Religion/Spirituality Christians come explain this

[Farrinto]

God couldn't even save his own son from getting killed on the cross but saves random people from car accidents?

 

[levitate]

Your choices in life are no mystery to God....

So, we do have choice then. Does God know of our choices before we make them? And if so...is that really choice?

 

[Menelik II]

Your choices in life are no mystery to God....

So there is no "free will" then?

 

[IVS]

Sounds like our lives are essentially written for us then, no?

But you see she is wrong. God did not create you, your parents did. And while you were in the womb, god did not mold you, otherwise we'd all be perfect according to their logic. And we know the world has flaws, and children are born unperfect. So do not accept her rhetoric as fact.

 

[Will Ross]

if you could prove you were right, it wouldnt be

but you come up woefully short in the credibility department. so if your arrogance is baseless

If you can't prove God is nit of real sthag shut up. All your doing is putting your personal idea into it.
I want facts that God is not real.

 

[PeridotPuss]

So, we do have choice then. Does God know of our choices before we make them? And if so...is that really choice?

A choice being "known" doesn't remove the power of the chooser.

God states He knows and has numbered every hair on your head.

His thoughts of you more than all the grains of sand

...why would someone who is smart enough to create an entire functioning universe and have this detailed of information about you.....then be flabbergasted by your choices in life?

So there is no "free will" then?

There is, the ability to chooseis innate and was present in the garden of Eden. "Free will" is another conversation.

 

[Lamar Givens]

But you see she is wrong. God did not create you, your parents did. And while you were in the womb, god did not mold you, otherwise we'd all be perfect according to their logic. And we know the world has flaws, and children are born unperfect. So do not accept her rhetoric as fact.

This by far is one of the dumbest responses I have heard in awhile. Human beings are incapable of making a living soul (existence). But I'll give you a pass, because I refuse to believe your this obtuse.

 

[Farrinto]

If you can't prove God is nit of real sthag shut up. All your doing is putting your personal idea into it.
I want facts that God is not real.

Religious people/theists claim that god is real and exists, the burden of proof lies on them.

 

[Menelik II]

There is, the ability to chooseis innate and was present in the garden of Eden. "Free will" is another conversation.

Is it either god knows everything what will happen in a predetermined universe, or he doesn't and we have "free will". Either or, you can't have both?

Btw giving someone to option to choose but they are only ever going to choose 1 option is not "free will"

 

[Archangel]

OMG! What makes you so certain of this? Where is your proof to support this claim. And if thats the case, what the purpose of us living then?

The fact that God is omniscient. He knows everything. The purpose of life if you are christian is to go out into all of the world and preach the gospel of Jesus Christ that all men may be saved. If you are not saved....well, you choose. Its all very simple.

 

[IVS]

Caring about insignificant things is benevolence that the creator is benevolent to his creations, he loves you etc... I don't think that is arrogance because again it's not about importance it is more about humility and humbling yourself to listen, to surrender yourself and not think it's all about you. But, I'm not the person to get into that.

I'm not here to argue about delusion or peoples beliefs. I won't knock or belittle someone for it because at the base of Christianity it is just being a good person and I will never knock that. Religion has done a lot of bad but it has done a lot of good too. Shame it's so corrupted.

That sounds good but thats a lie and a copout. At the base of Christianity is supremacist doctrine, and its not alright. For Jesus position of elevation comes from the fact that he hails from the Tribe of Judah and the royal house of David, and is allegedly the anointed King of Israel. To believe in Jesus is an acquiescence to Semitic supremacism, and is disgusting in all honesty.
The entire idea that the messiah of Israel has primacy over all humanity is manufactured and spurious.

Christianity is a lie. You are spreading a lie which makes you a liar, and if you have not been deceived into having a lying tongue, then you are a deceiver and a liar.

The fact that God is omniscient. He knows everything. The purpose of life if you are christian is to go out into all of the world and preach the gospel of Jesus Christ that all men may be saved. If you are not saved....well, you choose. Its all very simple.

Saved from WHAT?!

 

[the cac mamba]

If you can't prove God is nit of real sthag shut up. All your doing is putting your personal idea into it.
I want facts that God is not real.

can you provide any facts that the egyptians' gods aren't real? can you prove that christians are right about jesus, and muslims are wrong? can you prove that im not actually jesus?

all you have for 'proof' is your gay little storybook

 

[Archangel]

1. Does this mean that our entire lives are predetermined?
2. And again, why would God determine that someone must die a horrible, painful death? This does not seem like a benevolent God.

Yes our lives are predetermined by God. The Bible tells us that them who practice sin unrepentant shorten their lives. Also, if you live a life pleasing to God, you can add years to your life as well just like the prophet Hezekiah in the Bible.

As to why God would map out someone to die in horrific ways, I choose to look at it like this: The Bible says that all things work together for the good of them whom love the Lord. If someone died in a horrific car accident, that event may set off a chain of events that could ultimately bring someone else to Christ. Therefore, one persons death, equaled life and salvation for someone else.

Just like the death of Christ on the cross, meant salvation for every human being if they would accept Jesus.

IDK why God would plan for someone to die a certain type of way. Again, I ask, would you prefer every man live and die the same way?

 

[Archangel]

That sounds good but thats a lie and a copout. At the base of Christianity is supremacist doctrine, and its not alright. For Jesus position of elevation comes from the fact that he hails from the Tribe of Judah and the royal house of David, and is allegedly the anointed King of Israel. To believe in Jesus is an acquiescence to Semitic supremacism, and is disgusting in all honesty.
The entire idea that the messiah of Israel has primacy over all humanity is manufactured and spurious. There's no way Christians are good people because they are liars.


Saved from WHAT?!

Sin and eternal damnation.

 

[the cac mamba]

This by far is one of the dumbest responses I have heard in awhile. Human beings are incapable of making a living soul (existence). But I'll give you a pass, because I refuse to believe your this obtuse.

but your argument is trash, because it solely relies on "but god was always just here"