Collections Affects Credit Score?

Jesus Shuttlesworth

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yeah like i said, you dont have to pay a dime to any collector

but if the credit agency thinks its legit documentation, then that's all that matters as far as your credit report, back in the day challenging use to work more because collection agencies were more shady, but nowadays collection agencies have gotten less shady or more legit to challenge the challengers, so to speak

:manny: Granted, I did this about 8 years ago but I still don't see how a collection agency can acquire any documentation bearing one's signature. Most time the debt is verified over the phone when the debtor admits to the debt.

Besides, what's there to lose? Play dumb and ask for verification. Worst case scenario is they verify and you're back to square one anyway. :yeshrug:

I won't lie, these tactics I speak of are shady but the whole industry is shady IMO. I just know of a loophole or two.
 

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Once a debt goes to collections you don't have to pay it. You have no contract with the debt collector. Send them a letter asking them to verify the debt, with something bearing your signature. Give them 30 days or tell them you want it removed. If they call you during that 30 days or don't remove it you can sue them for $1,000. Of course they're not going to have this documentation because they simply bought your name and info for pennies on the dollar in hopes to use scare tactics to collect. The original creditor has already written your debt off.

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This.

Whatever you do, don't re-affirm the debt. If they call you and you answer, just lie and say you have no idea what they're talking about. If you re-affirm the debt, I think the 7-year clock starts all over.
 

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This.

Whatever you do, don't re-affirm the debt. If they call you and you answer, just lie and say you have no idea what they're talking about. If you re-affirm the debt, I think the 7-year clock starts all over.

i dont disagree with this, especially if its not in your credit report and they are just calling you about it

but its important to understand that it is just about whether they bother you, affirming the debt or not is not tied directly to your credit report, it can still be in your credit report if you deny owning the debt
 

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@Listen Letter was from northland group which is the collection agency. it was assigned to them. I use that quizzle site someone had mentioned on here not long ago. on there it shows amount past due and account not in dispute. Far as sol. Should be 4 years if info is correct on site provided. Should I call and get the dfod?
 

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I worked in collections for about 4 years. Take the settlement if you don't have any other means of paying it off. Either way, you're credit is fukked I'm sorry to tell you.

I've had a bill in collections for about three years. How do I improve my credit?
 

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If I think it's petty or bs I just don't pay it. Take out more loans and credit lines and keep laughing to the bank.

:manny:
 

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@Listen Letter was from northland group which is the collection agency. it was assigned to them. I use that quizzle site someone had mentioned on here not long ago. on there it shows amount past due and account not in dispute. Far as sol. Should be 4 years if info is correct on site provided. Should I call and get the dfod?
I would first look at your free credit report and see how its posted.

You can tell if Macy's still owns the debt or if they truly sold it off. If they still own it, the collection agency could be assigned the debt to collect it, but not actually own it. The way to tell is if Macy's lists a zero balance or not on your credit report. If the Macy;s account says close/charged off with a Zero balance, then they do not own the debt any longer and Northland bought it and owns it.

If they STILL report a balance, AND Northland reports one, than Macy's still actually owns the debt, they have just let Northland attempt to collect it from you.

If Macy's still owns it, then you could call them directly to attempt to have the account removed completely. This is called a Pay for Delete letter, where they agree to delete your account for full payment. This would remove the negative account and history all together from your credit profile. If you got them to agree to this (which is not always easy) you could see a decent jump in your credit score.

However, if that is one of your oldest credit lines, it could actually hurt your score, because you'd be removing your oldest line of credit, and part of your score equation is based on length fo credit as well, so you'd want to consider all of that first.

In the case that Macy;s did own it still, and agreed to delete the account for payment in full, you could then send a letter to Northland, asking them to verify the debt. They would not be able to, since it would be deleted, and would then also be force to remove the listing from your credit report. In this case,t hat would help your score even more, because you were actually being double dipped with 2 negative records for one debt.


If Macy's shows a zero balance and a closed account, they they sold your debt to Northland completely and don't own it anymore, so there is nothing to do with Macy's but wait for them to fall off in 2 plus years. If you are outside your states SOL for being sued, you could then respond to Northland first with a letter to verify the debt. if they can't verify it, they have to deleted it. Case closed, off your report. If they can verify it, you can then send them a pay for delete letter, offing to pay it in full if they delete the file from your credit. This is usually easier with a collection place. If they agree, they will remove it completely and your score will go up.

If you settle, and just pay the agreed upon discount, the collecting will continue to stay on your account for 7 years, albeit showing a zero balance with the words 'settled for less than owed' on your report. You will get zero benefits on your credit report by paying the settlement debt. It will only help if your going to say, buy a car or a house, they are more likely to give you a preferred rate if your collections are actually settled or paid than still open and owing.

:phew:

Does any of that make sense?
 

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I would first look at your free credit report and see how its posted.

You can tell if Macy's still owns the debt or if they truly sold it off. If they still own it, the collection agency could be assigned the debt to collect it, but not actually own it. The way to tell is if Macy's lists a zero balance or not on your credit report. If the Macy;s account says close/charged off with a Zero balance, then they do not own the debt any longer and Northland bought it and owns it.

If they STILL report a balance, AND Northland reports one, than Macy's still actually owns the debt, they have just let Northland attempt to collect it from you.

If Macy's still owns it, then you could call them directly to attempt to have the account removed completely. This is called a Pay for Delete letter, where they agree to delete your account for full payment. This would remove the negative account and history all together from your credit profile. If you got them to agree to this (which is not always easy) you could see a decent jump in your credit score.

However, if that is one of your oldest credit lines, it could actually hurt your score, because you'd be removing your oldest line of credit, and part of your score equation is based on length fo credit as well, so you'd want to consider all of that first.

In the case that Macy;s did own it still, and agreed to delete the account for payment in full, you could then send a letter to Northland, asking them to verify the debt. They would not be able to, since it would be deleted, and would then also be force to remove the listing from your credit report. In this case,t hat would help your score even more, because you were actually being double dipped with 2 negative records for one debt.


If Macy's shows a zero balance and a closed account, they they sold your debt to Northland completely and don't own it anymore, so there is nothing to do with Macy's but wait for them to fall off in 2 plus years. If you are outside your states SOL for being sued, you could then respond to Northland first with a letter to verify the debt. if they can't verify it, they have to deleted it. Case closed, off your report. If they can verify it, you can then send them a pay for delete letter, offing to pay it in full if they delete the file from your credit. This is usually easier with a collection place. If they agree, they will remove it completely and your score will go up.

If you settle, and just pay the agreed upon discount, the collecting will continue to stay on your account for 7 years, albeit showing a zero balance with the words 'settled for less than owed' on your report. You will get zero benefits on your credit report by paying the settlement debt. It will only help if your going to say, buy a car or a house, they are more likely to give you a preferred rate if your collections are actually settled or paid than still open and owing.

:phew:

Does any of that make sense?

good explanation
 

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@Listen macys owns and shows past due amount. account is closed and was my oldest credit line. I thought only open accounts impact credit. know it's best to pay off than close tho. I do need to get help to someday buy a house. I already got a car loan which helps score with a cosigner. credit karma shows length of credit for open accounts only. I kind of see what you mean. even tho closed, it's still part of credit history so might not affect credit score but lenders look at everything from the past to determine eligibility and rate.
 

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a couple weeks ago, I saw my score go down 30 points in a week.

well I was put in collections for some credit card that I never had.

I simply disputed it online with all three credit beaureas and like 2 weeks later, my score was back up to where it had originally been.
 

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i like how most credit cards are offering free credit scores now. i check my shyt every week. also credit wise from capital one looks exactly like credit karma, they must have created a private label site for them. i use that for any updates to my credit report.

i love seeing my score above 800.
 

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my deliquent account for 750 dollars disappeared and my credit went up 30 points, wtf happened :dwillhuh:

Did COVID bush the collection agency ?
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