Coli Physics Brehs I Need Some Answers About These Stray Bullets

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The replies are frustrating, as nobody is actually answering the question. :snoop:

I think a part of me also wanted people to confirm my childhood theory that the bullets disintegrate after reaching a certain altitude :sadbron:
 

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Almost like lightning

How would anybody know:gucci:

Obviously not on people:mjlol:

2020 your c0on ass still not using your brain .

There was an episode of csi about this. If you know the angle that the bullet landed, caliber of said bullet, and wind speed around the time someone was killed (in relation to the height that said bullet could reach based on the angle and caliber), you can get a rough area of where a bullet traveled from thru algebra and find out who was responsible given who owns the land where it was fired from.

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The replies are frustrating, as nobody is actually answering the question. :snoop:

I think a part of me also wanted people to confirm my childhood theory that the bullets disintegrate after reaching a certain altitude :sadbron:

I actually laid out the odds of a falling bullet striking someone and @Tyrant explained why a falling bullet wouldn't necessarily be deadly. There's not much more to it than that.
 

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The replies are frustrating, as nobody is actually answering the question. :snoop:

I think a part of me also wanted people to confirm my childhood theory that the bullets disintegrate after reaching a certain altitude :sadbron:
No they don't. A bullet will not reach heights high enough to disappear into space before being slowed down and reversing course due to both air drag and gravity. It will start falling back to earth until it reaches terminal velocity which means the force of drag acting upwards and the force of gravity acting downward are equal and it is no longer able to gain anymore speed. The mass of a bullet is not large enough for it to reach a terminal velocity to kill someone assuming it's shot straight up and probably will just really hurt.

Where the bullets land? Who knows. Total crapshoot as again depend on the angle you launched it at and whatever unknown crosswinds that will blow it where ever. Some farmer waking around his field may see your bullet laying in his field or it may fall into a body of water or it may fall on someone's window. "Where are they falling" is a question that doesn't have just one answer breh and depends on all these factors mentioned
 

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Bullets are tiny and the amount of space on the ground taken up by humans is much smaller than everything else (buildings/cars/trees/and most of all EMPTY space/ground.
 

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The replies are frustrating, as nobody is actually answering the question. :snoop:

I think a part of me also wanted people to confirm my childhood theory that the bullets disintegrate after reaching a certain altitude :sadbron:

dumb nikka someone already said its because bullets usually land where people arent standing. :snooze:
 

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The angle is the major thing that factors if a stray bullet shot in the air is deadly. If you shoot it straight up 180 degrees relative to the ground it will most likely no kill anyone.

The strongest force acting on the trajectory and speed of the bullet is the straight downward force of gravity. Air resistance/drag is second by a big margin at those speeds.

So let's say instead of aiming 90 degrees vertically from their front, the person aims...60 degrees relative to in front of them. Well the gravitational force would work to slow it's vertical speed untill it no longer has flight and falls to the ground. However the only horizontal force acting on a bullet is drag and it will maintain it's horizontal velocity close to it's initial launch until it's travel far enough to stop being leathal. In the cases where people die it's because someone may fire it in the air but it's not perfectly straight up so it still has horizontal acceleration and speed and ends up killing someone.

This concept is discussed heavily in Newtonian physics when breaking up the horizontal and vertical components of speed and acceleration. In most physics courses you assume ideal conditions unless it's given which means it acts in a vacuum and the only forces acting on it is gravity and forces applied. In these problems, you always assume the x axis speed is constant and acceleration in the x axis is zero except at initial launch

To add to my post to better illustrate it further this explains it more simply. Notice she throws it up but not straight up. The numbers represent the velocity and you notice that the velocity as it moves through the air in the horizontal maintains 12m/s while the vertical component starts to succumb to gravity and the speed decreases causing it to fall. This is because air resistance is ignore for simplicity in illustration and there are no forces acting on it horizontally and gravity is the only force acting downward on it vertically changing the speed

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This is why it's just easier to tell idiots not to shoot their guns in the air because they are most likely drunk and acting impulsively and aren't making sure they are shooting straight into the air and probably busting shots at different angles with some having enough horizontal velocity to possible kill someone.


Everything I was going to say is right there in that quote....

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I'll also add the following to help with the visual aids​


While the image below is a boat you can draw the same free body diagram to denote a falling projectile to understand the dynamics explained above
(...really any object in motion or static can be drawn)
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The image below shows a skydiver but the principle holds if you change it to a bullet.
To understand why a bullet falling straight down is of less danger than one shot at an angle.
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As explained previously It's all vertical forces If shot straight up (most importantly the bullet comes to a vertical stop before it begins falling), in which case terminal velocity kicks in to cap falling velocity. On the other hand
If shot at an angle the horizontal velocity remains in play​
(and is the most dangerous part)​
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That's why my first question was were did she get hit.
Example: if she was hit in the upper chest and the projectile came out somewhere like her kidney area then it likely hit her at an angle. Though I'm curious if she had an exit wound at all.​
 

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I would think that the initial force of a bullet coming out of a gun is what causes it to be fatal. If you shoot a bullet in the air, I would think the speed upward would be greater than the speed downward. Essentially, the combination of air, weight, and gravity may cause a bullet to me just like an ice pellet or hail falling from the sky.
 

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There was a myth busters episode that explained this. Google it

They basically explained why it takes very specific conditions for a bullet shot in the air to be fatal and that's why it's so rare.
 

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Well thank you for such an in-depth theory Dr Obvious, I can tell it was well thought out. The question, however, is where do they fall and how is it such a rare occurrence given the amount of bullets fly up and the amount of people outside at the time.

The obvious answer is that the bullets land in random places and rarely hit people.

What did you think you would uncover?

Think about it like this:

Half the time niqqas be pointing the gun AT somebody and still miss
 
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