Clark Kent says Biggie's dead because 2pac lied

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It’s crazy how nikkas will deny any accountability from Biggie from the beginning to the end but then turn around and say Pac fans are the ones that do it. The lack of self awareness is astonishing. And @FreshAIG u disappointed me in this thread my boy. Lol
 

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I need to know the lie. Cause he’s mentioned Jack and Jimmy since the Vibe interview. He clearly said he felt Biggie knew what was goin down and didn’t warn him. If u wanna go by E Money Bags saying something. Pac didn’t HAVE to believe him if he felt the opposite and it’s not like Biggie made it any easier based on how he was moving. So what was the flat out lie? Cause Pac ain’t start dissing Biggie or going on an interview campaign until after he got out of jail and Biggie got DPG trailer shot up.
Because Pac stopped dealing in reality bro; whether he really believed it or ran with the lie intentionally. When you're told by multiple people, especially the nikka that got hit along with you on the same night that it wasn't from Big & he had nothing to do with it; then it's time to come to terms. He & Cease tried to visit him in the hospital & brought his hammer back to him & that visit to Riker's should've squashed any potential issues
 

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Because Pac stopped dealing in reality bro; whether he really believed it or ran with the lie intentionally. When you're told by multiple people, especially the nikka that got hit along with you on the same night that it wasn't from Big & he had nothing to do with it; then it's time to come to terms. He & Cease tried to visit him in the hospital & brought his hammer back to him & that visit to Riker's should've squashed any potential issues
Pac reached out to Biggie personally. Pac was going thru a lot mentally at that point. Biggie is the one who was denying those calls. I know if I wanna clear some shyt up wit my boy cause I know he going thru some hard shyt. Imma make sure I speak to that man. Biggie moved like he gave zero shyts about Pac. But u can’t be running around calling a nikka a liar if that’s what HE truly believed. And the nikka himself is making the shyt even worse by the actions he’s taking.
 

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These dikk heads refuse to let Big and Puff take responsibility for their actions. :laff:

Go to California, associate with the gang bangers involved in your rivals death, get murked and act surprised. :laff:

But blame Pac my NY brethren.

Pac did lie tho that’s the point…
 

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If someone slips on a banana peel in NY they blame Pac.

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Pac did lie tho that’s the point…

Look, I wasn't there when Pac got shot and all we ever get is biased accounts of what happened, so we will never truly know that truth. But that doesn't change the fact that Puff and Big went to California slandering Pac all over the radio in his home turf, which was fukking stupid.

On top of that he was associated with the same people responsible for Pac getting killed and they knew this and still went out there? :gucci:

How stupid can you be :laff:
 

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Pac reached out to Biggie personally. Pac was going thru a lot mentally at that point. Biggie is the one who was denying those calls. I know if I wanna clear some shyt up wit my boy cause I know he going thru some hard shyt. Imma make sure I speak to that man. Biggie moved like he gave zero shyts about Pac. But u can’t be running around calling a nikka a liar if that’s what HE truly believed. And the nikka himself is making the shyt even worse by the actions he’s taking.
We don't know what was going through Big's head either. He could've felt some way after being turned away from visiting him in the hospital. It works both ways bro. And even if Big wasn't a good friend in that moment, he didn't deserve to be tied into Quad with that lie pushed because he had nothing to do with it. Like I said a before, between trying to visit him in the hospital & the Riker's visit, that should've cleared any misconceptions Pac had in regards to Big with that. Pac could've easily corrected himself or said he spoke before getting all the facts or more info but as his people said, he wasn't the type to do that
 

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We don't know what was going through Big's head either. He could've felt some way after being turned away from visiting him in the hospital. It works both ways bro. And even if Big wasn't a good friend in that moment, he didn't deserve to be tied into Quad with that lie pushed because he had nothing to do with it. Like I said a before, between trying to visit him in the hospital & the Riker's visit, that should've cleared any misconceptions Pac had in regards to Big with that. Pac could've easily corrected himself or said he spoke before getting all the facts or more info but as his people said, he wasn't the type to do that
Biggie wasn’t the one with bullets in him. U can’t pull that card here. I’m not saying Pac deserves no blame but to put ALL the blame on him and none on Biggie is bugged out and makes no sense. shyt could’ve been worked out better on BOTH ends. Pac ain’t tie Biggie into shyt until after he got on Death Row. He went harder at Stretch than Biggie in that first Vibe interview. Biggie was being a terrible friend. No other way about it.
 

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One thing I will say about Big is that he knew he was just a rapper and he was in a lane filled with people really bout it bout it behind the scenes. Pac, on the other hand, thought that talking about it made him on the same level as these peeps and he caught bullets for it.

Ironically the same could be said of Big in LA as he was obviously feeling himself but whilst Pac was still stomping around he was more grounded in reality. Not that it had any effect on Pac as he kept going at street cats after getting set up anyway but something to consider about their characters.
 

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Look, I wasn't there when Pac got shot and all we ever get is biased accounts of what happened, so we will never truly know that truth. But that doesn't change the fact that Puff and Big went to California slandering Pac all over the radio in his home turf, which was fukking stupid.

On top of that he was associated with the same people responsible for Pac getting killed and they knew this and still went out there? :gucci:

How stupid can you be :laff:

How stupid can I Be? See this the type of shyt bozos like you can’t even have a discussion on a major event like this…

Of course Puff and Big did themselves no favors going to Cali when folk told them not too… I get Bigs point because in his mind he ain’t have shyt to do with why Pac got shot and him having a close relationship with Pac he thought shyt was gravy…

Folk who was there back then including myself all knew Pac was a delusional ass nikka of the highest order…

Like I said the whole point was Pac lied period which led to Big getting blasted because he thought it was all good in LA…
 

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Ive said so much on this site that came from being on the street, knowing circles in hip hop during that time, to the point that my dog was BIGs road manager until he got fired for ripping BIG off.

BIG did NOT have it like that to be ordering hits on anyone.

The niqqas I know who used to roll around BIG? THEM NIQQAS? :childplease:

Hell NO! He didnt have it to push buttons for the goons I know who circled BIG. And for people to buy into Pac saying he put a hit on someone? He was a low level drug dealer who happened to be a great MC. He wasnt a mover of goons. I know some of the goons that were around BIG. They operated on a whole other level that wasnt in BIGs capacity to move them around like chess pieces.

Tutt is a legendary NYC street goon. Same with Haitian Jack who was in Love People, the shower posse watering hole night club in Crown Heights, every weekend.

BIG had ZERO sway over those dudes. Whose fault is it that Pac was dumb enough to think BIG could protect him from those level goons? He couldn’t even protect his own pockets from my man. :heh:

That shyt from Pac always rubbed me the wrong way because BIG was not a shot caller. I didnt even know BIG but knew some of his circle and could see it from my vantage point. He was in NO position to protect anyone from harm from hardened goons even Mike Tyson told Pac to stay away from. :camby:
 
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Biggie wasn’t the one with bullets in him. U can’t pull that card here. I’m not saying Pac deserves no blame but to put ALL the blame on him and none on Biggie is bugged out and makes no sense. shyt could’ve been worked out better on BOTH ends. Pac ain’t tie Biggie into shyt until after he got on Death Row. He went harder at Stretch than Biggie in that first Vibe interview. Biggie was being a terrible friend. No other way about it.
Nah bro, those are excuses for Pac's behavior. We gotta keep it a buck. He was told to his face Big had nothing to do with what happened to him; and by the nikka who was shot with along with him. It doesn't matter how he felt, the reality is Big had nothing to do with it & tying him into the Quad was not only lie, but it was wrong on all levels which snow balled into the other bullshyt from both sides. There's no getting around that no matter how many calls Big ducked from him. I can feel some way about a certain situation, but if I'm corrected & told to my face by the nikkas directly/indirectly involved, then I'm wrong & that's reality. I can't keep believing in something just because I feel a certain way when I was told otherwise. I just have to be man enough to take that shyt on the chin, correct myself & keep it moving
 
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As long as Suge and Puffy had an issue, those bullets that were meant for Puff could have still landed on Big in the exact same way, whether he and Pac ever had an issue or not. Pac was dead by that point. If I am beefing with a dude and that dude dies, I am not going around his people, even if I had nothing to do with it, because I already know what it is. And Big played it wrong. He could have been on the positive "let's come together" type steeze that Snoop was on (later on), but he played it "too cool for school" and was nonchalant when out west. It wasn't his fault he died, but he lacked basic awareness to not be in that situation from jump.
 

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Ive said so much on this site that came from being on the street, knowing circles in hip hop during that time, to the point that my dog was BIGs road manager until he got fired for ripping BIG off.

BIG did NOT have it like that to be ordering hits on anyone.

The niqqas I know who used to roll around BIG? THEM NIQQAS? :childplease:

Hell NO! He didnt have it to push buttons for the goons I know who circled BIG. And for people to buy into Pac saying he put a hit on someone? He was a low level drug dealer who happened to be a great MC. He wasnt a mover of goons. I know some of the goons that were around BIG. They operated on a whole other level that wasnt in BIGs capacity to move them around like chess pieces.

Tutt is a legendary NYC street goon. Same with Haitian Jack who was in Love People, the shower posse watering hole night club in Crown Heights every weekend.

BIG had ZERO sway over those dudes. Whose fault is it that Pac was dumb enough to think BIG could protect him from those level goons? He couldn’t even protect his own pockets from my man. :heh:

That shyt from Pac always rubbed me the wrong way because BIG was not a shot caller. I didnt even know BIG but knew some of his circle and could see it from my vantage point. He was no
position to protect anyone from harm from those hardened goons even Mike Tyson told Pac to stay away from. :camby:

And that’s why I said Pac was a wild delusional ass nikka… lmaoo
 
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