Chicago’s Urban Prep Does It Again: 100 Percent College Acceptance

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Let the record show how motherfukers who love to call me mean names in other threads couldn't stand up and defend a black man opening up a black school that sends black males to college

At the drop of dime these motherfukers will write an essay about what the white man needs to do and how the white man needs to address the issues, the notion of a black man addressing black issues never occurs to them
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The real already explained the numbers it's just that he did it in a demonic manner

About 1/3 don't make it, so that means the school has a 70% graduation rate, so in other words a school which is all black everything, all hood everything is sending students straight to college with a 70 percent success rate

Instead of trying to expand this and replicate this success some people want to shut it down


Ok cool. But here's what I'm missing. Lets say 100 9th graders enroll in 2010, by 2014 30 are not meeting standards or lost to attrition. Are those 30 students gradually replaced during the 4 year period with new enrollee's from the waiting list? If so, that's awesome, if not, I need more info.

So I get the graduation rate of 70% would represent the 100 9th graders less the 30 lost during the cycle. But what does the backfill rate look like, or does it even exist?
 
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Even if we grant the premise that this school is just way more effective than any other in the area, is there anything to suggest that it would replicable across the school district? For all we know they have tons of top teachers and that is the reason why they are more successful. That isn't any kind of educational policy for 400 000 kids.
 

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Even if we grant the premise that this school is just way more effective than any other in the area, is there anything to suggest that it would replicable across the school district? For all we know they have tons of top teachers and that is the reason why they are more successful. That isn't any kind of educational policy for 400 000 kids.

The policy is to eliminate the public schools and replace them with charter schools and vouchers
 
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I guess what I'm asking is

"Even if I support experimenting with charters, this is the single biggest reason I'm skeptical of the charter model: Some of them do very well, but if expanding the model nationwide requires an army of high-quality teachers willing to work long hours for modest pay, where are they going to come from?
 

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I guess what I'm asking is

"Even if I support experimenting with charters, this is the single biggest reason I'm skeptical of the charter model: Some of them do very well, but if expanding the model nationwide requires an army of high-quality teachers willing to work long hours for modest pay, where are they going to come from?

that isnt the theory behind charters and vouchers, the theory is that individual schools and individual people will figure things out when they are freed from the bureaucracy of the public school system
 

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As someone who works in this field, a 70% college acceptance rate is still well above the national average, especially for low income students of color.

however, in high school (especially charter high schools) there is much more administrative control over test scores, class grades, and other data points. the REAL test will be how these students do in college when all those support systems have been removed and they have to demonstrate what they've learned.

no shade though.
 

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As someone who works in this field, a 70% college acceptance rate is still well above the national average, especially for low income students of color.

however, in high school (especially charter high schools) there is much more administrative control over test scores, class grades, and other data points. the REAL test will be how these students do in college when all those support systems have been removed and they have to demonstrate what they've learned.

no shade though.

I think you mean dropout rate, the college acceptance rate is 100%
 

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"If they were all charters, either the charters would start performing like the public schools, if forced to keep the low performers, or the kids would have nowhere to go."

:ohhh: This seems to be the crux of the debate here...
 

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Great news, especially when you hear a lot of the negative news about what comes out of Chicago.

Although I would like to see more of our own donate to charter schools like these, which support OUR youth. Instead of giving millions to a college like USC who already has millions upon millions. :dry:

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"If they were all charters, either the charters would start performing like the public schools, if forced to keep the low performers, or the kids would have nowhere to go."

:ohhh: This seems to be the crux of the debate here...


the basis of that 'crux' is a lack of self confidence as has been displayed throughout this thread at the incredulity of people to believe that that a black man is having success with an all black everything system

but either way the answer is the same as the other question, the solution comes from the creativity and ingenuity of the local community and local teachers freed from the public school bureaucracy
 
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Its seem as though those students at the bottom(under performing) are being used to weigh down those students at the top... :patrice:
in pursuit of fairness...
 
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