Coli Views on Late Term Abortion

[Pull Up the Roots]

What took so long to decide?

20 weeks is 5 months...

I guess there's a chance you didn't find out you were pregnant until like 2 months... another couple months to decide on the abortion...

I support having the option

Birth Defects

This could range from Down syndrome to anomalies incompatible with life. The generally accepted limit of viability is 24 weeks so before that gestational age abortions can happen for any reason. After 18 or so weeks the options are an induction of labor or a dilation or an evacuation (or D and E), which is a surgery. With induction it can take a few days as labor can be hard to trigger so early. If all goes well the cervix dilates and the fetus delivers. Sometimes indictions fail because you can’t always get such a premature uterus to contract. With a D and E the cervix is dilated, with the help of medication, instruments or both, and the fetus is removed. The fetus is essentially taken apart with a D and E to fit through the dilated cervix (the cervix is dilated less with a D and E than for an induction). This is no secret to the women having the procedure. This is also no ripping, there is simply surgical technique. Women know they were pregnant before the procedure and that they were not after and trust me they don’t think their doctor waved a magic wand or had a time turner.

After 24 weeks birth defects that lead to abortion are very severe and typically considered incompatible with life. These procedures are either a traditional induction, just like labor, or something that requires instrumentation. Because of the nonsensical partial birth abortion law women who wish to have a dilation and extraction (a modified technique for more advanced procedures) need to have fetal cardiac activity stopped with an injection into the uterus. Either way it’s a 2 or 3 day or even 4 process to get the cervix to dilate enough. The further along in the pregnancy, the more likely the procedure will be an induction of labor, but a skilled practitoner can do a dilation and extraction at 32 or 34 weeks. I’ve never heard of a dilation and extraction for any other reason than severe birth defects and often it is for a woman who has had two or three c-sections for whom inducing labor might pose other health hazards, like uterine rupture. Are we to force women to have c-sections for a pregnancy that is not compatible with life?

Why do some women end up with these procedures later on in their pregnancy? Sometimes it can take weeks or even longer to fully understand what is going on with the fetus. Some patients might think they can make it to term and then at 34 weeks cave and ask to be delivered because they just can’t bear one more person asking them about their baby. Do they just smile and walk away or say, “Well, actually, my baby has no brain and will die at birth?” Some women go to term and others can’t. To judge these women for requesting an early delivery is cruel on so many levels. I wrote more about it here if you are interested. Regardless, terminations for birth defects isn’t ripping “the baby out of the womb in the ninth month.” At 38 or 39 weeks it’s always an induction and is simply called a delivery.

Health of the Mother

This definitely happens between 20 and 24 weeks. The most likely scenario is ruptured membranes and an infection in the uterus. The treatment of this is delivery or the infection will spread and kill the mother, however, someone with lupus or renal disease or heart disease (for example) could have a deterioration of their health and with their providers make the decision to have a termination. After 25 weeks this would simply be a c-section or an induction of labor and the baby would go to the neonatal intensive care unit. Between 24-25 weeks there could be some leeway as conditions that are serious enough to require delivery at 24 weeks often also have devastating effects on the fetus. For example, the fetus could be so severely growth restricted making viability at 24 weeks unlikely and a woman with a severe heart condition may not elect to risk her health with a c-section for a likely non viable pregnancy and choose a termination. These are difficult and nuanced decisions and everyone is simply working together to make the best decision for the pregnant person. I don’t know where Mrs. Clinton got this “bad news at the end” of the pregnancy being about maternal health. I have only ever heard of one very late abortion for maternal health and that was for the rape of a minor by her brother and that was still not at term.

So no one is performing health of the mother abortions at 38 or 39 weeks we just do deliveries. It’s called obstetrics.

Other

Some of the 0.3% of abortions after 21 weeks will be for personal reasons. Often these are called elective abortions, but I don’t like that term. Usually this happens when it took too long to find a clinic and raise the money. These abortions happen before 24 weeks. There is no ninth month action here either.

 

[Nameischosen]

. If a woman wants to terminate her child while it's in her womb that is totally up to her. If a woman wants to terminate a child that may be birthed with severe complications mentally or physically, that is up to her. I'm pro abortion as there are social benefits that are net positive in the long run for society as a whole. That choice should never be infringed upon.

 

[Matt504]

and nikkas still don't understand why this process can be traumatic for women both physically and mentally.

 

[Milk N Cookies]

Trump don't know that you can't perform an abortion in the ninth month & yet is giving his two cents on it...

 

[Lord_nikon]

I don't like it or agree with it. I get your body your rules, but aborting that late is murder in my eyes. Only way I support it is if having the baby will physically harm you, fatally.

just put the child up for adoption for fukks sake !

 

[TRFG]

This is something you wish you never have to see

 

[Panther]

Women should be able to make that decision for themselves

 

[Capitol]

are you serious

Are you going to answer the question or not

 

[EndDomination]

Abortion up to 6.5 months
Anywhere past that, and the fetus could likely just be birthed and cared for by the hospital and the state.
Unfortunately, US state services and foster care systems are overburdened and in awful shape
I propose a federal increase of nearly a billion dollars toward state and federal child services and into the foster care system as well as an increase in the Social Worker workforce and training requirements to combat these issues.
Pro-lifers in general though

 

[wickedsm]

im not really interested in wasting alot of time on propaganda on here.

late term abortions [which are rare to begin with]

late term abortions are not always d&e, they also go ahead and induce or c-section
as a matter of fact the further in the pregnancy the more likely to induce and deliver

late term abortions are not "conveneince" or "choice" abortions

they are for severe birth defects or life or death health of the mother

there is no "well damn i couldnt get the money together until i was 6 months pregnant" abortion
or "bobby is fukkin this other bytch let me get this 7 month abortion"

To put it in perspective, 1.3 percent of abortions happen at or after 21 weeks and 80 percent are for birth defects. Put another way, 1 percent of abortions that are at or after 21 weeks and are for birth defects and 0.3 percent of abortions are at or after 21 weeks and are not for birth defects (some of these will be health of the mother and a very few will be for other indications)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...h-month-abortions_us_5808dfa2e4b0dd54ce389b61

this is a real basic article but theres loads of info out there for those of you who care to be correctly informed.

 

[Orange cream shake]

Late term abortions are insanely rarely and I'm sure they aren't done like that anymore. But w/e, breh. lol

At 5 months they can just induce labor.

 

[Paper Boi]

Late term abortions are insanely rarely and I'm sure they aren't done like that anymore. But w/e, breh. lol

shh let them believe trump was telling the truth about babies getting aborted a week before their due date.

 

[wickedsm]

I implore you all to read this article(s) and to ignore the image in the OP.

No, Late-Term Abortions Don't 'Rip' Babies Out Of Wombs -- And They Exist For A Reason

5 Facts About Late-Term Abortions That Show Why Trump's Description Was Inaccurate

thank you, posted while i was posting and talking to family
that image is just thrown out to confuse and enrage people
[not necessarilly by the Op, but wherever the source was]

 

[horizon]

Are you going to answer the question or not

why wouldn't there be a difference between late-term and early abortions

 

[Capitol]

why wouldn't there be a difference between late-term and early abortions

Stop wasting my time