Chief Keef: "I grew up on G-Unit, Beanie, Freeway, Wayne, Dip Set, I only know 1 Pac and Big song"

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If Fetty said he can't name Nas or Jay songs he's lying straight up it's not possible. He's not THAT young to be able to make a statement like that dude is 25...

Meaning he was damn near a teenager when The Blueprint dropped...

So how the fukk is it possible as a living human, hip hop fan in an urban community on the East Coast, conscious in the early 00's for you to not be able to name Jay or Nas songs?

Fetty claims to be this huge Gucci fan, I can't speak for Paterson but its pretty close to NYC. Gucci has never been huge in NYC, nikkas don't fiend for Gucci tapes in NYC.
 

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fukk his honesty,this is just the new thing to do to seem rebellious.

not bad choices though,but unless he was asked i hate when people make random announcements about who they AINT listening too:stopitslime:
 

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All them chi rap nikkas were birthed by pac :bryan: n nikkas telling us they only heard 1 pac joint in they life :krs: Keefes music is decent but he comes across dumb or brain dead sometimes :dead: he needs to lay off the lean :steviej:
 
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makes sense. shyt i'm 30 and missed big & pac's run by a year...i guess i got into music like right after big died in 97.
Go pick up a few cds catch up on the years you missed dont come in and say i only dig 1 pac or big song either :heh: :win:
 

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If Fetty said that he's 100% trolling


Getty is a hop skip and jump away from the mecca.
Chief keef is from Inglewood, totally different.
There was never a cultural permeation for hiphop in his area.
He would never in general be exposed to what the culture was in general by someone.
Y'all think the culture permeates that deep.
I been told y'all this culture is another higher prescient consciousness.
Most people have no concern for culture let alone actual hiphop culture.
Being a bboy is real cultural shyt.
not just rapping or being a fan of commercial rap.


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The funny thing is as a Cali nikka I cant name one Beanie or Freeway song I would obviously be able to recognize their hit songs if I heard them but I cant tell you the song titles off the top of my head. I can name like 2 Dispset songs and once again im sure I can say "hey ive heard that song before" but them nikkas wouldn't be able to sell out a show here in Cali if they did a reunion tour yet they still play Tupac songs damn near daily on the radio out here.
 

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Chicago rap scene is werid to be honest.

Like I never see the upcoming rappers give credit to twista, do or die, common, and hell even kanye.


That rap scene is really not apart of hiphop.
They were never at any cultural anything, ever.
Twista selling out is how that brand got credence but nikkaz will act like Twista did not sellout and it did not happen.
Yet they have no facts and real live accounts of what the truth js.
All cause twista is their gateway but let someone ask about chi rock or illstate assassins. They have no clue how or what it intertwines with.
Yet since hiphop is a forgiving culture we have to take the brunt of what they do.
Completely outside the culture and be responsible for them.
It is what it is,....
Y'all as fans give people power to steal our culture and this is a byproduct of it.
It is just like white America feeling comfortable mistreating Indians and slaves. Y'all look the other way like white people in public oppressing Indian and slaves.
When shyt was real no sellout rappers or rappers who lack culture got to infringe and false represent the culture of hiphop.
If they were a culture thief based gangsta rapper.
they were disenfranchised for being culture thieves and they belly ached about and had Mecca envy. While never once respecting the culture of hiphop and its mores and norms.
That are in place from a prescient place and also experience in an economic place for out pillars to still operate and generate a profit.
Casuals have always allowed the culture of hiphop to be compromised and poisoned band systematically phased out.
All because they buy into big corporate white suit ideals of.
we can disrespect your culture for the power of a dollar.
That they empower disenfranchised culture thievery and theft to occur with no repercussions economically in our industries from the pillars.
It just so happens when corporations after sprite and coca cola. got fraud marketing groups with no cultural figure to represent them.
Thing went awry and the culture of hiphop.
now known to the masses has to take the brunt of that.
Also since Twista suffered administration based issues from selling out and Wendy day had to work to get him out of it. That is seen as his pass.
Yet if he never sold out, and bit snypaz.
Plus turned his back on the culture to look like a Westside pimp.
Most of a lot of the shyt would not be going on today.
Especially as far as chief keef is concerned because there would have been no regular world wannabe rappers in bulk.
Especially in Chicago as no non-bboy guys really rapped at all.
If they did they were ridiculed by their non-culturized peers in the street and culturally by people in hip hop.
When twista blew he made every Westside nikka.
think they could rap and they never rapped before ever, and never cared about hip hop or any of that. Which trickled down to
Everyone in the city and Gary who did not know the culture.
So, now you got a large influx of toys rapping and doing it with no cultural context or even skill.
Just biting and filling in the words of bone to now twista and do or die to crucial.
In which all three got jerked admin wise.
All because they would shun the culture and the culture is about being educated administratively about these art houses. Which twista is supposed to know fully about.
all because he is one of the few real Westside bboys originally and was an illstate assassin and fixture at chi Rock meetings.
So the reason why Twista is not generally propped is.
Twista he also fell out with his street based orgs who rode with him through his admin based woes.
Including everyone in a non-cultural context.
thinks they want to be and replace Twista as well.
When it comes to ye,...ye been known as a sellout to jiggy bullshyt for two decade now exactly. With common he been got serged and eventually faked jax till now the public knows. So common,uses pr and female sentimental based nostalgia draws to compensate for the culture knowing he is a culture theif.

Plus, if you are a apart of the Chicago scene you know who the real protege and real legend is anyway.

So, if you in the culture of hiphop.
You not gon prop the guys who sold out.
You prop'n who kept it all the way real and ye, twists or common.
It is the pedigree from where I originate.
Which purposefully was kept from being put on in the same manner.
Plus would not adhere to pisspoor administration or sellout.
In Chicago in general most have no idea about the culture and real talk.
If not for, interscope having an a&r with relatives to put certain people on.
You would never have gotten this non-culture based wave of gangsta rap. That was aided by an exec with connection to common in a bidding war. That created the pr bubble and windfall.
That setup the last prospective possible plat drawing artist or era in Chicago.
Yet pisspoor administration ruined it again.
Which would never happen for real culturally minded artists.



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The funny thing is as a Cali nikka I cant name one Beanie or Freeway song I would obviously be able to recognize their hit songs if I heard them but I cant tell you the song titles off the top of my head. I can name like 2 Dispset songs and once again im sure I can say "hey ive heard that song before" but them nikkas wouldn't be able to sell out a show here in Cali if they did a reunion tour yet they still play Tupac songs damn near daily on the radio out here.


In the time frame or time line you speak on.
Cali was still reeling from the destruction of the draw for west coast gangsta rap music not fitting into the pr culture based sellout routine from the jiggy era and also issues with mecca envy.
So of course you never and people in general in Cali never really in general.
bumped artist outside a general west coast aesthetic.
I would not expect it to happen because hiphop is a non-violent culture that reduced gangs.
So hiphop culturally is juxtaposed from what the basic scope of Cali is about..just like Chicago non culturally connected artist permeate in general and have small niche draws to even kanye.
As gangsta based areas will always feel disenfranchised in hip hop because hiphop reduced gangs.
You not supposed to be bringing gang shyt really into rap off top anyway. Yet, since it is here hiphop is forgiving and deals with it.

When another culture would have said fukk y'all all together.
Yet culturally casual don't see this and still diss hiphop as a culture. Which is type bogus cause we culturally accept y'all coming to our table to do whatever.
yet, casuals and business disrespect our table and entire camp grounds tho, all day with no stop.



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Nothing wrong with it. It kills me how people just discredit people's opinions because they don't list big pac nas jay as there inspirations. Generation of today grew up on Wayne/Dipset/State Prop/G-Unit.

Hell i personally know more Beanie/Freeway songs then i do Pac/Big songs(Could be philly bias) And im 27,
 

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My oldest is 8 she don't know who no rappers is besides Silento because he in Disney cac video they play on Disney .


There is no real cultural gateway for hiphop like when I as as kid watching PBS.
After electric company they showed the documentary on hiphop.
From which I witnessed and idolized crazy legs.
Watching crazy legs breaking for the first time to get inspired to learn to break and also learn about hip hop.
Plus, before that the PBS special on gangs was on and shows the evolution of ny and how hiphop dissolved gang activity later on in the PBS hiphop special.
So, back then you got the gateways to teach you about the culture.
Based on American studies to capitalize on the institutionalized poverty.
that eventually America used the applied knowledge from that discovery zone on us.

To make it worse in the early months of 2001 to segue way to the great recession.

Plus, currently PBS being out of touch and not having resources to get over the cgi hump aesthetic of this Gen.
That Disney and the bicepless mouse has over this Gen from Pixar and industrial light and magic. So, Disney and others with those resources are not about to let an outlet like PBS school kids.
To take them away from Disney's gay androngynous princess gateway aesthetic.


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Kids are no longer educated the same way we were.
Even historically they don't even show history of cartoons in the same manner we learned about just cartoons.
Which is why back in the day, hiphop used its plethora of deep cartoon soundtrack and score base to connect.
Ala Wu tang ain't nuffin to fukk with being underdog.
While now, kids influenced make Timmy turner based records to show the same connection to music. Or gain a gateway from silento now.
Or, like the past Gen gained a gateway from possibly seeing hiphopharry and gay ass DJ lance as an alternative.
Things
are similar, but it is just the parallels of content they are derived from is smaller.
Plus the culture was removed from relevancy limiting its ability to be able to guide more.


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If Fetty said he can't name Nas or Jay songs he's lying straight up it's not possible. He's not THAT young to be able to make a statement like that dude is 25...

Meaning he was damn near a teenager when The Blueprint dropped...

So how the fukk is it possible as a living human, hip hop fan in an urban community on the East Coast, conscious in the early 00's for you to not be able to name Jay or Nas songs?

Fetty claims to be this huge Gucci fan, I can't speak for Paterson but its pretty close to NYC. Gucci has never been huge in NYC, nikkas don't fiend for Gucci tapes in NYC.


Not true,...
Gucci used east coast pr and liasons.
to exclusively blow after fat cat admin issues and blow from the wilt chamberlain, no pad no pencil era.

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Chicago rap scene is werid to be honest.

Like I never see the upcoming rappers give credit to twista, do or die, common, and hell even kanye.
Youre right but they probly never listend to that stuff.They might shout out bump j but that's it. Tbh most chi nikkas use to listen to whoever was hot on the radio:yeshrug: and juke trax (house music). The grassroots rap scene use to be dry af in the 00 until like maybe 08/09

Plus keef & other drill rappers got attention making music aimed at dissing rivals and not from a genuine artistic angle if ya get what I'm saying.

The only drill rappers that might give a shout out to some OGs rappers are herb and bibby but they never shied away from being "rappers"unlike most drill rapper that stress being a "street nikka" before anything

Plus herb is unique bc he comes from a real hip hop background via his uncle.(he use to rock w/ the Ill state assassins @Art Barr probably heard of them)

Edit: I'm not surprised at all that he mentioned dipset.:russ: They used to be huge in chicago back then. Iirc cam stayed on the west side for a lil minute
 
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