Chinese Dissidents Back Trump’s Claims of Election Fraud.

[Professor Emeritus]

i was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt with the racist reaction to nba players not jumping to defend morey, but it looks like i can stop giving a fukk about hong kong then. absorb them into mainland china post-haste: one country, one system.

You're mixing up two issues.

These guys are Chinese reformers. Hong Kong activists largely don't even see themselves as Chinese, they see themselves as Hong Kong. At a brief glance I didn't see anyone mentioned in this thread who is a big Hong Kong activist.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I think there are numerous things going on here and most of them have analogies in the USA.

#1. Some (certainly not all) people who are primarily familiar with one culture make naïve mistakes when evaluating systems in another culture. They just don't know enough, or blind themselves to obvious issues. My mind goes back to various American liberals who supported the USSR back in their heyday. They saw the USSR as they wanted to see them, not as who they really were.

#2. Perhaps the biggest one, a lot of folk are all about "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Just look at Modi. American Evangelicals HATED that man as recently as 10 years ago. His party openly hates on Christians and is the face of anti-Christian persecution in India. But as hating Muslims became more and more important to the Republican party, the right chose to overlook Modi's deficiencies because the shared hatred of Muslims was more important than anything else.

#3. Falun Gong is a conspiracy-filled, mind-bogglingly irrational cult. Being shocked that their political choices aren't principled is like being shocked that "moral" White Evangelicals supported an immoral man like Trump.

 

[Kenny West]

i was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt with the racist reaction to nba players not jumping to defend morey, but it looks like i can stop giving a fukk about hong kong then. absorb them into mainland china post-haste: one country, one system.

fukk em

Free tibet and taiwan tho

 

[hashmander]

You're mixing up two issues.

These guys are Chinese reformers. Hong Kong activists largely don't even see themselves as Chinese, they see themselves as Hong Kong. At a brief glance I didn't see anyone mentioned in this thread who is a big Hong Kong activist.

i very well may be, but i've seen way too many epoch times ads in the past about how their hong kong offices are being attacked by the CCP and they are standing up for democracy blah blah. and epoch is falun gong.

and even if the two are separated (as they should), hong kong protesters showed their ass all on their own before.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

i very well may be, but i've seen way too many epoch times ads in the past about how their hong kong offices are being attacked by the CCP and they are standing up for democracy blah blah. and epoch is falun gong.

and even if the two are separated (as they should), hong kong protesters showed their ass all on their own before.

Falun Gong is all over China and is attacked wherever they are, the fact that they have offices in Hong Kong doesn't make them synonymous with the mainstream Hong Kong resistance with whom they have little in common.