Class-reductionism, or the "Capitalism is the foundation of white supremacy" narrative

[MischievousMonkey]

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[EndDomination]

A little (?) difference I would note in regards of the quote in bold: it appears that when, let's say, the Ancient Greeks for example, were viewing other "European" people, such as the "English" or the Gallic, as barbarians (a word that originally came from them not understanding their language ), they judged them as uncivilized because of their cultural practices, not innate defect. That's the difference I make with racism, when you talk about "racial other".

I agree with you otherwise.

I agree, but I think it's truly hard to tell whether or not those views were based on both "culture" and inherent "barbarianism" as a part of the race of people - I don't think that the viewpoint actually existed back then. It hardened as economic and social conditions changed - and was soon embedded in culture through scientific racism and hokey anthropology.

 

[Oville]

Dope thread. I've grown a more marxist and materist lens with my analysis of the world. That being said, I don't know how anyone can see the current iterations of right wing governments across the world who seem to advocate for most class based solutiond and more of a redistributive economic model while still promoting ethno nationalism. Human beings have a proclivity to favor certain cultural affinities and it always finds its way into politics. If you try to obscure from that phenomenom, your not viewing politics through the most comprehensive lens possible.

 

[Starman]

1 Star for Commie babble.

This, but for real.

 

[Sinnerman]

Good post OP

Hell, you can look at some of the white politicians/media figures/political thinkers with left wing or borderline socialist or socialist economic views but right wing, racialist ideology

 

[CopiousX]

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[CopiousX]

As usual, it was a good write up M.M.

Capitalism doesn't even necessarily fukk with racism, for racism doesn't make sense in a capitalist system, because it makes it inefficient. Barring black workers from your capitalist company doesn't make sense economically. Preventing a major segment of people from getting richer based on an arbitrary trait is destroying a consumer base and huge market. Civil rights/integration benefited capitalism as well as its needs for constant growth, in fact, it fits in capitalist ideals. Capitalist interests were actually some of the reasons leading to the official abolition of slavery by enslaving nations.

I completely agree with this. The same could be said for communism and even modern day socialism. WS is antithetical to them all.

I had to reread your post a few times to ensure I got your message, but it seems like you are you saying that you view WS as an “add-on” to established systems. In this sense, it is a separate entity but mixed into a solution of two parts. (please correct me if I’m wrong here). I think this concept presents a wonderful new lens of analysis, with the implied objective of separating the two and disposing of the obvious waste of this solution. You may even be able abstract methods from separate disciplines (something like metallurgy or chemistry) that deal with mixed solutions to find a concrete fix to this abstract problem.