How do you feel about rap right now?
It’s more exciting then it’s ever been. I always hear the critique that it’s become so dumbed down and stripped of any kind of meaning. But I like this stuff best. I never liked socially conscious rap. I like rap that's physical, that's about a beat and bass and repetition. I feel like rap's still the only genre that’s mutating. Like Chief Keef and Young Chop and Fredo Santana. What they're doing with drill music is great. It's almost like super primitive chanting. When I first heard it, I thought it was such a perfect music, so distilled and fukking bass heavy. It's pure emotion.
Given the conversation around drill, don't you feel it's problematic to use a word like "primitive"?
Primitive meaning stripped down. Primitive in the way that you can take a single sentence and repeat it over and over again for three minutes and have it become something magic and violent. There's no pretense. It's incredible.
The conversation around Keef's music has been so polarized. And much of it has been about who's allowed to speak. Whether white people liking the music is problematic. Is that a conversation that interests you?
I mean, white people always ruin everything. I don't pay attention to that shyt. White people eventually ruin everything.
