Christians in Iraq ordered to convert to Islam or face death

[wingzboy]

you know what's funny though? this is exactly the language al-Baghdadi and his psychotic ilk use, they describe the Muslim World in being in a state of jahiliyyah because they don't follow their fringe, archaic interpretation of Islam. so when they indiscriminately kill other Muslims, even fellow Sunni Muslims, it's not really haram because they're not real Muslims.

instead of spending your time regurgitating the Islamophobic buzzword of the day you got from Pamela Geller's twitter feed, you and al-Baghdadi should go on a speaking tour and educate the nearly two billion Muslims on this planet on how crucifying other Muslims and gunning down children if they use the Prophet's name outside of a religious context is the "real" Islam.

Archaic interpretation? Breh your own prophet said quran came down as the final book as the other books were corrupted (torah/bible), and that the quran would persist in its final form and never to be changed. So you saying those words meant to be interpreted differently even after your own prophet had to be "sent" to ensure mankind doesn't deviate from the true message? I suggest you go educate yourself on your own religion or not selectively apply it just so you can convince yourself it is a humane and peaceful religion.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

It's not extortion. Everyone pays taxes.

TAXES ARE EXTORTION, ACCORDING TO MULLAH RON PAUL AL-TEXASI, BROTHER!

 

[saint25225]

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[Techniec]

Archaic interpretation? Breh your own prophet said quran came down as the final book as the other books were corrupted (torah/bible), and that the quran would persist in its final form and never to be changed. So you saying those words meant to be interpreted differently even after your own prophet had to be "sent" to ensure mankind doesn't deviate from the true message? I suggest you go educate yourself on your own religion or not selectively apply it just so you can convince yourself it is a humane and peaceful religion.

Call former Muslims, Muslim bruhs

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

Archaic interpretation? Breh your own prophet said quran came down as the final book as the other books were corrupted (torah/bible), and that the quran would persist in its final form and never to be changed. So you saying those words meant to be interpreted differently even after your own prophet had to be "sent" to ensure mankind doesn't deviate from the true message? I suggest you go educate yourself on your own religion or not selectively apply it just so you can convince yourself it is a humane and peaceful religion.

@ this bullshyt.

I'm not interested in caping for the divinity of the Qur'an, I'm just here to inform you that radical jihadi salafism did not spring organically from the mainstream, and to assert otherwise tells me you're either remarkably ignorant of the geopolitical context in which these groups were able to form and operate or you're just a straight up Islamophobe and want to use the crimes of .groups like ISIS to vilify and demonize all Muslims. in all likelihood, it's both.

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

Call former Muslims, Muslim bruhs

I have an unabashed atheist of Muslim Pakistani origin in my avi, he regularly gives talks in every corner of the Muslim world.... and yet, his head is still attached to his body.

 

[wingzboy]

@ this bullshyt.

I'm not interested in caping for the divinity of the Qur'an, I'm just here to inform you that radical jihadi salafism did not spring organically from the mainstream, and to assert otherwise tells me you're either remarkably ignorant of the geopolitical context in which these groups were able to form and operate or you're just a straight up Islamophobe and want to use the crimes of .groups like ISIS to vilify and demonize all Muslims. in all likelihood, it's both.

Killing/imprisoning "witches", punishing apostates, hand chopping for stealing, etc., did not originate with ISIS, there are governments out there, including ones America deals with as allies, that has such dark ages laws and do enforce them on the basis that is part of Sharia law. So basically the entire Middle East pretty much is ruled by people who are attempting to demonize islam, right breh?


Hell even different sects of Islam that have deep hatred for each other, the Iranian Shiite and the Saudi Wahhabis, both have in common the barbaric practices that are typically associated with Islam, why is that so breh? While they may have fundamental disagreements about who should govern the "ummah", clearly they at least agree on the savagery and obviously share a common source when it comes to the kind of laws needed to regulate.

Dubai, which is arguably the most modern city of the Middle East, is still based in a country that has cops out there tryna catch and punish "witches".

Here's an article from a UAE newspaper, so you can't talk shyt about the source of the information.

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/crime/abu-dhabi-police-clamp-down-on-witchcraft-1.1187179

But nah breh, Islam is a forward thinking religion, everybody got it wrong, from all the governments in the Middle East, to ISIS who hates the governments of the Middle East, they all skewing the truth that none other than our Coli breh above knows.

 

[wingzboy]

Any religion that has to kill you too stop you from leaving it should never be followed.

This is equivalent to a man that would kill his girlfriend or wife because she broke up with him
I wonder how many people would still follow Islam if they didn't think there family members or country would kill them if they left it

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These fools on here will tell you that "nothing happens", only terrorists do that shyt, blah blah. Yet even our closest ally who fights terrorism, Saudi Arabia, supports enforcing these backward laws

 

[saint25225]

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[Ritzy Sharon]

Killing/imprisoning "witches", punishing apostates, hand chopping for stealing, etc., did not originate with ISIS, there are governments out there, including ones America deals with as allies, that has such dark ages laws and do enforce them on the basis that is part of Sharia law. So basically the entire Middle East pretty much is ruled by people who are attempting to demonize islam, right breh?


Hell even different sects of Islam that have deep hatred for each other, the Iranian Shiite and the Saudi Wahhabis, both have in common the barbaric practices that are typically associated with Islam, why is that so breh? While they may have fundamental disagreements about who should govern the "ummah", clearly they at least agree on the savagery and obviously share a common source when it comes to the kind of laws needed to regulate.

Dubai, which is arguably the most modern city of the Middle East, is still based in a country that has cops out there tryna catch and punish "witches".

Here's an article from a UAE newspaper, so you can't talk shyt about the source of the information.

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/crime/abu-dhabi-police-clamp-down-on-witchcraft-1.1187179

But nah breh, Islam is a forward thinking religion, everybody got it wrong, from all the governments in the Middle East, to ISIS who hates the governments of the Middle East, they all skewing the truth that none other than our Coli breh above knows.

oh boy. you're all over the place my dude.

now these corrupt oil monarchies represent the mainstream? the Middle East is the most undemocratic region on the planet, so no, the leaders do not represent the people.

I do not have the patience to go through all of this bullshyt, but let's take your example of Saudi Arabia and Iran:

1. Saudi Arabia is a family business installed by the British and propped up by the Americans.

2. Mohammed Mossadegh, Iran's democratically elected secular/nationalist prime minister, was overthrown in 1953 in a coup organized by the CIA and MI6. it was that chain of events that led to the radicalization of the opposition in Iran that led to the Islamic Revolution.

there's no telling how different the region would have looked if the seeds of democracy were able to thrive in Iran, but I guess it's more convenient just to blame Islam.


the Sunni-Shia division always existed, but it was the US invasion and occupation of Iraq and the exacerbation of sectarian tensions there that elicited the conflict, which is currently tearing the region to shreds and creating instability to point where criminal organizations like ISIS are able to thrive. do you see what I mean by context?

I have no interest in engaging with his absurd "Islam is perfect" strawman you propped up. Islam has many faults, women and minority rights being at the forefront. I have discussed these issues and others on here many times, but your problem is this: you're not very knowledgeable about this subject and your understanding of the region and religion does not extend beyond the anti-Islam hate sites you spend your time on.

 

[wingzboy]

oh boy. you're all over the place my dude.

now these corrupt oil monarchies represent the mainstream? the Middle East is the most undemocratic region on the planet, so no, the leaders do not represent the people.

I do not have the patience to go through all of this bullshyt, but let's take your example of Saudi Arabia and Iran:

1. Saudi Arabia is a family business installed by the British and propped up by the Americans.

2. Mohammed Mossadegh, Iran's democratically elected secular/nationalist prime minister, was overthrown in 1953 in a coup organized by the CIA and MI6. it was that chain of events that led to the radicalization of the opposition in Iran that led to the Islamic Revolution.

there's no telling how different the region would have looked if the seeds of democracy were able to thrive in Iran, but I guess it's more convenient just to blame Islam.


the Sunni-Shia division always existed, but it was the US invasion and occupation of Iraq and the exacerbation of sectarian tensions there that elicited the conflict, which is currently tearing the region to shreds and creating instability to point where criminal organizations like ISIS are able to thrive. do you see what I mean by context?

I have no interest in engaging with his absurd "Islam is perfect" strawman you propped up. Islam has many faults, women and minority rights being at the forefront. I have discussed these issues and others on here many times, but your problem is this: you're not very knowledgeable about this subject and your understanding of the region and religion does not extend beyond the anti-Islam hate sites you spend your time on.

You missing my point, which is is it largely coincidental that every muslim country, even those with issues with each other, all come to the same type of backward laws when it comes to implementing islamic law? Look at Africa, lots of corruption there, but the way the corruption is played out varies, from land stripping that Mugabe does, to ethnic cleansing in other parts. However in muslim countries, they all have similar laws on similar subjects, which indicate a common source for these savage laws. Different forms of corruption amongst muslim countries does indeed exist, some you can buy drugs, others you receive jail time for even a speck of kush on your clothes. However what they have in common is what is acceptable or not from a religious perspective, with different degrees of oppressiveness when it comes to enforcing these laws based on how conservative the regime is.

If you knew anything about the corrupt oil monarchies you will know most are loved by their population. If you gonna sit there and tell me Arabs in the oil rich countries hate their leaders then you know very little of that region. Nobody is disputing Western nations role in propping up those obedient regimes, however it was not the West who told them to use Islamic law for their choice of law, it was something they chose to do as they view themselves as a muslim nation.

 

[wingzboy]

Yeah I know, this is why I could never live in a theocracy , peep these clips of a Muslim man in Britain admitting it. He dodge it and stuttered in the first clip




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Breh you can't be posting shyt of these corrupt devils trying to demonize muslims...










































It just shows you how anywhere in the world, British muslim or in the Middle East, they have common ideas on certain principles that our coli brehs fail to recognize. What now? The UK and other anti-islamic groups funding this nikka to demonize Islam? Or this fool actual believes what is in his book and just practicing it as he learned it?

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

You missing my point, which is is it largely coincidental that every muslim country, even those with issues with each other, all come to the same type of backward laws when it comes to implementing islamic law? Look at Africa, lots of corruption there, but the way the corruption is played out varies, from land stripping that Mugabe does, to ethnic cleansing in other parts. However in muslim countries, they all have similar laws on similar subjects, which indicate a common source for these savage laws. Different forms of corruption amongst muslim countries does indeed exist, some you can buy drugs, others you receive jail time for even a speck of kush on your clothes. However what they have in common is what is acceptable or not from a religious perspective, with different degrees of oppressiveness when it comes to enforcing these laws based on how conservative the regime is. If you knew anything about the corrupt oil monarchies you will know most are loved by their population. If you gonna sit there and tell me Arabs in the oil rich countries hate their leaders then you know very little of that region. Nobody is disputing Western nations role in propping up those obedient regimes, however it was not the West who told them to use Islamic law for their choice of law, it was something they chose to do as they view themselves as a muslim nation.

you should have titled this post: orientalism explained by a simpleton.

loved by their population. no fool, there is a healthy contempt and resentment towards these autocrats. do you think over half the population in KSA enjoy being infantilized and treated as second class citizens? the only reason the Arab uprising hasn't reached the Gulf yet is the crippling poverty that plagues most Arab countries doesn't exist there, but when that oil bubble bursts, we'll see how loved they are.

again, you're showing your lack of understanding of the region. the West has long encouraged fundamentalist Islam to suppress the embryonic social struggles in Muslim countries.
any instance of democratic, leftist or liberal impulses were stamped out and obviously Islam was going to full that void. it's only when the people are able to control their own destiny and political Islam is given a chance to fail will the region be able to reach modernity.

 

[wingzboy]

you should have titled this post: orientalism explained by a simpleton.

loved by their population. no fool, there is a healthy contempt and resentment towards these autocrats. do you think over half the population in KSA enjoy being infantilized and treated as second class citizens? the only reason the Arab uprising hasn't reached the Gulf yet is the crippling poverty that plagues most Arab countries doesn't exist there, but when that oil bubble bursts, we'll see how loved they are.

again, you're showing your lack of understanding of the region. the West has long encouraged fundamentalist Islam to suppress the embryonic social struggles in Muslim countries.
any instance of democratic, leftist or liberal impulses were stamped out and obviously Islam was going to full that void. it's only when the people are able to control their own destiny and political Islam is given a chance to fail will the region be able to reach modernity.

That is why the condition set on Gulf nations by the US companies was that they needed to ban slavery before they would buy their oil right? That is why until today those regimes still get called out on their inhumane treatment to workers and women by Western nations, while they don't force the issue, they do criticize. You don't know shyt about the Gulf countries and probably never even visited one let alone speak to their locals on their opinion of their rulers. You're delusional and ignorant breh, I'm done wasting time on your ass.

 

[lini...]

http://muslimvillage.com/2014/07/18/55890/belgium-woman-assists-more-than-1000-become-muslim/h
This is the result of the efforts of (1) woman. Just imagine what will happen when Muslims find their voice.

Haters get on your job! lol