Christians, Jews, Muslims, Catholics, and the NOI all believe in the same God.

[MMS]

Keyword is imagine. As an engineer one goes by peer review science, methodology and verification. This imagery on things leans more towards being delusional and psychotic!

I am actually a Six Sigma and Lean green belt I left that world behind though

but I may come back to it with investment

 

[Chrishaune]

Psalm 8:1-5

O Lord, our Lord,
How majestic and glorious and excellent is Your name in all the earth!
You have displayed Your splendor above the heavens.

2 Out of the mouths of infants and nursing babes You have established strength
Because of Your adversaries,
That You might silence the enemy and make the revengeful cease.


3 When I see and consider Your heavens, the work of Your fingers,
The moon and the stars, which You have established,

4 What is man that You are mindful of him,
And the son of [earthborn] man that You care for him?

5 Yet You have made him a little lower than God,
And You have crowned him with glory and honor.

For all of those that love to call themselves gods (elohim). That's not the level you're on. That's not a bad thing though.

 

[Still Benefited]

You are a useful idiot, just like @MMS.


There is something called science and with science, linguistics, archeology, anthropology, genetics etc with this you can reconstruct things. Idiot @MMS who claims to be an engineer doesn’t understand this.

The “Jesus” story is an interpolation on Hebraic culture.

"5547 Xristós (from 5548 /xríō, "anoint with olive oil") – properly, “the Anointed One," the Christ (Hebrew, “Messiah")."
Strong's Greek: 5547. Χριστός (Christos) -- the Anointed One, Messiah, Christ



Perhaps you can answer these, since the idiot @MMS can’t?

1) What does the word Moses mean: קַדְמוֹן
2) What does this Hebrew word mean: אָדָם
3) Show us the original Septuagint and Ptolemaic writings you've read and have translated.
4) What is the timeline of the Ptolemaic dynasty?
5) You understand the word psalm is English, right? And not even old English, it's modern English!
6) What is the Greek word for psalm used by Ptolemy? What is the Greek etymology?
7) What is the classical Lain word for psalm used by Roman? What is the Latin etymology?
8) What is the Hebrew word for psalm used by ancient Hebrews? What is the Hebrew etymology?
8) What is the Hebrew word for satanic and what does it mean in Hebrew!?
10) What is the classic Greek word for satanic and what does it mean classical Greek!?
11) What is the classical Latin word for satanic and what does it mean classical Latin!?
12) HECK, WHAT IS THE ENGLISH ETYMOLOGY OF THE WORD SATANIC and GOD?
13) What does the Hebrew word mean: אֲדֹון
14 And how many other instances do we see as a different descriptor beside אֲדֹון אֲדֹנָי אֱלֹהִים?
15) Where was Gog and Magog located and what ethnic groups lived there? From where did these ethnic groups come?!
16) And with that being said, what ethnic groups populated Canaan?
17) What is the interpolation of these texts you cite ...?
Proverbs 3:1-8
Genesis 9:25-27
Matthew 7:21-23
Luke 12:1-15
Psalm 73
Psalm 2

Exactly you dumb bytch,I just explained to you science is why I don't need your book suggestions. But you obviously don't understand genetics/epigenitics specefically. You only got one wheelhouse. I gave you the way,the bible with some knowledge of science also told you that,but you lacked the discernment to catch that. I've already looked up the answers to some of your questions because I like to learn new things for my own benefit. However I'm not interesting in dialoguing with men who can't manage to carry themselves online like they would in my presence. So I will just put you on ignore,clean up some of the spam in this thread

.

 

[Ish Gibor]

Spoiler

Bible Gateway passage: Deuteronomy 32 - King James Version

The "song" of Moses

The Book of Deuteronomy 32:20-44

20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.

21 They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.

22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

23 I will heap mischiefs upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon them.

24 They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust.

25 The sword without, and terror within, shall destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray hairs.

26 I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men:

27 Were it not that I feared the wrath of the enemy, lest their adversaries should behave themselves strangely, and lest they should say, Our hand is high, and the Lord hath not done all this.

28 For they are a nation void of counsel, neither is there any understanding in them.

29 O that they were wise, that they understood this, that they would consider their latter end!

30 How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight, except their Rock had sold them, and the Lord had shut them up?

31 For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges.

32 For their vine is of the vine of Sodom, and of the fields of Gomorrah: their grapes are grapes of gall, their clusters are bitter:

33 Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.

34 Is not this laid up in store with me, and sealed up among my treasures?

35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.

36 For the Lord shall judge his people, and repent himself for his servants, when he seeth that their power is gone, and there is none shut up, or left.

37 And he shall say, Where are their gods, their rock in whom they trusted,

38 Which did eat the fat of their sacrifices, and drank the wine of their drink offerings? let them rise up and help you, and be your protection.

39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

40 For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.

41 If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.

42 I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenges upon the enemy.

43 Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people: for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.

44 And Moses came and spake all the words of this song in the ears of the people, he, and Hoshea the son of Nun.

Spoiler

The Book of the Prophet Isaiah 14:12-14

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Gematria value of raoh is 139 - English, Hebrew and Simple Gematria Calculator Values
Gematria value of sin is 139 - English, Hebrew and Simple Gematria Calculator Values

139 is the 34th prime number. It is a twin prime with 137. Because 141 is a semiprime, 139 is a Chen prime. 139 is the smallest prime before a prime gap of length 10.[1]

This number is the sum of five consecutive prime numbers (19 + 23 + 29 + 31 + 37).

Shalim - Wikipedia
Shahar (god) - Wikipedia

As I said, you are a bowl of disoriented mass confusion! A person who is mentally slow.
You keep posting these English mistranslated texts, as if it means something. DUMB DUMB!

Answer these, since you are the "highly exalted" specialist:

1) What does the word Moses mean: קַדְמוֹן
2) What does this Hebrew word mean: אָדָם
3) Show us the original Septuagint and Ptolemaic writings you've read and have translated.
4) What is the timeline of the Ptolemaic dynasty?
5) You understand the word psalm is English, right? And not even old English, it's modern English!
6) What is the Greek word for psalm used by Ptolemy? What is the Greek etymology?
7) What is the classical Lain word for psalm used by Roman? What is the Latin etymology?
8) What is the Hebrew word for psalm used by ancient Hebrews? What is the Hebrew etymology?
8) What is the Hebrew word for satanic and what does it mean in Hebrew!?
10) What is the classic Greek word for satanic and what does it mean classical Greek!?
11) What is the classical Latin word for satanic and what does it mean classical Latin!?
12) HECK, WHAT IS THE ENGLISH ETYMOLOGY OF THE WORD SATANIC and GOD?
13) What does the Hebrew word mean: אֲדֹון
14 And how many other instances do we see as a different descriptor beside אֲדֹון אֲדֹנָי אֱלֹהִים?
15) Where was Gog and Magog located and what ethnic groups lived there? From where did these ethnic groups come?!
16) And with that being said, what ethnic groups populated Canaan?
17) What is the interpolation of these texts you cite ...?
Proverbs 3:1-8
Genesis 9:25-27
Matthew 7:21-23
Luke 12:1-15
Psalm 73
Psalm 2
Isaiah 14:12-14
Deuteronomy 32:20-44


Dr Wesley Muhammad Response to Pastor Gino Jennings did G-d create the heavens and earth from nothing or did G-d Create his body from the darkness from the Lecture Entitled: Dr. Wesley Muhammad "A Defense For Point No.12" at Mosque No.7

 

[Ish Gibor]

Exactly you dumb bytch,I just explained to you science is why I don't need your book suggestions. But you obviously don't understand genetics/epigenitics specefically. You only got one wheelhouse. I gave you the way,the bible with some knowledge of science also told you that,but you lacked the discernment to catch that. I've already looked up the answers to some of your questions because I like to learn new things for my own benefit. However I'm not interesting in dialoguing with men who can't manage to carry themselves online like they would in my presence. So I will just put you on ignore,clean up some of the spam in this thread

.

To call someone a dumb bytch for commending science is a bit ironic, when you are typing this from an electronic device, on to a massages board that is based on algorithms. Do you have any idea how much science, coordination, logistics, distributions and organization goes into this? I bet you have no idea.

How low does your pants sag, unproductive c00n and unusual member to the Black community and society as a whole!!! And yes, I do understand these sciences. Genetics / epigenitics specifically. The word is specifically, not "specefically" you high school dropout. How are you going to misspell something like this and argue over linguistics? And on that note* I am multilingual and you said: "I don't know any other languages". Anyway, this conversation has and had nothing to do with epigenitics, so you are using words that you cannot even comprehend. But if you want to go there, tell me what alleles and locus are being expressed?

And I don't need your input for science. I rather follow someone legit in the field of genetics, archeology, anthropology, linguistics etc. Not some self-proclaimed scholar, who's actually a high school dropout. If you actually new something about science you would not have typed that utter BS. You most likely never set foot in an auditorium, let alone a professional lab and done genetic tests, or a genetic sequence. You puff that blunt, but don't know that science and logisics behind it.


So, who the hell cares who you put on "ignorance", since you ignore science! I sure don't give a fukk! With types like you Black people can't win. Trash like you needs to be removed!

“Populations for which the ancient Caucasus genomes are best ancestral approximations include those of the Southern Caucasus and interestingly, South and Central Asia. Western Europe tends to be a mix of early farmers and western/eastern hunter-gatherers while Middle Eastern genomes are described as a mix of early farmers and Africans.

[…]

Caucasus hunter-gatherer contribution to subsequent populations. We next explored the extent to which Bichon and CHG contributed to contemporary populations using outgroup f3(African; modern, ancient) statistics, which measure the shared genetic history between an ancient genome and a modern population since they diverged from an African outgroup.

Discussion

Given their geographic origin, it seems likely that CHG and EF are the descendants of early colonists from Africa who stopped south of the Caucasus, in an area stretching south to the Levant and possibly east towards Central and South Asia.WHG, on the other hand, are likely the descendants of a wave that expanded further into Europe. The separation of these populations is one that stretches back before the Holocene, as indicated by local continuity through the Late Palaeolithic/Mesolithic boundary and deep coalescence estimates, which date to around the LGM and earlier.”

(Jones, E. R., G., et al. 2015.,Upper Palaeolithic genomes reveal deep roots of modern Eurasians.” Nature Communications 6 (1): 8912. doi:10.1038/ncomms9912.)
http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/ncomms9912.

"This involved comparing historically documented Phoenician sites with neighboring non-Phoenician sites for the identification of weak but systematic signatures shared by the Phoenician sites that could not readily be explained by chance or by other expansions.

From these comparisons, we found that haplogroup J2, in general, and six Y-STR haplotypes, in particular, exhibited a Phoenician signature that contributed > 6% to the modern Phoenician-influenced populations examined.

Our methodology can be applied to any historically documented expansion in which contact and noncontact sites can be identified […]

PCS3+ scores strongly as a Phoenician-colonization candidate and is strongly associated with the SNP haplogroup E3b, but it does not show the wide geographic coverage that the other PCS+S demonstrate. It represents the strongest of the lower-coverage STR+S. [...]

Both PCS1+ and PCS2+ contain multiple haplogroups, primarily J2 but including J*(xJ2) and E3b, with PCS1+ containing the greatest diversity. [...]

The Phoenicians were a distinctive and independent civilization that dominated the Mediterranean Sea during the first millennium BCE, emerging from a coastal section of the Eastern Mediterranean, including the four main Bronze Age maritime cities of Tyre, Sidon, Byblos, and Arwad and located in the modern countries of Lebanon and southern Syria."

(P. A. Zalloua et al., Identifying genetic traces of historical expansions: Phoenician footprints in the Mediterranean, Am. J. Hum. Genet., 83(5):633-642, 2008 DOI

Figurine of Semitic Slave in Egypt during the time of the Exodus from the Hecht Museum, Haifa, Israel.

עברית: צלמית של שבוי שמי, ידיו קשורות מאחור, ממצרים העתיקה. אסף מוזיאון הכט​

"14 And I will return the captives of Egypt and will lead them to the land of Pathros, to the land of their habitation, and they shall be there an unimportant kingdom."

ידוְשַׁבְתִּי֙ אֶת־שְׁב֣וּת מִצְרַ֔יִם וַֽהֲשִֽׁבֹתִ֚י אֹתָם֙ אֶ֣רֶץ פַּתְר֔וֹס​

עַל־אֶ֖רֶץ מְכֽוּרָתָ֑ם וְהָ֥יוּ שָׁ֖ם מַמְלָכָ֥ה שְׁפָלָֽה:​

chabad.org


PATHROS (Pathʹros).


"Pathros is regularly associated with Egypt (Heb., Mits·raʹyim). (Eze 30:13, 14) Most scholars connect the name Pathros with an Egyptian expression meaning “Land of the South” and evidently referring to Upper Egypt. Upper Egypt generally designates the region of the Nile Valley running from a point somewhat S of Memphis on up (south) to Syene (modern Aswan) at the first cataract of the Nile. The text at Isaiah 11:11, which foretells the return of Israelite exiles from ‘Egypt (Mizraim), Pathros and Cush,’ would seem to corroborate the placing of Pathros somewhere in Upper Egypt, with Cush (Ethiopia) bordering it on the S. An Assyrian inscription of King Esar-haddon gives a similar lineup, referring to “Egypt (Musur), Paturisi and Nubia [Kusu, or Cush].”—Ancient Near Eastern Texts, edited by J. Pritchard, 1974, p. 290.


Ezekiel 29:14 calls Pathros “the land of their [the Egyptians’] origin.” The traditional Egyptian view, as recounted by Herodotus (II, 4, 15, 99), apparently corroborates this, as it makes Upper Egypt, and particularly the region of Thebes, the seat of the first Egyptian kingdom, under a king whom Herodotus calls Menes, a name not found in Egyptian records. Diodorus Siculus (first century B.C.E.) records a similar view. (Diodorus of Sicily, I, 45, 1) The Egyptian tradition set forth by these Greek historians may be a feeble echo of the true history presented in the Bible regarding Mizraim (whose name came to stand for Egypt) and his descendants, including Pathrusim.—Ge 10:13, 14.


Following the desolation of Judah by Nebuchadnezzar, a remnant of the Jews fled into Egypt. Among the places listed in which they dwelt are Migdol, Tahpanhes, Noph (all cities of Lower Egypt), and “the land of Pathros.” (Jer 44:1) Here they engaged in idolatrous worship, resulting in Jehovah’s condemnation of them and the warning of a coming conquest of Egypt by Nebuchadnezzar. (Jer 44:15, 26-30) Papyrus evidence of the fifth century B.C.E. shows a Jewish colony situated all the way at the southern end of ancient Egypt at Elephantine by Syene."

wol.jw.org

THE MORGAN LIBRARY MUSEUM/ART RESOURCE, NY

ENIGMATIC PAPYRUS ROLL. The decipherment of P. Amherst 63 has been a long and painful process of trial and error. Written in Demotic, a cursive script derived from Egyptian hieroglyphs, this manuscript sheds new light on the Israelite religion and history of the Hebrew Bible. The cultic song contained in column XII, pictured here, is strinkingly similar to the Biblical Psalm 20.

Brooklyn Musem, Bequest of Theodora Wilbour/Photograph by Bruce and Kenneth Zuckerman, West Semitic Research

IN THIS MARRIAGE DOCUMENT, dated to July 3, 449 B.C.E., Ananiah, who was a Jewish temple official on Elephantine, asks Meshullam for the hand of his daughter Tamut. The manuscript belongs to a group of papyri and ostraca (inscribed potsherds) that allow a fascinating glimpse into the daily life of Ananiah and Tamut and of other Arameans and Jews at Syene and Elephantine during the first Persian occupation of Egypt (525–404 B.C.E.).

Egyptian Papyrus Sheds New Light on Jewish History

 

[old pig]

How low does your pants sag, unproductive c00n and unusual member to the Black community and society as a whole!!!

“ish geber” is a filipino name

 

[Ish Gibor]

“ish geber” is a filipino name

Really? So, since when do Filipinos speak an Afroasiatic language גֶבֶר אִישׁ ? Perhaps you mean to say that Black Moors ended up at the Filipinos?

Biblical Hebrew has five words meaning “man”: ‘ish, geber, ’adam, ’enosh and mt. The last two terms (’enosh and mt) connote human frailty and weakness and as such are never applied to G-d in Scripture. The terms ‘ish and geber, on the other hand, connote a man of strength, kingship, and spirituality and the Hebrew Bible declares that God is this sort of man: He is an ‘ish and a geber or rather its intensive form, gibbor, “mighty man.” Ten times the Hebrew Bible explicitly calls G-d a man (‘ish, gibbor; Gen. 18; 32:24-30; Ex. 15:3; 33:11; Hos 2:16; Ps. 24:7-10; Isa. 42:13; Zeph. 1:14, 3:17; Jer. 20:11).

The God of Israel is a man, a Black man

View of Are there two types of men in Leviticus 20:13?

Spoiler: Black God Science

Spoiler: Oh oh...

 

[old pig]

^^^

sooo you’re not filipino?

your post above doesn’t answer my question directly at all

 

[Ish Gibor]

^^^

sooo you’re not filipino?

your post above doesn’t answer my question directly at all

The name surf is Indian. So you're Indian.

 

[old pig]

The name surf is Indian. So you're Indian.

no, I’m not...see how easy a direct answer is?

I was genuinely curious about the name “ish geber” tho...thought maybe it was an anime character or some shyt so I googled it and seen only filipino dudes pop up as it appears to be an actual name...and then I seen that comment you made and questioned you about it...and you’ve done everything short of answering the question directly

 

[Ish Gibor]

no, I’m not...see how easy a direct answer is?

You did not directly answer my question. But I gave you the origin of my screen name and the etymological meaning. I gave you sufficient understanding what Ish Geber means and what it meant to ancient Afroasiatic speakers. Somehow you conflate it with something I quite frankly have no idea what the hell you're implying or talk about. It was you who popped out of nowhere with the Filipino thing.

Your screen name is Indian.

surf (n.)
1680s, probably from earlier suffe (1590s), of uncertain origin. Originally used in reference to the coast of India, hence perhaps of Indic origin. Or perhaps a phonological respelling of sough, which meant "a rushing sound.

surf | Origin and meaning of surf by Online Etymology Dictionary

 

[old pig]

You did not directly answer my question.

I literally did...yet you still literally haven’t directly answered if you’re filipino or not



and the bold is the basis for my screen name

surf
/sərf/
See definitions in:
All
Surfing
Computing

noun

1. the mass or line of foam formed by waves breaking on a seashore or reef.
   "the roar of the surf"
   • 
     verb
     1. 1.
        stand or lie on a surfboard and ride on a wave towards the shore.
        "he's learning to surf"
        • 2.
          move from page to page or site to site on (the World Wide Web).
          "the device allows you to surf the net and send emails"

 

[Ish Gibor]

I literally did...and you still literally haven’t answered if you’re filipino or not

and bold is the definition you should’ve grabbed

surf
/sərf/
See definitions in:
All
Surfing
Computing

noun

1. the mass or line of foam formed by waves breaking on a seashore or reef.
   "the roar of the surf"
   • 
     verb
     1. 1.
        stand or lie on a surfboard and ride on a wave towards the shore.
        "he's learning to surf"
        • 2.
          move from page to page or site to site on (the World Wide Web).
          "the device allows you to surf the net and send emails"

Do you understand linguistics and how root words work? The word surf stems from the PIE, not from Afrasan.

The etymology goes back to the PIE, which is what I showed you. What showed a modern interpretation of the word and how it delineated from th root. In fact that is what it entire conversation has been about. And what I have been trying to teach people here.

See, that is why you need to read books and not rely on "feelings" or personal opinions.

"Proto-Indo-European (PIE) is the theorized common ancestor of the Indo-European language family. Its proposed features have been derived by linguisticreconstruction from documented Indo-European languages. No direct record of Proto-Indo-European exists."
Proto-Indo-European language - Wikipedia.


"Afroasiatic (Afro-Asiatic), also known as Afrasian or Hamito-Semitic[2] or Semito-Hamitic,[3] is a large language family of about 300 languages that are spoken predominantly in the Middle East, North Africa, the Horn of Africa and parts of the Sahel.[4] With the exception of Semitic, which is also spoken in the Middle-East, all branches of the Afrosiatic family are spoken exclusively on the African continent."
Afroasiatic languages - Wikipedia

 

[old pig]

^^^

look at all this bullshyt but you can’t type a “yes” or “no” in response to the question of being filipino foh lmaooo...I can easily post a pic of my hand and hair product(s) confirming I’m black...can you???

or are you yet another asian on here pretending to be black?

 

[Ish Gibor]

^^^

look at all this bullshyt but you can’t type a “yes” or “no” in response to the question of being filipino foh lmaooo

As I said, I have no idea what my screen name has to do with the Filipinos. It's weird at best.
But if you want a simple answer, it's no I am not Filipino. lol smh

Next time what you can do is look into a persons history (posts). That is simpler than coming up with these weird accusations. You still haven't shown me the Filipino descriptor of the words "Ish Geber" and the meaning of it in the Austronesian language branch.

After the word surf it delineated from the PIE, ...

"Surfing" is a noun; "surf" is the verb. But how did these words evolve over time? So where do the words "surfing" and "surf" come from?
When we look up in the (online) dictionary for the word "surfing", this is what we get in return: a) the sport or pastime of riding a wave towards the shore while standing or lying on a surfboard; b) the activity of moving from site to site on the Internet.

For the word "surf", here's the result: a) stand or lie on a surfboard and ride on a wave towards the shore; b) move from site to site on (the Internet).

Interestingly, linguists believe that the word "surf" has its origins in the late 17th century, apparently from obsolete "suff", meaning "the shoreward surge of the sea". The language specialists underline that "suff" might have been influenced by the spelling of "surge".

Alright. So, now we've got "surge". This word dates back to the 15th century and can be translated as "a sudden powerful forward or upward movement, especially by a crowd or by a natural force such as the tide."

We can see (and hear) that there's still a logic connection with the sport of surfing. But the history challenge is not yet won. Let's dig a bit more. "Surge" (meaning fountain or steam) comes from Old French verb "sourge" which, in turn, is influenced by the Latin "surgo/surgere" (to rise).

Linguists highlight that the word "surge" was initially used to reveal the "rise and fall on the waves," and to express a "swell with great force," as well. The original Latin "surgo" tells us "to rise, arise, get up, stand up."

In the end, it all makes sense. Surfing involves humans "rising and standing" on a surfboard, but waves and tides also rise. We're stunned by what we found: the word "surgo," the linguistic mother of "surfing," has roughly 2,000 years.

Surfing/Surf: The Etymology of the Word

Surgo/Surgere (Latin) > Sourge (Old French) > Surge/Suff (English) > Surf (17th Century)

The origin of the word "surfing"


And this is why Biblical translations and transliterations are so skewed. Because many of the words are far removed from the original intend.