College Athletes are taking steps to be represented by a Labor Union

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For the first time in the history of college sports, athletes are asking to be represented by a labor union, taking formal steps on Tuesday to begin the process of being recognized as employees, ESPN's "Outside The Lines" has learned.
Ramogi Huma, president of the National College Players Association, filed a petition in Chicago on behalf of football players at Northwestern University, submitting the form at the regional office of the National Labor Relations Board.
Backed by the United Steelworkers union, Huma also filed union cards signed by an undisclosed number of Northwestern players with the NLRB -- the federal statutory body that recognizes groups that seek collective bargaining rights.

"This is about finally giving college athletes a seat at the table," said Huma, a former UCLA linebacker, who created the NCPA as an advocacy group in 2001. "Athletes deserve an equal voice when it comes to their physical, academic and financial protections."
Huma told "Outside The Lines" that the move to unionize players at Northwestern started with quarterback Kain Colter, who reached out to him last spring and asked for help in giving athletes representation in their effort to improve the conditions under which they play NCAA sports. Colter became a leading voice in regular NCPA-organized conference calls among players from around the country.
In a Sept. 21 game against Maine, Colter wore a black wristband with the hashtag "#APU" -- All Players United -- prominently scrawled in white marker as part of a quiet protest gesture. He was joined that day by about 10 teammates as well as players at Georgia and Georgia Tech. In all, players on seven teams in the five largest conferences displayed the #APU symbol, according to the NCPA.
Huma said he met with Northwestern players over the weekend on campus in Evanston, Ill., and took the next step in creating a collective voice for players. He said Colter introduced him to groups of players that Colter had talked with over the past couple of months about their interest in taking the unprecedented step of asking for union representation.
To have the NLRB consider a petition to be unionized, at least 30 percent of the members of a group serving an employer must sign union cards.
Huma declined to say how many Northwestern players signed cards other than the number was "overwhelming majority." To get to 30 percent, at least 26 of the 85 scholarship players had to sign.
The formal entity that would represent the players, if certified by the NLRB, is called the College Athletes Players Association (CAPA). It was created by Huma, Colter and Luke Bonner, a former UMass basketball player and brother of NBA player Matt Bonner, with technical support from the United Steelworkers, who will not receive union dues from players, said Huma, who is registered as CAPA's president.

"When Ramogi first reached out to us years ago, we were like an overwhelming part of the population in that we figured athletes were lucky because they're getting an education," United Steelworkers president Leo Gerard said Tuesday. "But then we looked into it and realized it's a myth. Many don't get a true education and their scholarships aren't guaranteed."
The group has called a news conference at 11:30 a.m. CT Tuesday at the Hyatt Regency Hotel in downtown Chicago, where Kolter, Huma, Gerard and Tim Waters, the union's national political director as well as the NCPA's liaison within the union, will speak.
"The NCAA is a train wreck waiting to happen," Waters said. "What brought them to this moment is they couldn't control their greed. They put all this money in the system."
Spokesmen for Northwestern, the Big Ten Conference and NCAA were not immediately available for comment.
Huma said the goals of CAPA is the same as the NCPA. The group has pressed for better concussion and other medical protections, and for scholarships to cover the full cost of attendance.
Having already successfully advocated for the creation of multiyear scholarships, it now would like those scholarships to be guaranteed even if a player is no longer able to continue for injury or medical reasons. The group has also called for a trust fund that players could tap into after their NCAA eligibility expires to finish schooling or be rewarded for finishing schooling.

The NCPA has lobbied state legislatures, Congress and the NCAA on these issues over the years, and earlier this month hired airplanes to fly protest banners during the BCS title game at the Rose Bowl and at the NCAA Convention in San Diego.
"It's become clear that relying on NCAA policymakers won't work, that they are never going to protect college athletes, and you can see that with their actions over the past decade," Huma said. "Look at their position on concussions. They say they have no legal obligation to protect players."
CAPA's initial goals do not include a call for schools to pay salaries, Huma said. However, he declined to rule out the possibility that CAPA would seek that type of compensation in the future and said he knows the public will begin speculating about scenarios in which players would receive a cut of the $5.15 billion in revenues currently generated by athletic departments in the five power conferences.
Those universities will be flush with new cash in the coming years due to the advent of the College Football Playoff, which starts next year, and the signing of lucrative, long-term media contracts that will more than double in value by 2020, according to the SportsBusiness Journal.
At the outset, only Division I FBS football players and men's basketball players -- the athletes at the center of the commercial enterprise -- will be eligible to join CAPA because they are best situated to make a case to be treated as employees, Huma said. Over time, CAPA may expand its scope to include other sports.
He said only scholarship players are eligible for inclusion, as they are already being compensated by schools in the form of a "grant-in-aid" that is capped at the level of tuition, room and board, books and fees.
By filing the union cards with the NLRB, CAPA triggers a process that could take years to resolve. The first group that will consider the request will be the regional board of the NLRB, whose decision can be appealed to the national board.
Northwestern is expected to oppose the action on the grounds athletes are not employees, and the NCAA, the trade association representing the athletic interests of universities, will likely enter the fray as well.
Gerard said he would "not be surprised" if it ends up in the federal court system.
Athletes playing for university-based teams are not currently considered employees by any legal body. They haven't been since 1953, when the Colorado Supreme Court upheld a determination by the state Industrial Commission that a football player at the University of Denver was an "employee" within the context of the Colorado workers' compensation statute.
As a result, the university was responsible to provide workers' comp for his football injuries. The NCAA responded by coining the term "student-athlete" and mandating its use by universities. Use of that term, and other efforts to enforce the idea that athletes cannot also be employees, ramped up as the NCAA a few years later introduced athletic scholarships, a form of compensation for services provided.
The distinction has held, though since then the courts have come to recognize other students who provide services to universities as employees. Graduate students who teach, for instance, are recognized as employees of universities under laws in many states. Academics such as Richard and Amy McCormick of Michigan State have argued that athletes are employees under the common law definition of the National Labor Relations Act.
The NLRA governs only private enterprises and does not apply to public universities. As a private university, Northwestern falls under its jurisdiction. Gerard said that based on labor law, any decision in favor of the players against Northwestern would apply to all private universities across the country in the FBS division. It would not apply to public universities, which are governed by state laws.

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Been long overdue. What are schools gonna do if all the athletes refuse to play in games until they get paid? Take away their scholarships? They'd have no power in the situation.
 

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Well, I don't think it's a good idea. I think that professional football and basketball need to set up a quality semi-pro league system like baseball and hockey. If you don't want to go to college, you still have a high-level athletic leagues for young players that are focused on being a farm for pro leagues. NBA has D-league, but I think it would be good to have a two or three tiered system. Like A and B, or A, B and C, or like A, AA, and AAA.

So some high school kids play junior hockey right after high school. From there, they can go into a semi-pro league (e.g. OHL), the NHL (if they are really good), or into college hockey (where they can develop their game further to go pro or semi-pro, or drop out of the system so to speak). This is why ice hockey in the collegiate level isn't as much of a hot-bed of up-and-comers as football and basketball. If you watch the NBA and NFL draft, most people are coming from a college. If you watch the NHL draft, a lot of players are coming from a farm system team and less from college.
 

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Well, I don't think it's a good idea. I think that professional football and basketball need to set up a quality semi-pro league system like baseball and hockey. If you don't want to go to college, you still have a high-level athletic leagues for young players that are focused on being a farm for pro leagues. NBA has D-league, but I think it would be good to have a two or three tiered system. Like A and B, or A, B and C, or like A, AA, and AAA.

So some high school kids play junior hockey right after high school. From there, they can go into a semi-pro league (e.g. OHL), the NHL (if they are really good), or into college hockey (where they can develop their game further to go pro or semi-pro, or drop out of the system so to speak). This is why ice hockey in the collegiate level isn't as much of a hot-bed of up-and-comers as football and basketball. If you watch the NBA and NFL draft, most people are coming from a college. If you watch the NHL draft, a lot of players are coming from a farm system team and less from college.

give me 1 reason the nfl or nba would want to do that?
 

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Well, I don't think it's a good idea. I think that professional football and basketball need to set up a quality semi-pro league system like baseball and hockey. If you don't want to go to college, you still have a high-level athletic leagues for young players that are focused on being a farm for pro leagues. NBA has D-league, but I think it would be good to have a two or three tiered system. Like A and B, or A, B and C, or like A, AA, and AAA.

So some high school kids play junior hockey right after high school. From there, they can go into a semi-pro league (e.g. OHL), the NHL (if they are really good), or into college hockey (where they can develop their game further to go pro or semi-pro, or drop out of the system so to speak). This is why ice hockey in the collegiate level isn't as much of a hot-bed of up-and-comers as football and basketball. If you watch the NBA and NFL draft, most people are coming from a college. If you watch the NHL draft, a lot of players are coming from a farm system team and less from college.

well the NBA has the NBDL, maybe allow entry into it at 16, then once eligible at 18 you can be drafted to an NBA team. The nfl would have a tougher issue having this
 

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Been long overdue. What are schools gonna do if all the athletes refuse to play in games until they get paid? Take away their scholarships? They'd have no power in the situation.

Well, yeah. They'll find 12 walk-ons to keep that TV money rolling in.

NCAA is probably working around the clock to stop this. If college athletes unionize, the countdown to judgment day will begin.
 

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give me 1 reason the nfl or nba would want to do that?
Hmm, it's more for the players. The high school guys have no other avenue to go pro other than Div I sports.
It's like you got these guys in Div I college who could care less about their education. In hockey and baseball, they can go to the minors, focus on the sport and try to go pro. If they had an option, then that would be better for them, and they can get paid also. The NCAA scholarship rules interferes with that. But, they should stay focused first on education. Once you take that away, then the NCAA would basically be saying education isn't important.
 
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