Civil Rights Are For Blacks Only

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I get what he is saying but it's pretty straw militant to me. Civil Rights are rights for everyone. Black Civil Rights is often synonymous with Civil Rights due to the history and the movements. Civil Rights existed before America did.
 

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I get what he is saying but it's pretty straw militant to me. Civil Rights are rights for everyone. Black Civil Rights is often synonymous with Civil Rights due to the history and the movements. Civil Rights existed before America did.

so basically, blacks took all of burden for others to reap all the benefits. nah, fukk that. jews got reparations, indians got casinos, and they give us section 8 and EBT -- nah, fukk that.

gays, mexicans, feminist weren't brought over here to be tortured, raped, slaved for hundreds of years just so some fakkit or mexican who came over here yesterday can claim they've got the same struggle. :pacspit:
 

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Wetbacks,Gays,women and foreigners are all discriminated against

Civil Rights isnt just for blacks
 

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so basically, blacks took all of burden for others to reap all the benefits. nah, fukk that. jews got reparations, indians got casinos, and they give us section 8 and EBT -- nah, fukk that.

gays, mexicans, feminist weren't brought over here to be tortured, raped, slaved for hundreds of years just so some fakkit or mexican who came over here yesterday can claim they've got the same struggle. :pacspit:

I get what you're saying. I hate when they do that too. What I'm saying is the phrase "civil rights" in its most divine, purest forme has nothing to do with blacks in America. Civil Rights by definition is the rights of citizens to political and social freedom and equality.
African Americans didn't invent. AMERICANS didn't even invent it.
 

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Wetbacks,Gays,women and foreigners are all discriminated against

Civil Rights isnt just for blacks

gays being discriminated against :rudy: stop it. comparing their plight to ours is offensive to the core
 

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so basically, blacks took all of burden for others to reap all the benefits. nah, fukk that. jews got reparations, indians got casinos, and they give us section 8 and EBT -- nah, fukk that.

gays, mexicans, feminist weren't brought over here to be tortured, raped, slaved for hundreds of years just so some fakkit or mexican who came over here yesterday can claim they've got the same struggle. :pacspit:

I've never seen such a starved historical scope before.

I respect the black struggle, but it's not the only struggle, ever:

Here's the gays:

Timeline of LGBT history - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's the Mexicans:

History of Mexican Americans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's the women's rights struggle:

We Are Woman: The History of Women's Rights in the United States

Includes lynchings and all. Maybe if you read past your high school history course you'd know some of these things.
 

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I've never seen such a starved historical scope before.

I respect the black struggle, but it's not the only struggle, ever:

and nobody said blacks were the only ones to have a struggle. :what: i said our struggles are NOT the same, our history is NOT the same. the way we're treated is NOT the same.

the way i see it, y'all just piggy backing off the body of dead civil rights leaders. while we're still the most disenfranchised racial group in america.
 

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gays being discriminated against :rudy: stop it. comparing their plight to ours is offensive to the core

ARE YOU GONNA :pacspit: AT HUEY NEWTON, BROTHER?

Looking Back at Huey Newton’s Thoughts on Gay Rights…In the Wake of Obama’s Endorsement « Davey D's Hip Hop Corner-(The Blog)

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During the past few years strong movements have developed among women and among homosexuals seeking their liberation. There has been some
uncertainty about how to relate to these movements.

Whatever your personal opinions and your insecurities about
homosexuality and the various liberation movements among homosexuals
and women (and I speak of the homosexuals and women as oppressed
groups), we should try to unite with them in a revolutionary fashion.
I say ” whatever your insecurities are” because as we very well know,
sometimes our first instinct is to want to hit a homosexual in the
mouth, and want a woman to be quiet. We want to hit a homosexual in
the mouth because we are afraid that we might be homosexual; and we
want to hit the women or shut her up because we are afraid that she
might castrate us, or take the nuts that we might not have to start
with.

We must gain security in ourselves and therefore have respect and
feelings for all oppressed people. We must not use the racist attitude
that the White racists use against our people because they are Black
and poor. Many times the poorest White person is the most racist
because he is afraid that he might lose something, or discover
something that he does not have. So you’re some kind of a threat to
him. This kind of psychology is in operation when we view oppressed
people and we are angry with them because of their particular kind of
behavior, or their particular kind of deviation from the established
norm.

Remember, we have not established a revolutionary value system; we are
only in the process of establishing it. I do not remember our ever
constituting any value that said that a revolutionary must say
offensive things towards homosexuals, or that a revolutionary should
make sure that women do not speak out about their own particular kind
of oppression. As a matter of fact, it is just the opposite: we say
that we recognize the women’s right to be free. We have not said much
about the homosexual at all, but we must relate to the homosexual
movement because it is a real thing. And I know through reading, and
through my life experience and observations that homosexuals are not
given freedom and liberty by anyone in the society. They might be the
most oppresed people in the society.

And what made them homosexual? Perhaps it’s a phenomenon that I don’t
understand entirely. Some people say that it is the decadence of
capitalism. I don’t know if that is the case; I rather doubt it. But
whatever the case is, we know that homosexuality is a fact that
exists, and we must understand it in its purest form: that is, a
person should have the freedom to use his body in whatever way he
wants.

That is not endorsing things in homosexuality that we wouldn’t view as
revolutionary. But there is nothing to say that a homosexual cannot
also be a revolutionary. And maybe I’m now injecting some of my
prejudice by saying that “even a homosexual can be a revolutionary.”
Quite the contrary, maybe a homosexual could be the most
revolutionary.

When we have revolutionary conferences, rallies, and demonstrations,
there should be full participation of the gay liberation movement and
the women’s liberation movement. Some groups might be more
revolutionary than others. We should not use the actions of a few to
say that they are all reactionary or counterrevolutionary, because
they are not.

We should deal with the factions just as we deal with any other group
or party that claims to be revolutionary. We should try to judge,
somehow, whether they are operating in a sincere revolutionary fashion
and from a really oppressed situation. (And we will grant that if they
are women they are probably oppressed.) If they do things that are
unrevolutionary or counterrevolutionary, then criticize that action.
If we feel that the group in spirit means to be revolutionary in
practice, but they make mistakes in interpretation of the
revolutionary philosophy, or they do not understand the dialectics of
the social forces in operation, we should criticize that and not
criticize them because they are women trying to be free. And the same
is true for homosexuals. We should never say a whole movement is
dishonest when in fact they are trying to be honest. They are just
making honest mistakes. Friends are allowed to make mistakes. The
enemy is not allowed to make mistakes because his whole existence is a
mistake, and we suffer from it. But the women’s liberation front and
gay liberation front are our friends, they are our potential allies,
and we need as many allies as possible.

We should be willing to discuss the insecurities that many people have
about homosexuality. When I say “insecurities,” I mean the fear that
they are some kind of threat to our manhood. I can understand this
fear. Because of the long conditioning process which builds insecurity
in the American male, homosexuality might produce certain hang-ups in
us. I have hang-ups myself about male homosexuality. But on the other
hand, I have no hang-up about female homosexuality. And that is a
phenomenon in itself. I think it is probably because male
homosexuality is a threat to me and female homosexuality is not.

We should be careful about using those terms that might turn our
friends off. The terms “fakkit” and “punk” should be deleted from our
vocabulary, and especially we should not attach names normally
designed for homosexuals to men who are enemies of the people, such as
Nixon or Mitchell. Homosexuals are not enemies of the people.

We should try to form a working coalition with the gay liberation and
women’s liberation groups. We must always handle social forces in the
most appropriate manner.
 

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I've never seen such a starved historical scope before.

I respect the black struggle, but it's not the only struggle, ever:

Here's the gays:

Timeline of LGBT history - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's the Mexicans:

History of Mexican Americans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's the women's rights struggle:

We Are Woman: The History of Women's Rights in the United States

Includes lynchings and all. Maybe if you read past your high school history course you'd know some of these things.

So I guess the questions is, do you think it's fair/just/ok to compare the black civil rights movement with the other movements you listed?
 
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