Chuck D is sonning Rosenberg and Ebro

[OnlyInCalifornia]

Plenty of songs that are 'good' don't make it to the radio for any number of reasons. They don't just play good music and Ebro knows that. They play music that is handed to them from pre approved outlets that obviously have vested interests in the music they are pushing around.

And there is nothing wrong with playing this type of music because people do like it. We can't sit and pretend no one likes to hear Chris Brown, Nicki Minaj, and Katy Perry. If you are looking for balance, don't wait for it. Go pull up spotify, pandora, google music, your own playlist, itunes music,XM radio backspin, etc.

 

[Wacky D]

its not about making your own playlists, or some gadget radio stations that most people have never heard of and/or have no access too.

people gotta see the big picture here.

this whole 'throwing up your arms and leaving the room' mentality is one of the reasons why we are where we at.

 

[hex]

Nothing has changed though?
Primetime hiphop radio has never played "real hiphop", it's always been about the numbers.

They play "real hiphop" during the worst times on the worst days, that's how it's been and that's how still is.

Back when Chuck D and them were hot MTV played hiphop 2 hours a week after midnight on fridays when people were out, no disrespect but these old people have been complaining since the late 80s. They damn well know that media is a profit maximizing medium, pleasing the biggest and costumers with the highest purchasing power is not playing fukking Action Bronson who is my main man. I just have to face the facts, if I want to hear that type of shyt I'll go on spotify, iTunes, blogs, youtube and the mad different sources out there. Even interviews, we get that shyt from podcasts and all that, all you need is a smartphone and you can record an interview and broadcast it for billions of youtube and post it blogs that cater to the fans of those type of rappers.

This isn't actually true at all. In addition to YO! MTV Raps they had "blocks" of rap music from people like LL, Cube, etc. through out the day. Also in the late 90's they had Jams. So to act like MTV or mainstream video/radio didn't play what we consider classic hip-hop until late night isn't accurate....it's down right impossible given how rap blew up in the late 80's, early 90's.

Same goes for radio. There was a late night radio show on Hot 103 Jamz that played underground/new shyt before it blew up but the Hot 8 At 8 played anything new, from De La Soul to DU, in addition to playing rap all throughout the day. And this is in Kansas City, Missouri, which obviously isn't some kind of rap mecca.

So nah. People see how things are now, and assume that's how it's always been.

Fred.

 

[TrifeGod]

Who gives a fukk..I haven't listened to the radio in over 10 years..if he doesn't like it, than turn that bull shyt off

I might get shot down for this but fukk it. The irony with Dead Prez. If you're going to use Dead Prez as an example of going against Chuck D, then you need to understand what the outcome would be. Dead Prez said fukk the radio, and look who makes up 95% of their shows. White people. The exact ethnicity they go against in their music. The irony. You're a idiot so I'm not really addressing you so let me go back to generally speaking. I believe Chuck D still understands the power that radio has, or the philosophy of having an outlet besides the internet to push up and coming artist.

Edit: Also........if your fav artist doesn't believe in the radio.......and you believe you dont need the radio.....then why isn't noone buyin said artist music............everyone still falls victim to clicking download.........
If Dead Prez and artist a like was pushed on the radio, we would possibly be at a different point in Hip-Hop. If tv stations and radio actually stuck with what Hip-Hop was during the Golden Era, we wouldn't be having this convo. The problem is there is no balance on the radio and television. And the internet is our last savior. Well it was our last savior because now the internet is allowing artificial artist to get recognition. It's really is a catch 22 I guess....It used to be 2 hands on the sword ..now it's back to one (bong bong)

 

[Newark88]

Things will never change until the people (listeners/consumers) change, in regards to what they choose to support. Bottom line.

 

[Harry B]

This isn't actually true at all. In addition to YO! MTV Raps they had "blocks" of rap music from people like LL, Cube, etc. through out the day. Also in the late 90's they had Jams. So to act like MTV or mainstream video/radio didn't play what we consider classic hip-hop until late night isn't accurate....it's down right impossible given how rap blew up in the late 80's, early 90's.

Same goes for radio. There was a late night radio show on Hot 103 Jamz that played underground/new shyt before it blew up but the Hot 8 At 8 played anything new, from De La Soul to DU, in addition to playing rap all throughout the day. And this is in Kansas City, Missouri, which obviously isn't some kind of rap mecca.

So nah. People see how things are now, and assume that's how it's always been.

Fred.

They didn't play Cube? Today was a good day, maybe?
LL alright that's cause he had pop hits, not nearly as played as Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer though. Just like they play Nas today when he has a pop hit, just like they play Kendrick Lamar when he has a pop hit, just like they play Lupe Fiasco when he has a pop hit or whoever the fukk has a hit record . They were not playing platinum selling, hiphop starting Paid in Full though, they were not playing Wu-tang, Ultramagnetic MC's, 2x platinum Public Enemy. They were playing the Mackelmore of that time; Beastie Boys.

To hear real hiphop, that wasn't blowing up on the pop scene you had to wait until friday night. Yo got more time during tv in the room time though and that was dope, and more hiphop songs were charting high during the second half of the 90s, so naturally it's prime time presence increased. That's what all this is about, people with hits always got played, people without never got played.

In NY, you got Funk Flex at night. Perhaps Missouri was better, just like today with Flex and Cypha. We can say they play Kendrick and J. Cole on radio all the time, real hiphop is still played. No people with hits are played, that's how it's always been. At least in NY.

 

[jilla82]

Things will never change until the people (listeners/consumers) change, in regards to what they choose to support. Bottom line.

this is pretty much it.

Everyone knows what channel PBS is on their Tv...but how many are really watching it?

 

[Miggs]

u sure breh? I am sure slave deals were active then, and rap wasn't as big as it is now, I can't imagine the nikka is living good if rappers way bigger than him at hip hop's heyday now shyt in a bucket and still rocking clothes from a decade ago when they were hot.

PE tours ALOT overseas and he also banks from doing the lecture circuit,hes far from broke..What does a 50 yr old man care about clothes and cars esp a man with his past pedigree...

 

[Miggs]

Chuck was also one of the forefathers of the digital music revolution when it popped off late 90s...His site was the first one to make PE cuts available to DL and stream other content from him and his signed artists directly...so that he old and out of touch with the new age and technology is also false.

 

[Miggs]

Chuck was also one of the forefathers of the digital music revolution when it popped off late 90s...His site was the first one to make PE cuts available to DL and stream other content from him and his signed artists directly...so that he old and out of touch with the new age and technology angle is also false.

 

[The Ruler 09]

It ain't about what's good or dope that's the problem, it's often about who's paying or the contacts. It's terribly unbalanced, there's a place for all types of Hip Hop. Instead of pushing 1 or 2 mostly negative things down our throats. The issue is the people that make the decisions aren't thinking about quality. That's why we need to start our own radio stations and outlets. I'm trying to think who said it but it was either Chuck or KRS and they said you should be able to turn on the radio and hear a dope artist from the South, NY, Westcoast, UK, France, Nigeria, wherever, the only criteria should be if it's dope or not. It would be brilliant if the only criteria was what's dope. Could play pop tracks too, but balance is an issue, a DJ is supposed to in part break artists, not just play what their told. That ain't real, Premier and people like that are real DJ's.

 

[Just like bruddas]

I have been disgusted with hot97 over the pass year or so. Especially when they speak on racism. I was listening to them omw to work and the shyt Ebro was saying was un fukking believe. This is the plan, the jews own hot97 and theyre tryin to destroy our pride and culture. Their views on racism are c00nish and pretend that it doesn't exist or isnt as serious. They said we always over react. Ebro talking mad slick about our issues, saying nikka on the air etc.

fukk all of them jews

 

[hex]

They didn't play Cube? Today was a good day, maybe?
LL alright that's cause he had pop hits, not nearly as played as Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer though. Just like they play Nas today when he has a pop hit, just like they play Kendrick Lamar when he has a pop hit, just like they play Lupe Fiasco when he has a pop hit or whoever the fukk has a hit record . They were not playing platinum selling, hiphop starting Paid in Full though, they were not playing Wu-tang, Ultramagnetic MC's, 2x platinum Public Enemy. They were playing the Mackelmore of that time; Beastie Boys.

To hear real hiphop, that wasn't blowing up on the pop scene you had to wait until friday night. Yo got more time during tv in the room time though and that was dope, and more hiphop songs were charting high during the second half of the 90s, so naturally it's prime time presence increased. That's what all this is about, people with hits always got played, people without never got played.

In NY, you got Funk Flex at night. Perhaps Missouri was better, just like today with Flex and Cypha. We can say they play Kendrick and J. Cole on radio all the time, real hiphop is still played. No people with hits are played.

"Fight The Power" got heavy rotation on MTV. So did "Mama Said Knock You Out"...."Check Yourself" by Cube...."Method Man". During the day, prime time MTV. No, they didn't play the "pop" hits off those albums. Well they did, obviously, but not exclusively. You would see everything from 3rd Bass to Supercat during those "blocks", neither of which had much mainstream appeal.

People seem to forget that the "Drakes" and "Lil Waynes" of the early/mid 90's are people like Wu-Tang and LL and Cube. They were the mainstream acts back then.

Your local radio....I dunno anything about that...but MTV? I have no idea what you're talking about honestly, when it comes to MTV.

So yeah....I know it's cool for people (not necessarily you) to diss old heads for complaining....but in this case Chuck D is 100% spot on. Radio/video is far worse and less diverse than it was 20 years ago.

Fred.

 

[Harry B]

This isn't actually true at all. In addition to YO! MTV Raps they had "blocks" of rap music from people like LL, Cube, etc. through out the day. Also in the late 90's they had Jams. So to act like MTV or mainstream video/radio didn't play what we consider classic hip-hop until late night isn't accurate....it's down right impossible given how rap blew up in the late 80's, early 90's.

Same goes for radio. There was a late night radio show on Hot 103 Jamz that played underground/new shyt before it blew up but the Hot 8 At 8 played anything new, from De La Soul to DU, in addition to playing rap all throughout the day. And this is in Kansas City, Missouri, which obviously isn't some kind of rap mecca.

So nah. People see how things are now, and assume that's how it's always been.

Fred.

And also, HOT103, after googling it.. I can see that it's a privately owned, black radio station.
Which banned what it perceived as negative, gangster, overly sexual music in the 90s. Perhaps that it's what you need .

I would be all for it, but would it survive in New York..? With competition from Hot97 and Power 105, I doubt it.

 

[hex]

Another thing, just a random comment....people say "oh, who needs/cares about the radio, you can find whatever music you want to listen to on the internet".

Being able to find what you're looking for in a virtually limitless pool of information =/= there isn't a problem. It just means you can ignore the problem if you want to.

Fred.