Gil Scott-Heroin
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Example 77943469057 that @Rhakim doesn't actually watch games, but looks at box score stats and creates a story from them that matches his confirmation bias.
Chris Paul is just ….
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Gil Scott-Heroin
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No on that watched the finals (or even the playoffs) comes away with thinking he played well, a lot of his points came when up double digits which of course is an easier time to score especially after Booker usually did most of the work to get them up that much (I mean, wow, he becomes much more efficient and aggressive up 15+, that's like nearly 15% of points this PS and that's not including the obvious statpadding he's often done at end of games), and his size gets abused on defense when teams decide to exploit it
Even today it's still a wings/bigs league, he's too small and too reliant on needing ball in hand to really be that guy
Even today it's still a wings/bigs league, he's too small and too reliant on needing ball in hand to really be that guy
Gil Scott-Heroin
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It's funny how you can easily spot someone who cites box score stats that didn't watch the game. No regards to context or nuance: just throwing out surface numbers and making generic statements that make it seem like you know what you're talking about. No breakdown of actually what happened during the games where CP3 wasn't aggressive during pivotal moments, choosing to dominate the ball and taking safe shots when the game wasn't in the balance, but then standing in the corner and not demanding the ball in the 4th quarter barely even attempting a shot when his team needs him to be aggressive.
And the moment the game is essentially over, with seconds remaining, he shamelessly pads his stats by getting open layups; points and efficiency that are used in a narrative to suggest he played well.
CP3 has made a career out of this. Doing all his work in low-stakes moments to make it appear as if he played well if you look at his box score stats.
And the moment the game is essentially over, with seconds remaining, he shamelessly pads his stats by getting open layups; points and efficiency that are used in a narrative to suggest he played well.
CP3 has made a career out of this. Doing all his work in low-stakes moments to make it appear as if he played well if you look at his box score stats.
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My opinion about Chris Paul been the same for years, winning a ring or not this year wouldn’t change that
But to address your post, I would always wonder why are the coaches and cp3 always seemingly giving a pep talk Ayton.
I see why now. He has no dog in him or it comes and goes at the most inopportune times.
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Gil Scott-Heroin
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The truth is Chris Paul has always been an amazing player until it’s the playoffs and it’s crunch time in a pivotal game. Then he’s either running away from the ball or turning it over at the worst possible moments. This year I thought maybe it would be different but he didn’t really do much after he came back from covid…and it wasn’t because of covid.
Marc Spector
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Yall keep saying that Paul shrinks in small moments and he had one of the best elimination game performances this year against the clippers 
Ill concede that game 4 was a bad performance from him. But ultimately the Suns couldnt match a battle hardened Bucks team that had size and defensive intensity to slow down any offense they came up against. You can call him a choker but Chris Paul at 36 playing the longest post seaspm of his life isnt gonna give you transcendent, elite scoring an entire Playoffs much less a Finals series.
Objectively Paul and Lebron both are savants at facilitating offense but that bias for passing is their downfall as they cant flip the aggressive scorer switch as easy as other players.
Ill concede that game 4 was a bad performance from him. But ultimately the Suns couldnt match a battle hardened Bucks team that had size and defensive intensity to slow down any offense they came up against. You can call him a choker but Chris Paul at 36 playing the longest post seaspm of his life isnt gonna give you transcendent, elite scoring an entire Playoffs much less a Finals series.
Objectively Paul and Lebron both are savants at facilitating offense but that bias for passing is their downfall as they cant flip the aggressive scorer switch as easy as other players.
They want to pretend like 41-4-8 in an elimination game against the Clippers never happened.Yall keep saying that Paul shrinks in small moments and he had one of the best elimination game performances this year against the clippers
And against the Nuggets too. Denver cut that lead to 6 with five minutes left in the elimination game and then CP3 scored 11 points in the last 5 minutes to put the game away and give him 37-3-7 for the game.
2018 in the elimination game against the Jazz he had 20 in the 4th to turn a 3-point deficit into a 10-point win. 41-7-10 for the game.
Then in the back-to-back WCF wins against the Warriors in Game 4 and Game 5 he had 8 and 7 in the 4th during brutal defensive battles.
2015 in Game 7 against the Spurs he was limping with an injured hammy and still put up 9 in the 4th including drawing a foul on Duncan to give the Clips the lead with 13 seconds left then hitting the game-winner over Duncan with 1 second left.
Even going back to his very first elimination game ever, he poured in 11 points in the 4th against the Dirk-Kidd-Terry Mavs to preserve a 5-point win and send them home.
They REALLY love their narratives on here, facts be damned.
CP3 can rarely be an aggressive scorer cause he's 6'0" with limited athleticism. If he's hot against a certain defense he can light them up but there are always going to be certain limits to his game due to physical realities. No one with his size and athleticism was ever a monster scorer like that.
Bron tho? Bron is the all-time leading scorer in Game 7's and elimination games. Bron has double as many 40-point playoff games (28) than Kobe (13), KD (14), Wade (7), Shaq (12), Hakeem (11), Bird (5), Magic (4), Dr. J (7), Kareem (9), or Wilt (13). How the fukk you gonna claim he ain't an aggressive scorer? Early in his career he got hemmed up by focused zone defenses with elite personnel, but once he solved that by age 27 he became one of the most aggressive, dominant playoff scorers of all-time.
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Marc Spector
the 4'11 Cuban
Chill bruh
im a bron stan too. Youre right in that brons ability to pick defenses apart has drastically improved post 2011. Im just saying historically that his default setting use to cause paralysis by analysis and i think a similar thing happens to cp3 along with his lack of physical gifts that enable scoring
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Chris Paul is…
not better than Walt Frazier.
not better than Walt Frazier.
I agree that in 2007-2011 that "paralysis by analysis" shyt was a real thing. He started overthinking when playing elite zones with smart coaches/personnel and really stopped trusting his jumper.
Helps to remember that most of Bron's career is post-2011. He was only 26 then, he's played 10 seasons and counting since. It's like saying that MJ can't hit the midrange cause he didn't start doing it regularly until 27-28.
Frazier is such a tough comparison cause he was a very big PG in a very different era. Outside of an aging Oscar Robertson he was the tallest PG in the league in the pre-3pt era. His peak was short and during a talent drain cause it coincided with the ABA, and I honestly have basically never watched those early 70s games that he starred in. From everything I know tho he had a very good all-around game.