Clippers are releasing Chris Paul (Chris Haynes)
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stepbackj34spud
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nah you wylin fam. These dudes did a hell of a lot to empower players in this current era. Dudes are getting MEGA bags because they decided the way the league did older legends was messed up. Melo has his faults but he put on to make sure this new era of players have some leverage.
Real talk, basketball reasons fukked his legacy up. He might’ve had a redemptive arc had he helped Kobe get one final ring. Instead, he’s just a fake ass Ric Flair that no one likes
Bro. Please explain fake ass Ric Flair.
ReturnOfJudah
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Lucky_Lefty
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They did a lot to get the top guys paid. That empowerment shyt is for the birds. Outside of maybe Bron, KD, Steph, and Greek, none of these nikkas got any real power to do shyt. Plus, CP0 was NBAPA Prez for the 2017 CBA, which a lot of folks felt destroyed the "NBA middle class" and led to this latest new deal being bad. That CBA hurt team flexibility, created incentive-based contracts that gave media types way too much say, and the cap spike wasn't smoothed out. That was on HIS watch (along w/ Michele Roberts).
Diondon
Thanks to the lawyers uh, I marbled the foyer
TBF, If I'm Kawhi, aint no way in hell CP0 talking to me crazy 
ReturnOfJudah
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fukkkk. let me call my pops back
LV Koopa
Jester from Hell
What "a lot of people felt" is irrelevant. CP and them boys got BRI negotiated to 51% of league revenue + extra incentives baked into the CBA. Pension and medical benefits for life for retired players.
The NBA "middle class" makes more than the supermax players made just 15 years ago. It was CP and them that mad sure this new generation of players would get giant cuts of the streaming money and future digital assets the NBA profits from. Older contracts you had owners getting TV money, franchise equity, and everything from the arena sales and merch. The players were getting hoed. I don't agree with media votes influencing NBA Contracts and the silliness of ALL-NBA teams influencing supermax contracts, but I think it's outweighed by the type of contracts available to players now.
So no, the NBA middle class isn't hurting. They make far, far more money in relative and absolute terms, plus intangibles and benefits than players 20 years ago ever would have saw. Now if you think the latest deal is bad - cool. But blame the last CBA President and co, CJ McCollum, and not Chris Paul who has been out of that seat for years now.
As for the CBA hurting team flexibility - huge lie. The main things fans complain about is the current era's forced parity with apron rules and player self-imposed Free Agency. The teams themselves don't have amnesty clauses and a weaker stretch provision that won't bail them out from stupid mistakes like in the past. If you believe a team not having enough Get Out Of Jail Free cards = reduced flexibility then so be it.
Bro. Please explain fake ass Ric Flair.
Just his tendency of being a nut puncher and the rep he got as a player that would bend the rules to get the win
Other than the NC part, I was thinking of that flopping bullshyt too.
Lucky_Lefty
Dreams Are Colder Than Death...
This point is obsolete because EVERYONE in EVERY SECTOR of sports is making more than they did 15 years ago. That's really not saying anything. Specifically for the NBA, the cap has tripled since 15 yrs ago. Players benefit because BRI grows, not because they were given a special portion of streaming money. The players’ cut of BRI stayed roughly 50–51% in the 2017 CBA, basically the same as the 2011 CBA.
Just because the middle class got paid more means there's more money in the pot to distribute. Everything rose more now because the system grew, not because mid tier players suddenly became as valuable as past superstars.
All media money (TV, streaming, digital rights) has always been lumped into BRI. So the idea that CP3 and others “secured” streaming cuts is false since the structure already existed.