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Yes our lives are predetermined by God. The Bible tells us that them who practice sin unrepentant shorten their lives. Also, if you live a life pleasing to God, you can add years to your life as well just like the prophet Hezekiah in the Bible.

As to why God would map out someone to die in horrific ways, I choose to look at it like this: The Bible says that all things work together for the good of them whom love the Lord. If someone died in a horrific car accident, that event may set off a chain of events that could ultimately bring someone else to Christ. Therefore, one persons death, equaled life and salvation for someone else.

Just like the death of Christ on the cross, meant salvation for every human being if they would accept Jesus.

IDK why God would plan for someone to die a certain type of way. Again, I ask, would you prefer every man live and die the same way?
yes. what the fukk good does it do for a kid to get cancer?

you gonna go to that kids deathbed and tell him and his parents that his death is 'setting off a chain of events that brings someone to christ'? :what:
 

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Is it either god knows everything what will happen in a predetermined universe, or he doesn't and we have "free will". Either or, you can't have both?

Btw giving someone to option to choose but they are only ever going to choose 1 option is not "free will"

It is both though. He knows how we will use our "free will".

I'm confused. ...how is your option to choose negated by His knowing the choice?
 

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That sounds good but thats a lie and a copout. At the base of Christianity is supremacist doctrine, and its not alright. For Jesus position of elevation comes from the fact that he hails from the Tribe of Judah and the royal house of David, and is allegedly the anointed King of Israel. To believe in Jesus is an acquiescence to Semitic supremacism, and is disgusting in all honesty.
The entire idea that the messiah of Israel has primacy over all humanity is manufactured and spurious.

Christianity is a lie. You are spreading a lie which makes you a liar, and if you have not been deceived into having a lying tongue, then you are a deceiver and a liar.


Saved from WHAT?!

It's not a lie.

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yes. what the fukk good does it do for a kid to get cancer?

you gonna go to that kids deathbed and tell him and his parents that his death is 'setting off a chain of events that brings someone to christ'? :what:

No. There are many reasons behind a persons death. The one I mentioned is one of hundreds. You all have to understand this, true Christians do not put much value into this life because our ultimate goal is Heaven. I heard a guy say once that if he had a choice to die and go to Heaven right now and leave all he loved behind, he would do it in a heart beat.

When it comes to kids, its sad that many die young. But true Christians find peace in knowing that the young one is embraced in Heaven. Its tough to understand but you all put TOO much value in being here on Earth when in reality, Heaven can't come quick enough. Nothing wrong with enjoying your time here but as for us, we always keep in mind that our true destination is Heaven, not making it to 2036 or something.
 

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yes. what the fukk good does it do for a kid to get cancer?

you gonna go to that kids deathbed and tell him and his parents that his death is 'setting off a chain of events that brings someone to christ'? :what:

The crux of most atheism is God doesn't run the world according to your moral standards. Most Atheists feels they are more moral and just than God and have better logic/reasoning.

It's like coaching from the sidelines but.... on a bigger scale or telling people how to run a business when you don't have one of your own.

Basically griping with God about His choices in....running an entire eternal universe full of souls. ...when you're not responsible for anything close to that scale

Nice to see you in these threads :mjgrin: the spirituality subforum will pop one day :wow: I can feel it lol
 

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So my sister is an atheist. And my aunt can't stand that shiit. I bring it up to her all the time just to see her get pissed and get a good laugh :mjlol:

But anyway my sister was recently in a bad accident. Her car was totaled and it looked like it was dropped from a 1000 story building. But lucky all she had was a fractured bone in her arm.

So my aunt of course saw this as an opportunity to "convert"

Aunt: "Now you can't tell me God doesn't exist. He saved you" :mjgrin:

Sister: "No. I saved myself by swerving at the last minute." :jawalrus:

Bruh my aunt just started crying :russ:


So Christians I ask you, how do y'all react when your "See, God does exist" moments don't work?

Shake the dust off my feet and keep it moving.

Don't cast your pearls before swine. If someone doesn't want to hear it, there's no point in continually trying to reach them unless they're open to it.
 

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No. There are many reasons behind a persons death. The one I mentioned is one of hundreds. You all have to understand this, true Christians do not put much value into this life because our ultimate goal is Heaven. I heard a guy say once that if he had a choice to die and go to Heaven right now and leave all he loved behind, he would do it in a heart beat.

When it comes to kids, its sad that many die young. But true Christians find peace in knowing that the young one is embraced in Heaven. Its tough to understand but you all put TOO much value in being here on Earth when in reality, Heaven can't come quick enough. Nothing wrong with enjoying your time here but as for us, we always keep in mind that our true destination is Heaven, not making it to 2036 or something.
LMAO! Folks with sense please dont waste your time. Some of the sh!t y'all brains concoct is impressively stupid. I love you all.
So wouldn't we be doing you a favor is we just killed you all now.
 

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It can't be both. There is no choice if the future is set in stone and already known in advance.

The future is known to God, not you... the chooser... and just because your choice is known. ...doesn't mean you didn't choose it.

You're not explaining your point or why "it can't be both."

If you have a girlfriend and you know her well. ..she may almost always choose pink over red....you know this because you know her. So you will gift her pink things instead of red and plan accordingly. You're not forcing her to choose pink over red, though you know that's what she'll do.....you're just planning around her choice.

The difference between you and God ....is God will know the one time she will choose red and has a plan for that as well.

No one is making her do or choose anything re: pink v. red...other than her own will.

It comes down to knowing how your creations function and planning accordingly. You werent built a robot. ...but neither are you a mystery to the Most High.
 

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i don't know why Christian posters keep taking the bait for these blatant atheist troll threads :snoop:
 

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LMAO! Folks with sense please dont waste your time. Some of the sh!t y'all brains concoct is impressively stupid. I love you all.
So wouldn't we be doing you a favor is we just killed you all now.

Coming to the same conclusion as Dylann Roof brehs
 

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No. What is trash is your reply, because it has no substance, and only your emotional feelings. :yeshrug:
LOl! Another knownothing with trash responses. What proof do you have of a soul? Where is your soul right now? When you die and it leaves your body, where does it go.
This by far is one of the dumbest responses I have heard in awhile. Human beings are incapable of making a living soul (existence). But I'll give you a pass, because I refuse to believe your this obtuse.
I think my statement was very clear. If you could employ logic for a moment you may be able to follow. But I doubt you are capable of such feats. And thats fine.
 
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