this school is basically new, so from what I read the 50 percent figure is from the first year 2010, the more recent figures are 1/3 which again gives it a 70% dropout rate

So the bottom line is that urban prep is doing much better drawing from the same population and this is not even counting the college acceptance rate

And the fundamental issue is culture, the fact that urban prep is being publicized as getting black men into college is IMO significant in changing the overall culture and overall standards of the non urban prep community[DOUBLEPOST=1397485402][/DOUBLEPOST]

This is my problem with charter schools. Let public schools do this, I'm sure their performance rate would be through the roof

Public schools should be eliminated completely and public schools already have a high dropout rate, it doesn't help their scores

 

[Kritic]

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he said deispen

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

Public schools should be eliminated completely and public schools already have a high dropout rate, it doesn't help their scores

Charter schools was suppose to be an incubator for educational research. See what works and what doesn't, then apply it to the public school system. The problem is that the public school system is the victim of political BS where party affiliations of the mayor/school chancellor directly affect public school curriculum, resources, food, quality of teachers etc.
Then add in that it experiences yearly budget cuts

 

[Blackking]

One of the reasons they have a 100% acceptance rate for seniors is that their attrition rate is incredibly high. They lost almost 1/3 of their initial class from freshmen year to graduation, which is a massive loss. They force the lower performers out. This makes their actual graduation rate actually 6 points lower than the district average, which is not an achievement.

The other reason is that they refuse to graduate people who aren't accepted into a college, which naturally results in a perfect graduation/acceptance correlation. They can do this since they are a charter that sets their own requirements.

It's worth noting that their Chicago comp exam results are at 15%, which are far lower than the Chicago average of 23%. That means those that graduated barely made the cut, and that they struggled through HS, meaning they will almost certainly struggle through college and have a high dropout rate, which is the established patten of such students.

This is what happens when you focus on fluffing stats and leaving kids behind instead of on education.

I didn't wanna believe it.... but this old lady neighbor of mine... keeps saying this about this school and another one like it.



How is Muhammad's University in Chicago doing these days ?

 

[bigDeeOT]

dispose us to violence who knows what other genes we have, maybe a stupid gene

Because when I say we are predisposed to being violent, it means that we are more LIKELY to be violent than other races. It doesn't mean we are necessarily violent in every situation. It will be harder for blacks to achieve what whites and asians have, partly due to the fact that our genes are different from theirs. But right now blacks have not achieved their full potential so we need to work as hard as we can to get there.[DOUBLEPOST=1397524627][/DOUBLEPOST]

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negro lost a mil and a car



he said deispen

HAHAHAHA OMG how EMBARRASSING

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

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negro lost a mil and a car



he said deispen

I'm not claiming him brehs. He Indian in my book.

 

[Kritic]

i wanted to type die-spen but i just noticed i spelt it wrong

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

bu bu bu Charter schools are a bad idea! Lets just pour more and MORE money into public schools!

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Where are you getting this information?

His ass.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Charter schools was suppose to be an incubator for educational research. See what works and what doesn't, then apply it to the public school system. The problem is that the public school system is the victim of political BS where party affiliations of the mayor/school chancellor directly affect public school curriculum, resources, food, quality of teachers etc.
Then add in that it experiences yearly budget cuts

Exactly. The entire public schools system is such shyt it's not even funny. Third world countries literally educate their children far better than elementary schools in this country. A combination of politicized textbooks, lazy teachers, and oppressive unions stifiling change are all competing to the overall deterioration of schools, especially in the black community.

I applaud these educators at Urban Prep, and this is something that needs to be praised and replicated all across the nation. Scores of black men going to colleges can only bring about GREAT things for the success of the black community.