Classic Matches That You've Never Seen?

[Scottie Drippin]

I've seen plenty of Windham's work and he's overrated imo.



oh I'm fully aware of the Flair/Windham matches. you're in here on some high horse like because we are WWF/E fans we don't know anything of NWA/WCW those matches are nothing special and damn sure aren't blowing away the WWF of that time.

Barry Windham is one wrestling's unicorns. people speak of all these classics he's had, but no one can actually produce one. His matches with Flair were no better than Flair's late 80s matches with Luger, and weren't touching his matches with Steamboat

Nothings touching Flair/Steamboat, but the Flair/Windham stuff sits above the Sting/Flair (and way above the pretty actively mediocre Flair/Luger stuff) for me.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

The middle stretch of too many matches mean absolutely nothing. Just tons of meandering, plodding, filler. Not storytelling in a grand scale. Not storytelling in a combatative sense. Just, dudes doing stuff until it's time for a finishing run. Also, so much stuff was just exhaustingly formulaic. And you rarely had guys mixing up their deals to tell a story. And a lot of matches went too long for how little they were trying to accomplish. You can watch highlights of tons of that stuff and actually have a BETTER experience than watching the full match because of how much in these matches was pointless filler.

It was an era for great moments. Not for great matches. An almost inverse of the era to follow, as the Next Generation era of the early 90's has tons of low key fun matches and some straight up great stuff, but almost all of it entirely inconsequential from an importance standpoint. But the matches were absolutely better.

you know what? i'm sorry i rushed to judgement before about you. i know exactly what you mean by all of this.

but you know what? i don't really mind the filler. the presentation and the characters are all so great that it just sucks me right in. even the random holds and the "plodding" as you put it are exciting to me because of how well the announce team would put it all over. it feels larger than life.

i will take the 80's style WWF over the current WWE any day.

 

[Tha_Mac]

Taker - HBK WM 25
I saw the rematch at 26 tho

 

[Riley Escobar]

if you have the WWE Network OR internet access to YOUTUBE and you have not seen Hogan/Andre or Bret/Austin
@Silkk
you too @Riley Escobar

why the fukk am I tagged in this, I've seen both of them

I should get around to watching the Flair/Steamboat ish though, agreed

 

[Alexander The Great]

why the fukk am I tagged in this, I've seen both of them

I should get around to watching the Flair/Steamboat ish though, agreed

that's what i meant

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Most if not All of the great NWA matches I havent seen. I was a WWF kid ... Didn't start watching the "other guys" until the Monday night wars started.

 

[luckyse7enz]

Taker - HBK WM 25
I saw the rematch at 26 tho

 

[Jmare007]

aside from Flair/Steamboat please post these classic great matches featuring Barry Windham and Sting.

Not gonna make a case for Sting in the 80's

Windham though?

vs Harley Race in Florida (83'? can't remember)
vs Flair at Battle of The Belts II
vs Flair Crocket Cup
vs Flair January 87'
vs dikk Murdoch in Mid-South
w/Luger vs Arn & Tully at Clash of the Champions I
vs Tully in 88'

Those are all great matches. With the Flair ones being certified classics on my book


There's also a pretty good Ron Bass match from Florida.

 

[Jmare007]

I've seen plenty of Windham's work and he's overrated imo.



oh I'm fully aware of the Flair/Windham matches. you're in here on some high horse like because we are WWF/E fans we don't know anything of NWA/WCW those matches are nothing special and damn sure aren't blowing away the WWF of that time.

Barry Windham is one wrestling's unicorns. people speak of all these classics he's had, but no one can actually produce one. His matches with Flair were no better than Flair's late 80s matches with Luger, and weren't touching his matches with Steamboat

I gotta disagree here. Before Barry, Flair wasn't working a fast-pace 30-40 minute match against no one (maaaybe the Battle of the Belts I match against Wahoo?) and he found in Windham someone who could work toe to toe with him in a higher pace without losing quality.

Hell, you can see how Naitch changes the way he works against Steamboat in Chi Town Rumble and Wrestle War compared to their matches in 84', and he was doing that style of matches against Barry years earlier.

I really don't see what's the big drop off between the series with Windham and the one with Steamer.

I do agree that Windham wasn't the best "big show" wrestler out there though, but that doesn't hold much weight with me

 

[Jmare007]

Nothings touching Flair/Steamboat, but the Flair/Windham stuff sits above the Sting/Flair (and way above the pretty actively mediocre Flair/Luger stuff) for me.

Luger vs Flair at Starrcade 88' hold up against any match for me to be honest. I wouldn't call it better than other Flair classics but it certainly belongs in the elite of his title defenses imo.

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

anything NWA related

anything ECW related

a lot of the TNA classics as well

 

[Grifter]

Not a "classic" but I've never seen HBK vs Stone COld at KoTR.

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

Not a "classic" but I've never seen HBK vs Stone COld at KoTR.

pretty good match, even with the dq finish.

for the thread, i don't think i've entirely watched Bret Hart vs Bob Backlund

 

[Jmare007]

On topic: Never seen the Joe vs Angle matches.

 

[CJ]

Thought I'd be the only one that hadn't watched any of the Flair/Steamboat matches

I remember attempting a few times though, none exceeding a couple of minutes.