Coli alien believers and non believers how do you feel about the Dark Forest theory?
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Bumblebreh
Collecting honey and money
Any life form would have to have an almost unlimited supply of energy at their disposal to master space travel. They would also need to survive the hostile environment of space travel. Ordinary matter cannot travel at the speed of light.
We would honestly never know because any remnants of an advance alien race would either be hidden in the darkest depths of space or be completely wiped out with little to no trace. Everything with mass and matter could be completely wiped out in seconds.
The milky way is estimated to be 13 billion years old, humanity has only begun to have a better understanding of space and physics within a century.
I do believe that there has to be a limitation on all lifeforms, and even the most advanced will most likely wipe themselves out or be wiped out by nature before they could surpass the natural order and become god like.
Field Marshall Bradley
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The foolishness that will be pervasive throughout this thread is that posters think they can talk intelligently about space travel and traversing universes.
Based on what WE know about physics. There's nothing wrong with traveling faster than the speed of light, you just can't accelerate past it. Sounds like a pointless detail, but who knows if there's a way around the barrier.
Lighten up Francis, we're just having fun speculating
I always thought it was a bad idea for scientists to send out radio signals to announce our location in space. The risk of attracting the wrong kind of attention from hostile aliens seemed too dangerous and downright ridiculous.
look at the north sentinelese and how they react to outsiders.
now look at the outside world and how they treat the north sentinelese.
its a micro-study on what potential interactions between humanity and aliens would look like.
humans are going to be automatically hostile to any alien life form that managed to cross the great gulf to get to this planet even if they're benign.
why?
because if you think about this in the context of the north sentinelese, the outside world "aliens" i.e "us" have the technology to wipe the sentinelese off the face of the earth. hell, our biology could do that without us even having to touch any weapons. they also can't gauge our intentions.
so what do we do?
leave them be and observe.
they're not a threat.
alien life form that can reach earth will most doubtedly have the technology to do damage to us and we wouldn't be able to gauge their intentions, so if there were any forreal encounters - humans are going to naturally be hostile to that - it would be a shoot first, ask questions later to 100% of the encounters. Alien life forms probably understand that - which if there are any out there, they probably are just stoicly observing, knowing at this point they have the ability to wipe us out if they so choose to but don't because we're not a threat in any capacity - like how we treat the north sentinelese.
now look at the outside world and how they treat the north sentinelese.
its a micro-study on what potential interactions between humanity and aliens would look like.
humans are going to be automatically hostile to any alien life form that managed to cross the great gulf to get to this planet even if they're benign.
why?
because if you think about this in the context of the north sentinelese, the outside world "aliens" i.e "us" have the technology to wipe the sentinelese off the face of the earth. hell, our biology could do that without us even having to touch any weapons. they also can't gauge our intentions.
so what do we do?
leave them be and observe.
they're not a threat.
alien life form that can reach earth will most doubtedly have the technology to do damage to us and we wouldn't be able to gauge their intentions, so if there were any forreal encounters - humans are going to naturally be hostile to that - it would be a shoot first, ask questions later to 100% of the encounters. Alien life forms probably understand that - which if there are any out there, they probably are just stoicly observing, knowing at this point they have the ability to wipe us out if they so choose to but don't because we're not a threat in any capacity - like how we treat the north sentinelese.
Silver Surfer
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Meant our current evolution state
What if they are demonic aliens like the Qu?
Damn, that channel has been on hiatus for almost a year
Toe Jay Simpson
Searchinā
What if they are demonic aliens like the Qu?
Breh! This one of the most depressing stories I ever heard. I done watched it like 4 times over the years
Silver Surfer
Veteran
We backThis is the sequel to the Three Body Problem right?
They need to stop playind and drop the next season
Are We āSentineleseā on Island Earth in the Ocean of Interstellar Space?
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Feb 1, 2024
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Image of North Sentinel Island from the Advanced Land Imager on NASAās Earth Observing-1 satellite on November 20, 2009
The South-African art photographer, Alon Skuy, took photos of me standing in the white Boston snow while asking about my scientific search for extraterrestrials. As we headed indoors, he noted that the reluctance of people to find extraterrestrials resembles the solitude of the indigenous Sentinelese inhabiting the North Sentinel Island, within an Indian chain of islands in the Bay of Bengal. The islanders constitute one of the few remaining hunter-gatherer tribes on Earth, having no contact with more advanced civilizations.
Image credit: Alon Skuy (January 31, 2024)
India forbids visits to the island and the Sentinelese resist attempts for contact by outsiders. In 2004, the major Aceh-Andaman Earthquake generated a devastating tsunami that uplifted the island. The Indian Coast Guard flew a reconnaissance mission to the island and the Sentinelese emerged from the forest and shot arrows at the incoming helicopter.
The Sentinelese shoot arrows at all approaching ships, irrespective of whether they visit the island on purpose or not. In 2006, Sentinelese killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore, and in 2018 a 26-year-old American named John Chau, was killed while attempting three times to establish contact with the islanders as a Christian missionary.
The response of shooting arrows at foreign visitors is reminiscent of the F-22 Raptor fighter jet shooting an AIM-9X Sidewinder missile at the Chinese spy balloon in 2023. More generally, Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenon (UAP) are regarded as potentially hostile targets in reports from the Director of National Intelligence to the US Congress.
During a recent podcast, my interviewer mentioned that a pre-interview poll indicated that a majority of his listeners worried about any encounter with extraterrestrials as an existential threat. Just like the Sentinelese they would recommend shooting our technological āarrowsā at them. In the same vein, Stephen Hawking warned that intelligent aliens would try to destroy humanity. Are we just like the Sentinelese, fearing of any interstellar visitors to our island, the Earth?
From a distant vantage point, like the NASA satellite that imaged the North Sentinel Island, the attitude of the Sentinelese appears overly aggressive and unwise, especially when dealing with outsiders that attempt to help them after an existential threat from a tsunami. Could climate change or nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists represent the `tsunamiā analog for humans on island `Earthā in the ocean of interstellar space.
A future tsunami could extinguish the Sentinelese unless they were to leave their territory in advance. Advanced satellite data could save them in time, if they would only allow helicopters to land on their island. Similarly, insisting that Earth is our only home might bring the doomsday of humanity whereas an interstellar perspective from a more advanced neighbor might save us. It would be prudent to welcome advice from those who developed technologies for more than a century.
If cosmic neighbors do reach our doorstep before we reach their doorstep, they are likely to be far more advanced than we are, offering an opportunity for us to learn from a smarter student in our class of intelligent civilizations. Hereās hoping that we will be wise enough to learn from extraterrestrials rather than attack them with our `arrowsā. Our generosity of mind will enable their far greater generosity of mind.
From a sociological standpoint, it is interesting to study whether kids on the North Sentinel Island are open minded towards visitors. This would give me hope that the future of humanity might be better than its past. Let us maintain a beginnerās mind and learn from rather than dismiss our cosmic neighbors.
Thatrogueassdiaz
We're on the blood path now
This. They once were known and lived amongst humanity in preflood times and then left. I think they visit and watch and some even live amongst humanity still but not as before. World was different before the flood.They have been here for a very long time......
