I WAS ABOUT TO ARGUE UR FIRST POINT UNTIL I READ UR ANALYSIS ON LEBRON...LOLSMH. CARRY ON......
CHRIS ROCK'S TOP FIVE IS BLASPHEMOUS
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I WAS ABOUT TO ARGUE UR FIRST POINT UNTIL I READ UR ANALYSIS ON LEBRON...LOLSMH. CARRY ON......
DosCadenaz
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1. 2pac
2. Lupe Fiasco
3. Ice Cube
4. Devin the Dude
5. Lil Wayne
2. Lupe Fiasco
3. Ice Cube
4. Devin the Dude
5. Lil Wayne
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
Do you know anything about this basketball shyt or you just talking out the ass my nikka?
LeBron in terms of accomplishments, skillset and statistical dominance is indeed one of the greatest players of All-Time. If this man at 30 years old isn't at least a borderline top 10 player you don't know basketball. Point blank.
SLOW UR ROLL, I'M A BASKETBALL PURIST, BROBRO...LEBRON IS OVERRATED. CATS TALKIN ABOUT HE COULD POSSIBLY BE THE GREATEST N HE REALISTICALLY NOT EVEN IN THE FIRST TIER OF ALL-TIME GREATS... DUDE RAN TO PLAY WITH 2 OTHER FRANCHISE PLAYERS (ONE WHO WAS ALREADY A FINALS MVP+TOP SG OF ALL-TIME BEFORE HE CAME ALONG)....THE KNOCK REMAINS THE SAME, HE'S SIMPLY A CHOKE ARTIST WHO UNDERPERFORMS IN BIG GAMES. HE BECOME TOO PASSIVE WHEN THE HEAT IS ON AND IS ONLY AT HIS BEST WITH A 10+ POINT LEAD...WHY U THINK HE 2/5 IN THE FINALS? AND REALISTICALLY, SHOULD BE 1/5 IF IT WASNT FOR THAT BAIL OUT RAY ALLEN THREE+EPIC SPURS CHOKEJOB IN 2012......
BUT THATS WAY OFF TOPIC.....2PAC IS THE CONSENSUS GOAT, WHETHER U LIKE IT OR NOT. AND EVEN IF U DISAGREE, TO HAVE A MOVIE BASED ON A TOP 5 LIST OF RAPPERS AND NOT INCLUDING PAC IN ANY OF THE TOP LISTS IS SIMPLY STRANGE, TO PUT IT NICELY.
BUT THATS WAY OFF TOPIC.....2PAC IS THE CONSENSUS GOAT, WHETHER U LIKE IT OR NOT. AND EVEN IF U DISAGREE, TO HAVE A MOVIE BASED ON A TOP 5 LIST OF RAPPERS AND NOT INCLUDING PAC IN ANY OF THE TOP LISTS IS SIMPLY STRANGE, TO PUT IT NICELY.
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
LeBron won't ever be the greatest. He has no chance of passing Jordan, Kareem or Russell. I don't think he'll be the G.O.A.T., I think most people realized that already he's already declining. To me he'll retire in the 4-10 range though.
LeBron left the Cavaliers because he had no help, do you watch these games dude was putting the Cavs on his back night after night on a team where Mo Williams was his second option. He was going up against loaded Celtics teams that were historically good defensively, and had four All-Stars. The team in LA had one of the leagues dynamic duos with Kobe and Gasol. See LBJ realized that you don't win NBA history without others around you. Jordan had Pippen and Rodman, Kobe played with another top 10 player in Shaq, and later Gasol, Bird had multiple HoFers, Magic played with Kareem, Worthy, Scott, etc., Russell had several HoFers. The Cavs weren't bringing in that second guy for LeBron they blew a trade for Amar'e Stoudemire because they didn't want to part ways with JJ Hickson. LeBron did what he had to do, and what's been done through NBA history. Miss me with that.
He isn't a choke artist, he did choke in the 11 Finals other than that his playoffs performance is fantastic, he was ridiculous in the '09 Playoffs averaged 35 per game hitting gamewinners and all, game 5 vs. Detroit in '07, game 6 vs. Boston in '12 these are some of he greatest performances ever. The whole '12 Playoffs were great. LeBron underperforms in big games?You do realize he's one of the most dominant closeout/game 7 per performers ever comparable to JORDAN and OSCAR ROBERTSON.
You bring up Ray Allen's three but forget LeBron scored 18 points in the 4Q, scored or assisted on 16 consecutive Miami points, hit a clutch three right before Allen's, held Tony Parker to 6 of 23 shooting and had a huge block on Tim Duncan in the 4Q. You also ignore that there was a complete overtime period after that.
Also, you ignore Larry Hughes injury in '07 and how he was alone against those Spurs at 22 year old and how Eric Snow was bench in favor of a rookie. Or last year how the Heat defense was atrocious and got throttled when LeBron sat and how LBJ was the only one producing offensively, how Wade was BURNED out. Circumstances understand em, my nikka.
All in all LeBron's skillset, accomplishments (4 MVP's, 2 championships), and his statistical dominance do make him one of the G.O.A.T.'s anyone with credibility in basketball like Bill Simmons, and ex players like Scottie Pippen, Bill Laimbeer, Magic Johnson rank him highly. Really hard to find players matching his resume at 30 years old.
But this the booth y'all
Pac is in my top 5, I don't believe in consensus G.O.A.T.'s this is music it's subjective. You from LA probably grew up on Pac, Rock is from Brooklyn he's a older dude. It differs for person to person.
LeBron won't ever be the greatest. He has no chance of passing Jordan, Kareem or Russell. I don't think he'll be the G.O.A.T., I think most people realized that already he's already declining. To me he'll retire in the 4-10 range though.
LeBron left the Cavaliers because he had no help, do you watch these games dude was putting the Cavs on his back night after night on a team where Mo Williams was his second option. He was going up against loaded Celtics teams that were historically good defensively, and had four All-Stars. The team in LA had one of the leagues dynamic duos with Kobe and Gasol. See LBJ realized that you don't win NBA history without others around you. Jordan had Pippen and Rodman, Kobe played with another top 10 player in Shaq, and later Gasol, Bird had multiple HoFers, Magic played with Kareem, Worthy, Scott, etc., Russell had several HoFers. The Cavs weren't bringing in that second guy for LeBron they blew a trade for Amar'e Stoudemire because they didn't want to part ways with JJ Hickson. LeBron did what he had to do, and what's been done through NBA history. Miss me with that.
He isn't a choke artist, he did choke in the 11 Finals other than that his playoffs performance is fantastic, he was ridiculous in the '09 Playoffs averaged 35 per game hitting gamewinners and all, game 5 vs. Detroit in '07, game 6 vs. Boston in '12 these are some of he greatest performances ever. The whole '12 Playoffs were great. LeBron underperforms in big games?You do realize he's one of the most dominant closeout/game 7 per performers ever comparable to JORDAN and OSCAR ROBERTSON.
You bring up Ray Allen's three but forget LeBron scored 18 points in the 4Q, scored or assisted on 16 consecutive Miami points, hit a clutch three right before Allen's, held Tony Parker to 6 of 23 shooting and had a huge block on Tim Duncan in the 4Q. You also ignore that there was a complete overtime period after that.
Also, you ignore Larry Hughes injury in '07 and how he was alone against those Spurs at 22 year old and how Eric Snow was bench in favor of a rookie. Or last year how the Heat defense was atrocious and got throttled when LeBron sat and how LBJ was the only one producing offensively, how Wade was BURNED out. Circumstances understand em, my nikka.
All in all LeBron's skillset, accomplishments (4 MVP's, 2 championships), and his statistical dominance do make him one of the G.O.A.T.'s anyone with credibility in basketball like Bill Simmons, and ex players like Scottie Pippen, Bill Laimbeer, Magic Johnson rank him highly. Really hard to find players matching his resume at 30 years old.
But this the booth y'all
Pac is in my top 5, I don't believe in consensus G.O.A.T.'s this is music it's subjective. You from LA probably grew up on Pac, Rock is from Brooklyn he's a older dude. It differs for person to person.
it's one thing to need help...to need a complimentary player- gasol, pippen, jason terry (lol).....but what lebron did was run to play with a player who was THEE man. a champion, finals mvp, another alpha who ran his city....why? because lebron himself is not an alpha. and u see what he did once the heat finally lost lol.....brodie, he's on that dominique wilkins, isiah thomas echelon....he doesnt match up wit jordan, kareem, bird, kobe, magic etc. not to mention, he's played his entire career in a historically bad leastern conference. the nba and bspn been shovin lebron down peoples throats for so long that cats actually equate him wit bein on the level of them players i mentioned. but he just aint.
as for title-chasing bein "done throughout nba history", show me another top tier great who willingly left his team to go play with another championship player to get his.....it never happened, u just re-writing history for the sake of arguin.
but he is a player who tenses up and plays different when true pressure is on...this is indisputable. forget the 2-5 finals record...has he had big games? of course. but just watch how he plays when games truly matter. he was being covered 1-on-1 with a 5-foot cushion by boris mufuccin diaw in the 2013 finals because of how bad he played for the first 5 games........the fact that ray allen hit that three and took the pressure off truly saved the entire perception of how people view him. but i see where u at...u been fed this bs for years by bspn and u eat it up. probably even a lebron fan (am i wrong?)...so theres no changin ur view. do u, but understand that i speak as a basketball enthusiast who used the eye test to judge a player...not the statistics and narratives.
as for the pac issue, i think some1 already hit the nail on the head when they explained how questlove had a hand in making the movie and personally didn't think pac was a great mc. if pac was only mentioned as a potential actor in a tyler perry movie, u gota admit they did him (and the west coast in general) wrong. why was ice-t laughed off (the only west coast rapper in the movie)?? the agenda was in place, g. thats all it really come down 2.
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lebron prolly aint even 30 yet, and hes already solidified his spot as the goat SF in my book.
and i can definitely see lebron passing jordan on my all-time list. jordan isnt the goat to me tho. neither of them is messing with oscar, wilt or russell. are they even toppin kareem?
and i can definitely see lebron passing jordan on my all-time list. jordan isnt the goat to me tho. neither of them is messing with oscar, wilt or russell. are they even toppin kareem?
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Lefty Gunz
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I liked it 
Mike Otherz
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2pac is probably my favorite, but he is nowhere near the consensus GOAT. NY nikkaz take pride in downplaying that nikka and its been that way since he was alive. i think its a bs argument, but NY has always been resistant to Pacs greatness as an mc, though he gets props as a figure of importance.
Mike Otherz
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ohhh......that movie with a gazillion stars in it.
yall made it seem like he had a hip-hop doc coming out on the side.
i remember years ago(i think when they did that funeral movie) when chris rock & tracy morgan were together and asked about their top 5s, im not sure if chris had jay up there. or nas for that matter.
and i clearly remember tracey giving jay-z the curve like
he gave jay the curve as the GOAT, but gave him props. in the movie jay is his 6th man, and its only old school nikkaz and BIG he had ahead of jay.
MJ Freedom
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Are some of y'all serious acting like he can't just simply be changing his Top 5 from day-to-day basically? My Top 5 will be different just depending on what day/time you ask me or what mood I'm in or what songs I had just listened to... I feel there are at least 75 rappers all-time who can make a LEGITIMATE top five claim. There's just too much greatness to choose from. 
Goat poster
KANG LIFE
You realize it was WHOLE nother game after the game your talking about (game 7) where LeBron balled out in right?
HE's the reason Ray was even in the position to hit that shot in game 6 cause he BALLED OUT in the fourth quater and kept them in the game. He scored more than the WHOLE Spurs team in that qtr.
ANd LOL at Pac bein CONSENSUS goat
AINT NO CONSENSUS goat FOOL!!!