He needs to stay home , if he goes back to work they will fire himAre you trying to sue these guys while you work there?
I feel like at this point if you find a lawyer to take the case you still just want to get a nice severance package where they make you sign something that says you won't sue.
What are you going to do, go back to work there like it's all good?
And that's only really happening if they accidentally emailed about conspiring against you, since that would come out in discovery.
I don't think you have great odds but I am pulling for you breh fukk those cacs, fukk corporate and fukk HR you learned that lesson the hard way HR is the opps.
Idk what your other options are but if you make a post in 6cert brehs might have some other ideas for you. @ me if you do, I have a few more years than you in a similar industry.
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Why the fukk would u not meet with HR?
U basically working against yourself because HR is who the mediator is so when u get a lawyer and fight HR has proof that your didn't even attempt to let them even know what your issue was so how could they try to resolve it
U fukking up big time
U basically working against yourself because HR is who the mediator is so when u get a lawyer and fight HR has proof that your didn't even attempt to let them even know what your issue was so how could they try to resolve it
U fukking up big time
Hr knows exactly what is happening because they are the ones that moved him & are planning out his removal . Let the eeoc meet with hr.
Dorian Breh
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OP can clearly make the case that HR and his managers dropped the ball by never providing him his job description.
Now they want to meet and talk it out and resolve shyt because they fukked up and want him to agree it wasn't that big a deal before it becomes one.
It is clearly in HR duties and responsibilities to make sure an analyst knows his expectation and how his performance will be evaluated.
They failed at that and instead took aggressive action toward OP career.
They say "we made an attempt to talk to him but he wouldn't do it" but the fact that they took what sounds like 6 months to try to remedy this is clear evidence they are capping.
OP loses nothing by not meeting them, idk if I agree with @Strapped that they'll can him if he shows back up but I can see the benefit to starting to eat sick days and getting the plan together before showing up.
Except when he's supposed to talk. He should've gone to the meeting to hear their side but stayed vague. By not going he makes it look like he's everything they say he is. Now they're probably like "we tried to have a sit down to resolve the problem but he refused". nikka might as well start looking for a new job bc those lawyer fees ain't no joke
Dorian Breh
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They can make that argument to their manager. They can't make that argument in court.
They caused a problem, doubled down and caused another problem, and now they want a pow wow about it in "good faith"?
If he's honest, the fact pattern OP established makes it obvious why he refused to meet with HR and the judge should agree.
DragonKnight
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Please don’t shoot that bytch up man I know you thinking it
I just feel like even if nothing came of it, making it look like you tried to resolve the issue looks better in court than flat out denying a sit down. Unless he had legal actions in the works at the time they asked, there's no reason not to go. He don't have to say anything. Just show effort to rectify
you read the Op and saw he was asking for advice and you thought it would be helpful to talk about how you don’t make friends at work
But if u don't meet with HR
Even if it is just to listen to what they are about to say
It definitely will be a strike against him
I seen it happen
You have to talk to HR. You definitely have a case of some sort if you have it documented that you asked for your duties and other stuff. You also should’ve contacted HR when your request wasn’t met from the start
Dorian Breh
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From the perspective of the court, he doesn't get any "points" for taking the meeting. The court doesn't give a fukk about the company.
He gave them plenty of chances to remedy the situation and they fumbled the bag.
He's two weeks past his probation period without any closure or decision?
By not taking the meeting he's able to tell the court, "At that point I felt my ability to resolve this through the system had broken down, so I had no other course of action but to seek counsel."
From the perspective of the court, he doesn't get any "points" for taking the meeting. The court doesn't give a fukk about the company.
He gave them plenty of chances to remedy the situation and they fumbled the bag.
He's two weeks past his probation period without any closure or decision?
By not taking the meeting he's able to tell the court, "At that point I felt my ability to resolve this through the system had broken down, so I had no other course of action but to seek counsel."
I feel like these folks would have been fired me if they felt safe. They definitely don’t like me. Can’t say how strong my case is, but they definitely being careful. I feel like if they fired me now, it would only strengthen my case
Just talked to the lawyer. They told me straight up to take that meeting with HR and tell that I feel like I’m getting laid off cause I’m black
I felt like i was getting laid off cause the merger was a way to get me up out of there, but I wasn’t tripping cause I was ready to leave anyway, and this way I get severance.
And I think they technically getting rid of the role, cause I think they have to to justify laying me off, but they not getting rid of the duties. The lawyer asked who was taking over the duties and I was like some young as white bytch. She said she probably way under qualified. I said she ain’t qualified at all
Told her she was this 25 year old white girl who on in the club cause a lot of them wen to the same college and parents cool with the head operations guy
Lawyer was like
Told me to go to HR and have them explain the reasoning laying people off and tell them I feel like me being laid off is racist in origin. And that someone who is white and much less qualified is taking over my position and i had to train her some. Told me that they are merging and I could file a complaint with the sec and that wouldn’t look good. I’m sitting here like, these lawyers ain’t shyt lol. Said they may offer me a bigger severance or try to keep me on (I not staying) and that depending on what they say, it may be a case for litigation.
Don’t seem like I got a strong case on the retaliatory, but that I can get them on this lay down off shyt if they ducks ain’t in a row.
Gonna contact EEOC tomorrow too
Just talked to the lawyer. They told me straight up to take that meeting with HR and tell that I feel like I’m getting laid off cause I’m black
I felt like i was getting laid off cause the merger was a way to get me up out of there, but I wasn’t tripping cause I was ready to leave anyway, and this way I get severance.
And I think they technically getting rid of the role, cause I think they have to to justify laying me off, but they not getting rid of the duties. The lawyer asked who was taking over the duties and I was like some young as white bytch. She said she probably way under qualified. I said she ain’t qualified at all
Told her she was this 25 year old white girl who on in the club cause a lot of them wen to the same college and parents cool with the head operations guyLawyer was like
Told me to go to HR and have them explain the reasoning laying people off and tell them I feel like me being laid off is racist in origin. And that someone who is white and much less qualified is taking over my position and i had to train her some. Told me that they are merging and I could file a complaint with the sec and that wouldn’t look good. I’m sitting here like, these lawyers ain’t shyt lol. Said they may offer me a bigger severance or try to keep me on (I not staying) and that depending on what they say, it may be a case for litigation.
Don’t seem like I got a strong case on the retaliatory, but that I can get them on this lay down off shyt if they ducks ain’t in a row.
Gonna contact EEOC tomorrow too
MajesticLion
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If it's not on paper/email? It doesn't exist. So all the face-to-face stuff is moot.
Document everything.
Document everything.
That’s not necessarily true.