China and many other countries side with Black America

[42 Monks]

So Front National is the far right party here yeah. But their program is focused on nationalist, anti-immigration (not "black people"), anti-Euro, anti-culture and anti-islam policies. Front National won the European Elections this year mostly because people here don't give a shyt about those and never vote there (so mechanically, those who would have voted for the right or for the left didn't while far-right voters who are kinda disciplined did) but still, you're right about them progressively getting more and more votes as time goes by. It's undeniable since 2002 and JM Le Pen defeating Jospin at the Presidentials and above all since Marine Le Pen (the daughter) is the head of the party and tries to get the FN a friendlier image though her father keeps fukkin that up

But what general upswing of targeting brown people are you talking about ? What attacks ?
Are you sure you're talking about France ?

And for simple reminder, a post of mine regarding "black people" in France : http://www.thecoli.com/posts/4960108/


Get me that quote
There is obviously racism in France as there is everywhere but I never said black people were mistreated. So get me that quote please.

Anti-immigration is almost always focused on people who don't look like the perceived majority in power. And the attacks = basically the extremist stuff that's been popping up here and there. Its nowhere near the stop and frisk of the good ole NYPD, but its enough to get noticed. When I was in France, I didn't have to deal with that - I simply had people sizing me up on the "Are you sure you can afford this? " tip everywhere I went. And then the occasional blatant stuff I came across that's no different the US. But that was about 6 years ago. Still, French National may as well be their version of the Tea Party except easier to sell to the majority of voters out there. I'm not a fan of that kind climate change.

I'm hardly advocating the US as some pinnacle of understanding and multiracial bonding. I'm getting out of here once I finish my degree. Just saying that China and France seem kinda

 

[I.AM.PIFF]

He's father is German and mother is Gambian you could have googled that, he was born in Germany

African's who've never been to France have french surnames, english names, just like african who aren't from spain have spanish names

I know breh, that's why I had the smiley.

I'm African breh, I know about Africa's colonial past.

Germany does have some colonial past in Africa, but far from the impact the French, English or Portuguese made. Just like Italy was in Libya and Ethiopia but you don't really see them having Italian surnames.

 

[mtu wa chuma]

They're siding with us for their own agenda to shyt on the US lol. Don't be mistaken.

Like someone else said in this thread, it doesn't matter what their motives are as long as we use it to our advantage. That's all that matters.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

Like what?

African Culture and Asian culture are more similar than American culture and Asian culture. Furthermore, China's relationship with America can hardly be classified as "friendly". The business relationship is complex but China has never followed the US lead. The Chinese don't feel as if they have to appease Americans and are very independent, which is troubling to the US. For instance, Iran is considered a major US threat and the US has imposed harsh sanctions on them, but China never followed suit. They still carry on how they please.

China has also been working hard developing business and infrastructure in Africa and fostering friendly relationships. The Chinese are actually more friendly with African countries than they are with the United States.

This is actually very accurate. I'm impressed.

 

[Soundbwoy]

I was thinking about it(Quebec) but I ain't tryna catch no cancer working in em oil fields

if you ain't speaking French you'll experience another type of discrimination

 

[Liu Kang]

Anti-immigration is almost always focused on people who don't look like the perceived majority in power.[...]

For your info, Romani people are the ones who suffer the most from anti-immigration ideas in France and in Europe. Obviously, France as Europe is mostly white and therefore minorities (with different complexions) are more exposed but you're mistaken if you think that we equate immigration with black or brown. And really, these days, people in France are more anti-muslim than anything else as that religion threaten the very christian identity of the country.

About immigration, in the beginning of the century, French "hated" Italian, Polish or Spanish people because they were the ones who were migrants and threatened them by taking their jobs. Then after WWII, it was Maghrebi, Portuguese and Black Africans for the same reason. Then in the the 90s, it was the east-Europeans because of EU's growth. Today some feel some type of way about Immigrants who are mostly from Africa or the Middle-East still for the same reason ("they come here to take our jobs") but it's more about the immigration than the complexion because France has always been reluctant to outsiders (which is a sentiment shared by every country imo). Obviously, some will mix their racist views with anti-immigration ideas to make their racism more acceptable but still the feeling is about migrants for most.

[...]And the attacks = basically the extremist stuff that's been popping up here and there. Its nowhere near the stop and frisk of the good ole NYPD, but its enough to get noticed[...]

Here and there ? Could you be more accurate ? I don't have any recent memory of a racist attack "here and there". Lastly, France has known clashes between Palestine/Israel supporters, that's what you're talking about ? Or was it the anti-gay marriage rallies ? Once again, I don't deny that there is racism (obviously) but you seem to think there is some kind of anti-black people climate here which is wrong.

Or maybe were you talking about racist slurs towards our Miss France or our Ministress of Justice ? Because it was like epiphenomenons by a very few brain-dead far-right militants which is unavoidable unfortunately

[...]When I was in France, I didn't have to deal with that - I simply had people sizing me up on the "Are you sure you can afford this? " tip everywhere I went. And then the occasional blatant stuff I came across that's no different the US. But that was about 6 years ago. Still, French National may as well be their version of the Tea Party except easier to sell to the majority of voters out there. I'm not a fan of that kind climate change.[...]

Are you talking about the Front National party (FN) ? In that case, it exists since the early 70s, so it's like 40 years old (way before the Tea Party) and was way more racist/nazi back then because Le Pen was an-ex military which tortured (and more surely) during the Algeria war as he was a supporter of the "French Algeria" movement and fighting against Algerian independence. So if anything FN is "softer" than what it was a few decades ago when JM Le Pen was the head of it. There are still some reminiscences of that but it's really been diluted these days and most of the hard far-right fukks quit or are in groups not necessarily affiliated with FN.

I'm hardly advocating the US as some pinnacle of understanding and multiracial bonding. I'm getting out of here once I finish my degree. Just saying that China and France seem kinda

Well you shouldn't think that way about France IMO. I don't know what happened during your stay but your views appears to be skewed. Again, not saying black people live a fairy tale here but I'm definitely not scared of getting clapped by the Police because of my complexion.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

So Front National is the far right party here yeah. But their program is focused on nationalist, anti-immigration (not "black people"), anti-Euro, anti-culture and anti-islam policies. Front National won the European Elections this year mostly because people here don't give a shyt about those and never vote there (so mechanically, those who would have voted for the right or for the left didn't while far-right voters who are kinda disciplined did) but still, you're right about them progressively getting more and more votes as time goes by. It's undeniable since 2002 and JM Le Pen defeating Jospin at the Presidentials and above all since Marine Le Pen (the daughter) is the head of the party and tries to get the FN a friendlier image though her father keeps fukkin that up

But what general upswing of targeting brown people are you talking about ? What attacks ?
Are you sure you're talking about France ?

And for simple reminder, a post of mine regarding "black people" in France : http://www.thecoli.com/posts/4960108/


Get me that quote
There is obviously racism in France as there is everywhere but I never said black people were mistreated. So get me that quote please.

so racism is not mistreatment


i fukking swear mane

i hate u dudes



mafukkas wanna shyt on America so bad

i hope all these dudes go join u in France

where racism is considered good treatment

 

[Xtraz2]

And Nazi soldiers spoke about Jim Crow during the Nuremberg Trials. It's political posturing in international courts. They treat blacks terrible in their own countries.

it's sad that at current time, over 50 c00ns dapped your post

political posturing or not, you can't deny them countries are saying some REAL shyt about Americas treatment of blacks

 

[Liu Kang]

so racism is not mistreatment


i fukking swear mane

i hate u dudes



mafukkas wanna shyt on America so bad

i hope all these dudes go join u in France

where racism is considered good treatment

So every type of discrimination is a mistreatment then ? By your logic, that simply means that everybody is mistreated everywhere somehow then. Whether it is because of their complexion, their size, their weight, their gender, their sexuality... I don't consider racism as a mistreatment but as a discrimination.

And where did I shyt on the USA ? I only talked about France.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

So every type of discrimination is a mistreatment then ? By your logic, that simply means that everybody is mistreated everywhere somehow then. Whether it is because of their complexion, their size, their weight, their gender, their sexuality... I don't consider racism as a mistreatment but as a discrimination.

And where did I shyt on the USA ? I only talked about France.

umm yes

and earlier you said racism

i swear you just post to fukking post

you stay flip flopping

i remember a post u made about a group of white dudes in France jumping a black dude there

but u acting like
France is the Black love capitol of the world

 

[Liu Kang]

umm yes

and earlier you said racism

i swear you just post to fukking post

you stay flip flopping[...]

I never flip flop. Please, re-read my posts so you can understand them better if necessary.

You quoted me stating that I said black people were mistreated in France. As I don't consider racism as a "mistreatment" (translated into "maltraitance" in french which a way heavier word and doesn't apply to discrimination) I denied it by explaining my position. Why ? Because "maltraitance" means physical abuse (to stay short because it can also embody repeated psychological abuse) which racism isn't.
If discrimination (which is not necessarily about one's complexion but also gender, weight, or anything else) is a mistreatment therefore everybody is somehow mistreated at least once in his life. If it goes well by your semantics, good for you, but that's not mine therefore I don't consider black people mistreated in France.

That there has been racist attacks on black people in France is undeniable (and I never said otherwise). But there has also been attacks on jews for being jews, muslims for being muslims, gays for being gays, fat people for being fat, handicapped people for being handicapped, homeless people for being homeless, women for being women etc. That doesn't mean that there is a systematic "mistreatment" (by your definition) policy towards those types of people. Idiots and bigots exist everywhere.

And once again, if you read my posts I never denied that racism existed in France.

[...]i remember a post u made about a group of white dudes in France jumping a black dude there[...]

For the second time, get me that quote. You may have me mistaken.

[...]but u acting like
France is the Black love capitol of the world

Never said, never saying, will never say that. Re read my posts.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

I never flip flop. Please, re-read my posts so you can understand them better if necessary.

You quoted me stating that I said black people were mistreated in France. As I don't consider racism as a "mistreatment" (translated into "maltraitance" in french which a way heavier word and doesn't apply to discrimination) I denied it by explaining my position. Why ? Because "maltraitance" means physical abuse (to stay short because it can also embody repeated psychological abuse) which racism isn't.
If discrimination (which is not necessarily about one's complexion but also gender, weight, or anything else) is a mistreatment therefore everybody is somehow mistreated at least once in his life. If it goes well by your semantics, good for you, but that's not mine therefore I don't consider black people mistreated in France.

That there has been racist attacks on black people in France is undeniable (and I never said otherwise). But there has also been attacks on jews for being jews, muslims for being muslims, gays for being gays, fat people for being fat, handicapped people for being handicapped, homeless people for being homeless, women for being women etc. That doesn't mean that there is a systematic "mistreatment" (by your definition) policy towards those types of people. Idiots and bigots exist everywhere.

And once again, if you read my posts I never denied that racism existed in France.




For the second time, get me that quote. You may have me mistaken.


Never said, never saying, will never say that. Re read my posts.

my nikka
you are the one who quoted me in the 1st fukking place

and yes
i have seen you post about mistreatment towards blacks in france

no, i dont have transcripts of nikkas' post on here
so no i cant post quotes


i also know what is reported in the news about the subject so you being ONE person giving their view(although it counters what u stated in the past) means shyt



but fukk it
my nikka
France is the new Africa


happy?

 

[Liu Kang]

my nikka
you are the one who quoted me in the 1st fukking place

and yes
i have seen you post about mistreatment towards blacks in france

no, i dont have transcripts of nikkas' post on here
so no i cant post quotes


i also know what is reported in the news about the subject so you being ONE person giving their view(although it counters what u stated in the past) means shyt



but fukk it
my nikka
France is the new Africa


happy?

Man, black holes ain't that dense...

First, I never witnessed any mob or group of white people attacking black people so I could have never post about that. On the opposite I did witness groups of black people attacking white people and I posted about it here so that may be the post you're referring to.

Second, I quoted you first, so ? I never said you did. What I was explaining is that when you quoted me you said something I supposedly said which was wrong.

Third, news from the US ? About France ? You're american and you really think that you know the country where I was born, where I live and on which I read every day better than me ?

Finally, where did I contradict myself ? Once again and for all, I don't consider racism as "mistreatment" because we don't have the same definition of "mistreatment" (bold and in red so you can read it right) and I never used that word to talk about black people in France whether used as a noun or as a verb.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

Second, I quoted you first, so ? I never said you did. What I was explaining is that when you quoted me you said something I supposedly said which was wrong.

.

as far as the rest of that nonsense


racism not being mistreatment

post shyt and then say you dont remember


gwan and post another paragraph

 

[godkiller]

Like what?

African Culture and Asian culture are more similar than American culture and Asian culture. Furthermore, China's relationship with America can hardly be classified as "friendly". The business relationship is complex but China has never followed the US lead. The Chinese don't feel as if they have to appease Americans and are very independent, which is troubling to the US. For instance, Iran is considered a major US threat and the US has imposed harsh sanctions on them, but China never followed suit. They still carry on how they please.

China has also been working hard developing business and infrastructure in Africa and fostering friendly relationships. The Chinese are actually more friendly with African countries than they are with the United States.

Chinese and African culture do not have much in similar at all. On what basis do you make this absurd statement? Just because China invests in Africa doesn't mean Chinese people and blacks are similar. The Africans like Asian support because the Asians aren't former colonialists and offer straight cash. On the other hand, the Europeans are imperialists and colonialists who fukk around. That's the reason Africans prefer to do business with Asians. China's doing business in Africa has nothing to do with cultural similarity.

One could argue African culture and black disapora culture--including African American--are more related than any other because the slaves came from Africa and brought their culture with them. Many Carribean dishes are actually derivatives of African foods. In my country, the "yam" and "cavasava" vegetable is a popular food. And so it goes in parts of Africa too. The music too is sort of derivative.