Claudia Jordan gives coli nikkas a piece of her mind..

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For sure, but when that’s pointed some men dance around the topic. A lot of women AND men ignore the people who would be good for them, and swing back around to the good types later. It’s just more costly for us as women because we’re the ones left with the kid if we aren’t careful.
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Watch them call me “pick me “ or blue pill beta simp
 

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Ciara is no way leaving Russ

She goes from hanging in the same clubs, same smoke/drink atmosphere with future, bow wow, and others

To visiting the White House, meeting Obama/Michelle, opening up non profit organizations and becoming a wife and mother to a good dude , no 36 plus year old woman turning that down ..

That’s like these regular single moms who are 35 plus and was only dealing with ex cons, deadbeat living with they mamas baby daddies, or broke weed heads who sleeping on they couch smoking weed and eating they kid fruit loops cereals

U think if a single mom who’s 35 plus come in contact with a brother with a decent job, his own spot, car and no kids that she wouldn’t do anything to keep that nikka for life..

I’ve been through it and others I know and I know coli dudes been through it
 

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Can’t say that he is or isn’t, but dated/married a subpar white girl, from interviews back when he was in college and early on he had the personality of drying paint, i don’t think he’s shielding his true persona, because even when he tries to come off as “hip” lately, it seems strained and not natural, he’s not a prototype he’s a guy, that benefited from Ciara giving him some flavor, and Ciara benefited by now being able to say she’s validated, some one picked her, some one goes out their way to publicly admonish her.

Look nothing is wrong with Russ our biggest complaint in all this is there are a set of women that choose certain types of dudes, and when their looks fade, when they up 1 or more kids, possibly from one or more dudes now they will give the nikka who had a snowballs chance in hell a shot, we are not pulling this from thin air, and you know it.

We not about to act like there wasn’t a point where her and future was goals, for a lot of women, shyt it’s still women who wants a future that acts like a Russ
#1 There are very few women who can pull this off. If they have the legitimate natural beauty to be able to pull this off, hey 🤷🏾‍♀️. Again, a very, very small subset of women can do this.

#2 Did anyone ever stop and think there might be certain men who feel bold or confident enough to get at certain women when they are younger?
Because I will say from experience that there were guys that I was cool with who I assumed only saw me as a friend who literally only expressed interest after they completed school, bought the house, etc. Old friends from school or work who disappeared and randomly reached out, etc. Or randomly popping up to find out if you’re single as opposed to just asking you out when they want you and not waiting until down the line.

Like, one of my girl’s cousins literally hit me up during the pandemic to let me know how his career was going and that he bought a new house, and then starting talking about how he always “liked how I carried myself blah blah”.

And I’m sitting here thinking oh nah, soooooo where was this energy before?

Some dudes actually see you dating other people or literally will not come around until they think certain things are lined up when they could’ve said something earlier. Most of us women are not approaching men and we don’t know if you’re interested if you literally don’t say something. Some of us need to do a better job picking amongst the men who do approach us, yes, but there are a lot of guys who see someone they know/want, or at least have some interest in, and don’t say anything until later.

That girl may have been down to ride through life with you if you actually said something, but many times the bold guys who say something are also the not so great guys, and it takes time to figure that out.

For example, I had a dude randomly start talking to me about how he took over his mother’s bills, etc and I’m like “well that’s so sweet” (and it is genuinely awesome). But I’m sitting here like “why is this white man telling me this” and it took me a few seconds to realize “Uh, he’s trying to tell you he’s got it, without blatantly telling you he’s got it”. Lol
 

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Facts

Watch them call me “pick me “ or blue pill beta simp
Well thank you for being real!!
This is the only thing I want people to be honest about. We AAAAALL are attracted to the wrong types for a bit, but if we were socialized properly we would know when to turn it off and choose the right partner, like other communities. Act a fool when you’re young and clean it up before you’re old.

We aren’t taught that, and women carry the burden for exiting the game too late, with kids, etc. That’s the key thing that Black girls aren’t taught. There are double standards that hit women harder, but men are out here ignoring the good girls as much as women are ignoring the good guys.

The issue is the attractive women and popular/successful men playing the games. If all the “overlooked” i.e. average folks got in where they fit in we wouldn’t be having these issues on this scale.
 

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What I don't understand is how dudes in the manosphere hold Future in high esteem when it's well known that Baby-Mamas eat through one's financial portfolio like nothing else. When Future's music career tanks, and it eventually will, those Baby-Mamas will still be leaching off his bank accounts as if he were at the peak of his career.
 

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#1 There are very few women who can pull this off. If they have the legitimate natural beauty to be able to pull this off, hey 🤷🏾‍♀️. Again, a very, very small subset of women can do this.

#2 Did anyone ever stop and think there might be certain men who feel bold or confident enough to get at certain women when they are younger?
Because I will say from experience that there were guys that I was cool with who I assumed only saw me as a friend who literally only expressed interest after they completed school, bought the house, etc. Old friends from school or work who disappeared and randomly reached out, etc. Or randomly popping up to find out if you’re single as opposed to just asking you out when they want you and not waiting until down the line.

Like, one of my girl’s cousins literally hit me up during the pandemic to let me know how his career was going and that he bought a new house, and then starting talking about how he always “liked how I carried myself blah blah”.

And I’m sitting here thinking oh nah, soooooo where was this energy before?

Some dudes actually see you dating other people or literally will not come around until they think certain things are lined up when they could’ve said something earlier. Most of us women are not approaching men and we don’t know if you’re interested if you literally don’t say something. Some of us need to do a better job picking amongst the men who do approach us, yes, but there are a lot of guys who see someone they know/want, or at least have some interest in, and don’t say anything until later.

That girl may have been down to ride through life with you if you actually said something, but many times the bold guys who say something are also the not so great guys, and it takes time to figure that out.

For example, I had a dude randomly start talking to me about how he took over his mother’s bills, etc and I’m like “well that’s so sweet” (and it is genuinely awesome). But I’m sitting here like “why is this white man telling me this” and it took me a few seconds to realize “Uh, he’s trying to tell you he’s got it, without blatantly telling you he’s got it”. Lol
Trying to say it’s a small set of women doing this, is disingenuous, if it was such a small number multiple dudes wouldn’t have this gripe, giving anecdotal scenarios that are near and dear to you, don’t replace what I and many more in this thread have said, yes some nikkas go after some women, yes some nikkas always been that nikka and just get the baddie, but this ain’t about that, we are talking a specific scenario that has constantly played out
 

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Well thank you for being real!!
This is the only thing I want people to be honest about. We AAAAALL are attracted to the wrong types for a bit, but if we were socialized properly we would know when to turn it off and choose the right partner, like other communities. Act a fool when you’re young and clean it up before you’re old.

We aren’t taught that, and women carry the burden for exiting the game too late, with kids, etc. That’s the key thing that Black girls aren’t taught. There are double standards that hit women harder, but men are out here ignoring the good girls as much as women are ignoring the good guys.

The issue is the attractive women and popular/successful men playing the games. If all the “overlooked” i.e. average folks got in where they fit in we wouldn’t be having these issues on this scale.

One thing I heard and I totally agree with

White Women and Asian Women slut it up better than anyone else but by their junior/senior year of college they start looking for a husband and start building a family early on

Black Women was taught by generation X black women to go to college and live it up on some hot girl shyt and get your degree, then get your career started and have your own place and car and then find a husband… by that fukking time you 30 plus years old and your eggs starting to be fried and more than likely u already have a child or two in the picture. Then u wonder at 35/40/45 years old with kids that u don’t have a ring on your finger

Generation X sisters the 50, 40 year olds has destroyed a lot of our sisters mindset on priorities
 

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I don’t even think it’s necessary to go through a hoe phase, but if you do, there is a way to do it.
All this shyt goes back to the lack of our family structure. These are lessons you’re supposed to be taught.
Again, everyone knows White girls get it in. No one knows that more than White men. But their mothers teach them when to stop the games, get serious, what to look for, and what not to do. I’ve literally watched these rich ass white women take their daughters to the “doctor” for a visit (i.e. abortion). As long as you clean it up by a certain age and don’t get knocked up you’re still in there.

Our community doesn’t teach ANY of that. Girls go in thinking the guys are being honest and love them, aren’t taught to vet properly for the future, aren’t being taught what a man is supposed to be, aren’t being taught what WE need to be for the right type of man, etc. So girls get pregnant instead of demanding protection, pop out kids, not wanting an abortion, and realizing after it’s too late that marriage comes first for a reason.

I think a lot of people do not want to acknowledge and place the blame where it belongs: ON THE ELDERS.
We have a generation of BW who didn’t tell their daughters how life really goes and a generation of BM who didn’t tell their daughters the truth about their relationships with the mothers and how to move better.

Ciara herself comes from married parents, like Beyoncé. And I’m sure Beyoncé’s parents disliked JayZ as much as Ciara’s disliked Future. The difference is Bey’s family sat her ass down and said “under no circumstances will you get knocked up out of wedlock and embarrass us the way Solange did”. Ciara didn’t get that warning so she was moving like things were sweet because she was engaged.
People have to accept responsibility at some point and BW seem to always want to avoid but overall I agree lol. Its like womb management skipped our generation or two these last 30 years and its getting worse. When I was younger, the white girls were getting it in earlyyyy BUT even at the sign of first BF they were put on birth control by even their parents. Mom would give them condoms and they would even invite you to the house for dinner, allow you in they room with door closed, etc. Would be mad uncomfortable but looking back they basically managed the situation and gave adult respect and that allowed daughter to be comfortable making decisions young. On the flip side, when with a black chick even at young age it was assumed I was more experienced and given free reign to make all decisions on her womb. Very rarely would a girl ask if I had a condom and at my young age I knew if she didnt ask me, she probably didnt ask the next dude. Leaving your womb open at that young age for any dude just having fun is no bueno and will end in many situations we see all to often.

Whats even worse is now with social media seeing women say they didnt know men had a problem with them having kids prior. Those types of statements whether they be disengenious or the truth show that even those women who end up in that situation are teaching next generation to not move in same way. I cant tell you the excuses I have heard about the different contraceptives and why they dont use them, oh I gain weight if Im on it (oh wait til u see the weight you gain when you pregnant). I remember a women with 2 kids like 21 at the time told me she was allergic to condoms but wasnt on anything, even at my young age that type of stuff blew my mind. There are soooo many stories like that I can remember its mind blowing looking back on it with these current conversations and perspective.
 

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One thing I heard and I totally agree with

White Women and Asian Women slut it up better than anyone else but by their junior/senior year of college they start looking for a husband and start building a family early on

Black Women was taught by generation X black women to go to college and live it up on some hot girl shyt and get your degree, then get your career started and have your own place and car and then find a husband… by that fukking time you 30 plus years old and your eggs starting to be fried and more than likely u already have a child or two in the picture. Then u wonder at 35/40/45 years old with kids that u don’t have a ring on your finger

Generation X sisters the 50, 40 year olds has destroyed a lot of our sisters mindset on priorities
This is VERY true. Which is why I said people are harping on young girls like people are born knowing what to do.

These white girls get the play-by-play from mom AND dad so they can marry well and go on with life. Black girls are basically taught no one is coming to make sure you’re taken care of so you better be able to fend for yourself before you marry someone who is going to cheat on you anyway 😆

One of my uncles had to pull me aside and hip me to the game. He was like “No, you’re actually pretty. You can get someone to take care of you. Stay in the gym and keep your looks together” 🤣🤣

I saw chicks marrying into my family with no degrees/career and I was like “Hold up. Y’all taught us the wrong stuff”. Not saying a woman can’t be about her business, but there are a lot of older Black women who don’t guide Black girls, and there are older Black men who grew up watching their mothers grind so they tell their own daughters to do the same thing.

I won’t front, someone in my fam who is quite successful himself told me (this was when I was younger) “yea stay on track, finish your masters, you can complete a PhD by 30…my wife and I are very comfortable but that’s because we’re both contributing financially”. But then I look across the country to another relative who is his same age who got married and has maintained a stay at home wife for like 15+ years. Guess who’s still married? The one with the stay at home wife.

So it’s like the people who prioritized the old school ways are still making it work, while everyone else is telling the girls to grind it out. Everyone on that tip is divorced unless they’re older. Now I have cousins older than me, gained weight, still looking for marriage and I had to stop and look around like y’all taught everyone to focus on career and money when you should’ve been telling us to focus on marriage. A lot of mothers did not keep it real with daughters and that has contributed to where we are. Like I said, one of my uncles stopped the train and pointed out some of the things you’ve mentioned here because he keeps it a buck, but think of how many Black women don’t have that dad, uncle, brother, etc to level with them?

And it’s not all on them; a lot of brehs were not raised to pursue marriage and be ready for that responsibility at a younger age as well. When you see White and Asian girls getting married at 25, they aren’t all marrying 35-40 year old men. Lol They’re marrying guys their age or 4-5 years older. Those cultures with old school traditions raise their sons to be education/career oriented and looking for wives in college too.

There’s a lot of stuff that needs to be straightened out in the community, but on the top of the list is the elders who sat back and watched this shyt show from the front seat without saying a word.
 

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People have to accept responsibility at some point and BW seem to always want to avoid but overall I agree lol. Its like womb management skipped our generation or two these last 30 years and its getting worse. When I was younger, the white girls were getting it in earlyyyy BUT even at the sign of first BF they were put on birth control by even their parents. Mom would give them condoms and they would even invite you to the house for dinner, allow you in they room with door closed, etc. Would be mad uncomfortable but looking back they basically managed the situation and gave adult respect and that allowed daughter to be comfortable making decisions young. On the flip side, when with a black chick even at young age it was assumed I was more experienced and given free reign to make all decisions on her womb. Very rarely would a girl ask if I had a condom and at my young age I knew if she didnt ask me, she probably didnt ask the next dude. Leaving your womb open at that young age for any dude just having fun is no bueno and will end in many situations we see all to often.

Whats even worse is now with social media seeing women say they didnt know men had a problem with them having kids prior. Those types of statements whether they be disengenious or the truth show that even those women who end up in that situation are teaching next generation to not move in same way. I cant tell you the excuses I have heard about the different contraceptives and why they dont use them, oh I gain weight if Im on it (oh wait til u see the weight you gain when you pregnant). I remember a women with 2 kids like 21 at the time told me she was allergic to condoms but wasnt on anything, even at my young age that type of stuff blew my mind. There are soooo many stories like that I can remember its mind blowing looking back on it with these current conversations and perspective.
Oh- people DEFINITELY have to accept responsibility. What I’m getting at, and what you just pointed out, is that white parents let their daughters explore their sexuality essentially under their guidance. They made sure they were aware of what was going on, so their daughters felt comfortable talking to them and doing adult things AT HOME. So they were able to learn, make mistakes, and avoid BIGGER MISTAKES because mom and dad were still involved.

In Black families, if you bring up BC, condoms, BOYS, everyone calls you “fast” or a ho. So of course the Black girls you dated didn’t know anything. They didn’t grow up in households where they were allowed to speak openly to their parents.

My family beat it into my head that the worst thing I could do was bring a child home out of wedlock. I would be disowned. So that scared me away from sex for a long time, and definitely kept me from going unprotected, because I didn’t want to shame them or myself. 🤷🏾‍♀️
 
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What I don't understand is how dudes in the manosphere hold Future in high esteem when it's well known that Baby-Mamas eat through one's financial portfolio like nothing else. When Future's music career tanks, and it eventually will, those Baby-Mamas will still be leaching off his bank accounts as if he were at the peak of his career.

plus he "adopted" his first baby mama son that is not biologically his. so all these feelings about russ being the "clean-up guy" seems misplaced, uninformed and sounds like projection tbh

i remember they used to get mad at russ trying to be a father-figure to young future as a sign of disrespect to future. clearly, he could never take it as that, he was doing the same shyt!
 

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Nah even white guys say he could do better. Even they know Ciara is an upgrade

Most qbs have better than that white or black
Thats bullshyt. Find us a QB that have a beautiful wife as Ciara or look better with a multi-million dollar empire. :comeon: Ciara isn't the usual everyday woman. She has been part of the 1% class while dating men in her level before she met Russ. Not many women are in Ciara's level.
 
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