CM Punk out here getting his Ass Kicked already
Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
I hear you and to be honest I wouldn't mind him winning his first couple of matches (just to hear the hype and see how simple mma fans are) but I can also understand the crowd that want to see him get got. Mma is going to look Bush league if this dude can just walk off the street and win his first match. Besides he's a racist fukker so fuk him
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
I feel what you're trying to say.... but I do disagree with the bold. CM PUNK love him or hate him isnt just some guy off the street. We already had a guy walk off the street and fight in mma and his name was Kimbo Slice. CM Punk is an athlete and make no mistake about it, real or fake... these wrestlers are athletes and they are tough to do the things they do, handle the things they have to handle, and do what they have to do under the short turn arounds and rigorous consistency. (MMA fighters, though they go through months of training, only seem to fight like 2-4 times a year. Fighting more than that is unheard of)
I dont think pro wrestling is THAT far away in distance from MMA in terms of "FIGHTING" since both there is striking and grappling tho adamantly in pro wrestling punches YES are pulled but to a degree a punch is a punch and a kick is a kick. Before this statement gets killed.... THAT FAR in comparison of saying say a pro golfer or nascar driver or tennis player saying "hey, I think I wanna leave my career and be a MMA fighter.
I think he will be alright
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
Yeah, but the training is the hard part. The fights are cake walk. You train way way harder than you fight. Wrestling is very tough too, but very different. I don't think fighters can necessarily do what pro wrestlers do, and vice versa. Punk's problem is that he has no training in combat sports. He has no bas to fall back on if it gets tough, and it will. He's not great at striking, he's not great at wrestling or judo (offensively or defensively, and he's not good at jiu-jitsu or sambo (again either offensively or defensively). It's hard in MMA on 2015 to do anything even if you're fantastic at just one of those things.
He's just old to be getting into the game. Not even on an athletic level, but on a skill set level. It takes thousands of hours to get really good at something. I've been doing jiu-jitsu forever, and I'm really good at it, but I haven't done much MMA training, and I'd get absolutely fukked up in there. I don't have experience with people throwing strikes at me with bad intentions. It's a different beast. Yeah, it can be scary to have people going hard trying to choke you out and take your arms and legs home, but there's an intensity to striking that I could see Punk having an issue with. The best thing I see see transferring from wrestling would honestly be some of the submission holds, and the ability to take punishment. A lot of pro wrestlers, especially old school guys, legit learned catch wrestling and shoot fighting.
It just takes a long time getting comfortable being hit. Some people never get there. Brock as tough as he is, was never good at eating shots to the face, and it always threw him off his game. Again, I've said this all along, but I have all the respect in the world for Punk, for trying to test himself and take this seriously. I also understand why the UFC would do it, and it's good business. It's also sort of ridiculous that Punk gets to be 0-0-0 as a record, with no history of participation in any combat sports, and get to have his first MMA fight in the world's top organization. All of those things are true. I also wish him the best, and I hope he does well.
GoddamnyamanProf
Countdown to Armageddon
No one that matters is rooting against him. Just a handful of agitated losers on a message board lol.
Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
a nascar driver is in better shape than a lot of rasslers brah so you aren't exactly helping your point. Notwithstanding whether it be a pro tennis player,nba coach, bowler or fake wrestler any one of these coming off the streets to enter ufc and winning their first bout is not a good look. And I don't know why you mention kimbo when a street fighter could easily transition into mma esp the the HW division which is technically the least skilledWould you like to bold the remaining part after that sentence
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
But he aint coming off the streets though.
Yes it may not be much (and lets be honest, we really dont know specifically to what extent) but he said he's been training BJJ for the past few years right? And he's been gone from the E for a minute now.... I'm sure before he made this big announcement he was prolly doing some training all last year. Now not to mention.... Its pretty much the beginning of 2015 and the only thing announced is "he may fight sometime LATER this year" I'm sure dude prolly will be in a lot of training camps all the way up to his 1st fight.
Again, I'm not saying he's gonna be some monster stepping in, but its not like like Dana gonna give him someone on the level of GSP his 1st fight. He's not exactly "walking off the street and into a cage" I'm sure there is and has been a lot of preparation thats been going on behind closed doors.
Now back to the Nascar thing? Hmmmm, ok... maybe a Nascar driver is in better shape than most of the divas (their wrestlers) and fat fukks like Big Show. I will concede to that.
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
Damn... pressed send too prematurely....
Back to that "other athletes coming into the sport winning they 1st match is a bad look"
I disagree with that due to context. If it was a regular athlete or guy like you say coming in beating top fighters with ease... then ok maybe that dont look so good for MMA. But we know thats not the case.
Herschal Walker who hasnt played football since 97 came into MMA and for 2 guys at a comparable level damn near 50... and one and it wasnt a black eye for MMA. CM Punk winning again some no name similar level guys like him want hurt MMA either.
Back to that "other athletes coming into the sport winning they 1st match is a bad look"
I disagree with that due to context. If it was a regular athlete or guy like you say coming in beating top fighters with ease... then ok maybe that dont look so good for MMA. But we know thats not the case.
Herschal Walker who hasnt played football since 97 came into MMA and for 2 guys at a comparable level damn near 50... and one and it wasnt a black eye for MMA. CM Punk winning again some no name similar level guys like him want hurt MMA either.
Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
those spectacles were done in other orgs, in elitists eyes low brow companies. UFC is suppose to be the premier offering in the space, which is why they should be held to different standards
Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
doing bjj as a past time and training in it for mma are 2 different things breh. I mean look at how long it took jacare to become complete hell till this day Damian maia still can't strike fir shyt.And in your statement there are a lot of "I am sures" which as we both know you aren't. I seriously doubt this has been some master plan from the beginning. Dude is being sued is unemployed and stands to make more in 1 fight than he made in a year at wwe. He needs the money and obviously has an affinity for the sport having done bjj as a hobby. I am sure some psyche will also say he is chasing the adrenaline he got from performing in front of a live audience, nothing more.
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Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
well you got me with the "I'm sures" but that was just the best way I could think to transition from point to point.... but I feel you. With that said.... we both have some polarizing perspectives... but I'M SURE the truth prolly lies somewhere in the middle between out points.
@ the "needs the money"Needs? I'm definitely gonna keep this quote on file for future use when cats on here (not you) talk about Money, the E, and other feds.... cuz per the masses... anyone that goes to the E becomes filthy rich and set for life
I do agree... dude prolly didnt have this as a master play from the beginning.... never was trying to imply that. But he has been gone for over a year now as his last match was what... Jan 2014. We all know this guy wasnt just sitting at his house, secluded never leaving and ordering delivery. This prolly wasnt a last minute decision and then 2 days later UFC made an announcement