Chiefs All Pro QB Patrick Mahomes suffered a torn ACL.

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Mahomes is great but he started his career with arguably the best TE and WR in the league it made life pretty easy. Those guys were cheat codes

He won two rings without Tyreek Hill.

His WR's were Skyy Moore, Toney, Juju, MVS, Justin Watson, etc. No one close to being a pro bowler.

Kelce has been the only consistent weapon.

Meanwhile Goff has Amon Ra, Williams, La Porta, Gibbs, and Montgomery.

Burrow has Chase and Higgins.

I could go on. Several QB's have better weapons with nothing to show for it.

Mahomes doesn't need a lot at the skill positions to win. A great O line would be more valuable.

He’s now going through what other great QB’s have faced who make a lot of money in a hardcap sport where you have to plug holes all over as a great Qb

You think that hasn't been the case? He signed his deal 5 seasons ago.
 

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He won two rings without Tyreek Hill.

His WR's were Skyy Moore, Toney, Juju, MVS, Justin Watson, etc. No one close to being a pro bowler.

Kelce has been the only consistent weapon.

Meanwhile Goff has Amon Ra, Williams, La Porta, Gibbs, and Montgomery.

Burrow has Chase and Higgins.

I could go on. Several QB's have better weapons with nothing to show for it.

Mahomes doesn't need a lot at the skill positions to win. A great O line would be more valuable.



You think that hasn't been the case? He signed his deal 5 seasons ago.

I didn’t say he couldn’t win I’m simply saying why he’s looked mortal the past few years
 

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He won two rings without Tyreek Hill.

His WR's were Skyy Moore, Toney, Juju, MVS, Justin Watson, etc. No one close to being a pro bowler.

Kelce has been the only consistent weapon.

Meanwhile Goff has Amon Ra, Williams, La Porta, Gibbs, and Montgomery.

Burrow has Chase and Higgins.

I could go on. Several QB's have better weapons with nothing to show for it.

Mahomes doesn't need a lot at the skill positions to win. A great O line would be more valuable.



You think that hasn't been the case? He signed his deal 5 seasons ago.
Add in that while lacking weapons he also had a super suspect O-line (especially at LT). It's honestly insane what he accomplished just keeping that offense above average.
 

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I didn’t say he couldn’t win I’m simply saying why he’s looked mortal the past few years
He's looked mortal because the offense has been "Hey Pat...do something" for 3 years. That doesnt work on the NFL level, yet somehow him and the defense carried them to 2 SBs and 1 chip. Its really a testament to him that they didnt fall off a cliff sooner. He has looked like himself when it doesnt look like offensive players and coaches were point shaving :mjlol:.
 

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He's looked mortal because the offense has been "Hey Pat...do something" for 3 years. That doesnt work on the NFL level, yet somehow him and the defense carried them to 2 SBs and 1 chip. Its really a testament to him that they didnt fall off a cliff sooner. He has looked like himself when it doesnt look like offensive players and coaches were point shaving :mjlol:.

Agreed my point is most QB’s have the same issues once they start making big money

Allen is throwing to nobody right now he’s all the Bills have as well except their defense isn’t good either
 

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Agreed my point is most QB’s have the same issues once they start making big money

Allen is throwing to nobody right now he’s all the Bills have as well except their defense isn’t good either
You acting like James Cook ain't a beast in his own right. And Kincaid/Knox is a damn good tight end room plus they have a good O-Line. They're just missing WRs.
 

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Agreed my point is most QB’s have the same issues once they start making big money

Allen is throwing to nobody right now he’s all the Bills have as well except their defense isn’t good either
All QBs make big money. Burrow aint going through this. Dak is highest paid ever I believe, he aint goin through this. Goff...Stafford...Hurts. The cap isnt real. Did you see the all star team they had around Stafford a couple years ago? Just kept adding nikkas.

And as I said before, it aint as much about money as it is the kind of players you are targeting. You need physical WR and RB (that arent flabby) especially in January.
 

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Dylan Raiola somewhere smiling like look at god, Mahomes got injured just like me #Twinsies


 

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All QBs make big money. Burrow aint going through this. Dak is highest paid ever I believe, he aint goin through this. Goff...Stafford...Hurts. The cap isnt real. Did you see the all star team they had around Stafford a couple years ago? Just kept adding nikkas.

And as I said before, it aint as much about money as it is the kind of players you are targeting. You need physical WR and RB (that arent flabby) especially in January.

The Bengals also have an historically bad defense

With a hardcap nobody has a perfect team. Look at the league now. Who is even really good aside
from the Rams?
 

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The Bengals also have an historically bad defense

With a hardcap nobody has a perfect team. Look at the league now. Who is even really good aside
from the Rams?
We talking bout offense though.
 

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They thought that they did address the weapons..Rice(who is good), Worthy.and Brown were supposed to be a great trio. Rice is good, Brown is iffy and the verdict is still out on Xavier
Their WRs are fine to me.. Rashee Rice gettin better and Hollywood and Xavier are good receivers

Chiefs need a RUNNING BACK in the WORST way

Jeremiyah Love would be :ohlawd: there
 
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