Cheaper than Peyton and no where near as bad as Peyton. Win win IMO.
Colin Kaepernick's agent has requested that the 49ers allow him to seek a trade
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Cheaper than Peyton and no where near as bad as Peyton. Win win IMO.
The Panthers and the Seahawks both ran the ball more than they passed this year. Both Russ and Cam were bottom half of the league in attempts, and you can say the same thing about running the ball when leading for Carolina, as evidenced by all the leads they almost blew, yet Cam and Russ were still able to put up the numbers they did and both of them have higher career YPA than Kap.
All I'm hearing is what could have happened if..., what might happen if..., and that's exactly my point, yall are confusing potential with reality. He balled out in some of those playoff games and he made some throws that made you say "this dude is going to be a problem" but, he was never that nikka. It never actually materialized (I'm not blaming him for it, I'm just point out the facts), It might still, but yall are acting like it's a no brainier.
Sums it up to the T.
He never lived up to his potential, he regressed every single year.
Never was able to step up, improve and carry the team.
Rocket for an arm means nothing if you can't find a receiver or that rocket throw is directly into the ground on a 5 yard pass.
He's been in the league 5 years, all that potential is no longer potential, it's now becoming wasted talent because he hasn't developed at all.
Also, for the athleticism, he's a great athlete who has HORRIBLE pocket presence. I wish there was a stat for "Stepped into sacks" he'd lead the league
jwonder
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Can't be more ass than Kaep. I'm willing to give Gabbert a chance if we actually upgrade the line.
There is no element of surprise when you have a fourth string RB starting behind a ass O line. Smh
jwonder
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. He's predictable. People keep living in the past before defenses caught up to him.NO TEAM IN THE NFL he goes to is going to have the talent he had those said years. You are crazy to think he is going to look remotely like he did. He can't read defenses either. His best year was the element of surprise option play. Can't do that all the time now. Almost 30 and plays like he still is in college. Smh
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jwonder
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If Kaep played the whole season he would have been worse. We were averaging 3 points a game when he started funkin it up. We would not have won another game.
But he was worse than Kap...last season when he took over.
No QB would been great with that O line. Gabbert had flashes. Kaep just looked like shyt.
B90X
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You can't say Gabbert had flashes but Kap played like shyt when Kap played better than Gabbert. Gabbert got his numbers on a bunch of check downs and short throws. Gabbert was/is/forever will be trash, breh.
I find it curious, though, that you'd want to see Gabbert behind a retooled offensive line and not Kap behind a retooled line when we've seen Kap thrive behind a good line.
The Niners would be best served cutting bait on both, signing an established vet and drafting a early/middle round qb of the future.
jwonder
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Because I'm sick of my Niners wasting years on a option QB's like Smith and Keapernick. They are very limited QB's. Gabbert is cheap. So Keep him. I'm not saying don't look for other options. No QB worth drafting high this year. Mid rounds is fine and go from there.
Know your shyt before you talk it.
Gabbert's YPA was higher than Kaepernick's, 7.2 to 6.6
And most people who don't want Kaep aren't saying Gabbert should be the guy either, that's not my case. I`ll take Gabbert over Kaep, but we need to find the real QB of the future and i do not see Gabbert as that guy, maybe w/ Kelly that could change, but as of what i saw in 2015 he is not that dude to build a team around
Cutting bait on Gabbert makes no sense though, he is at a very low rate for a QB, he's showed he can play in the league at a decent level and would be the vet to mentor a drafted QB. Also, Chip made Sanchez and Foles look good so i`m sure Gabbert will improve with him
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And what the fukk is Gabbert? He some kind of hidden gem or something? You honestly think Gabbert is gonna be the missing link? Keeping Gabbert guarantees the offense will be shyt. He's LITERALLY a poor man's Alex Smith.
And what the fukk is Gabbert? He some kind of hidden gem or something? You honestly think Gabbert is gonna be the missing link? Keeping Gabbert guarantees the offense will be shyt. He's LITERALLY a poor man's Alex Smith.
How come the offense was significantly better with Gabbert then?
What's that say about Colin Kaepernick. He's a poor maes Michael Vick?
jwonder
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I said he isn't the only option, but he is cheap to keep. Can look for other QB's. But I really don't want to waste time on Kaep like we did with Alex Smith.
And what the fukk is Gabbert? He some kind of hidden gem or something? You honestly think Gabbert is gonna be the missing link? Keeping Gabbert guarantees the offense will be shyt. He's LITERALLY a poor man's Alex Smith.
Eight starts each: Comparing Kaepernick to Gabbert
I`ll bold the better player in the measured statistic
Colin Kaepernick
Team record: 2-6
Attempts: 244
Completions: 144
Yards: 1,615
Comp. pct.: 59.0
Yds/Att.: 6.6
Touchdowns: 6
Interceptions: 5
Sacked: 28-166
Rating: 78.5
Rushing att.: 45
Rushing yards: 256
Rushing avg.: 5.7
Blaine Gabbert
Team record:3-5
Attempts: 282
Completions: 178
Yards: 2,031
Comp. pct.: 63.1
Yds/Att.: 7.2
Touchdowns: 10
Interceptions: 7
Sacked: 25-164
Rating: 86.2
Rushing att.: 32
Rushing yards: 185
Rushing avg.: 5.8
In 8/10 categories, Gabbert performed at a higher rate
I`ll bold the better player in the measured statistic
Colin Kaepernick
Team record: 2-6
Attempts: 244
Completions: 144
Yards: 1,615
Comp. pct.: 59.0
Yds/Att.: 6.6
Touchdowns: 6
Interceptions: 5
Sacked: 28-166
Rating: 78.5
Rushing att.: 45
Rushing yards: 256
Rushing avg.: 5.7
Blaine Gabbert
Team record:3-5
Attempts: 282
Completions: 178
Yards: 2,031
Comp. pct.: 63.1
Yds/Att.: 7.2
Touchdowns: 10
Interceptions: 7
Sacked: 25-164
Rating: 86.2
Rushing att.: 32
Rushing yards: 185
Rushing avg.: 5.8
In 8/10 categories, Gabbert performed at a higher rate
If traditional stats ain't what you're looking for, check out PFF's breakdown of Kaep vs. Gab
Can we take an even deeper look at the two quarterbacks? Yes we can, thanks to Pro Football Focus.
The advanced NFL metrics website recently dished out its end-of-season numbers, and the results are telling.
Kaepernick received a -15.6 overall grade, good for 36th among quarterbacks. Gabbert checked in at -4.7, 28th in the league.
According to PFF, Kaepernick was pressured on 39.5 percent of his dropbacks (9th highest), compared to Gabbert's 37.6 percent (T-14th highest).
When pressured, Kaepernick was sacked 24.1 percent of the time (2nd highest), while Gabbert was brought down 20.2% of the time (7th highest).
Perhaps one reason why Kaepernick was sacked more under these circumstances: His "time from snap-to-release of attempted pass" (doesn't count sacks or scrambles) was 2.55 seconds -- 26th fastest.
On average, Gabbert got rid of the ball 2.38 seconds after the snap -- tied for the eighth fastest.
This could help explain why Gabbert was continuously asked about throwing too many "checkdowns."
Can we take an even deeper look at the two quarterbacks? Yes we can, thanks to Pro Football Focus.
The advanced NFL metrics website recently dished out its end-of-season numbers, and the results are telling.
Kaepernick received a -15.6 overall grade, good for 36th among quarterbacks. Gabbert checked in at -4.7, 28th in the league.
According to PFF, Kaepernick was pressured on 39.5 percent of his dropbacks (9th highest), compared to Gabbert's 37.6 percent (T-14th highest).
When pressured, Kaepernick was sacked 24.1 percent of the time (2nd highest), while Gabbert was brought down 20.2% of the time (7th highest).
Perhaps one reason why Kaepernick was sacked more under these circumstances: His "time from snap-to-release of attempted pass" (doesn't count sacks or scrambles) was 2.55 seconds -- 26th fastest.
On average, Gabbert got rid of the ball 2.38 seconds after the snap -- tied for the eighth fastest.
This could help explain why Gabbert was continuously asked about throwing too many "checkdowns."