Carlos Huerta
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And after they've both retired, I'd be more proud of Mike. One developed earlier, but one had a better career.
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And after they've both retired, I'd be more proud of Mike. One developed earlier, but one had a better career.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
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Most asinine thing I've ever read. LeBron is only 28 with many more years left to play. Everything I'm stating is 100% fact. You're merely speculating. And it's terrible speculation at that.
Carlos Huerta
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Most asinine thing I've ever read. LeBron is only 28 with many more years left to play. Everything I'm stating is 100% fact. You're merely speculating. And it's terrible speculation at that.
He's only won one ring to Mike's six, but I'm the one speculating? You're already assuming he's gonna end up with a better career. do you know what speculating means?
Jesus Shuttlesworth
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He's only won one ring to Mike's six, but I'm the one speculating? You're already assuming he's gonna end up with a better career. do you know what speculating means?
I said up to this point. Do you know what that means?
And again, that doesn't matter because you're talking about who had/will have the better legacy not who the better player is. LeBron can simply do more because of his size and passing ability. Deal with it.
Carlos Huerta
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I don't need to "deal" with anything. I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy his greatness. Doesn't mean I have to prematurely crown him today like you're doing. If he ends up with a better career, great. Time will tell.I said up to this point. Do you know what that means?
And again, that doesn't matter because you're talking about who had/will have the better legacy not who the better player is. LeBron can simply do more because of his size and passing ability. Deal with it.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
I Got Game
Like I said, we're talking about 2 different things...
Carlos Huerta
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ok bruh.. it's all good. Just don't think it's fair to use the age argument. In the 80's players didn't jump to the pros. Bron in the 80's would've beasted in college and won a ship just like Jordan did
Jesus Shuttlesworth
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ok bruh.. it's all good. Just don't think it's fair to use the age argument. In the 80's players didn't jump to the pros. Bron in the 80's would've beasted in college and won a ship just like Jordan did
How is age not fair but "years played" is? LeBron was 18 his rookie year, Jordan was 21. So comparing an 18 year old to a 21 year old is fair but comparing two 18 year olds isn't? I'm confused.
They both took different routes but the destination is the same: mid 30's. They're going to retire at around the same age not years played.
Again, peep that timeline. LeBron is more advanced at every age up to this point. It's actually kinda retarded to think LeBron won't finish with a better career seeing as how he's been ahead at every stage to this point. Why would that not continue? LeBron continues to get better every year.
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Jordan got the rings and the 90's fame but he ain't better than the Kang when It's all said and done. :smugkang:
I don't understand how you can make this argument Shuttlesworth? Jordan IMO was more accomplished at the same age as Lebron.
In my view it all boils down to Lebron NEEDING TO JUMP TO AN ALL-STAR TEAM TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP. This diminishes this accomplishment compared to MJ and this is not hating.
If Jordan joined a team with Magic and Larry Bird in the late 80s and won every NBA championship. His legacy would not be what it is today.
Lebron jumping from Cleveland to Miami diminish his legacy compared to Michael Jordan.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
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The Heat are an All-Star team, bruh? Somebody should let them know.
I'm not talking about legacy. I'm talking about who's the better player. There's a difference. Jordan's legacy will be hard to beat. Essentially, he won 6 straight chips. But unfortunately that's what's clouding people's minds. There's no doubt LeBron can do more on a basketball court. In my mind, it's not even a debate anymore. Now he needs a bunch more titles so he can cloud people's vision too, I guess. But that's legacy, that's not better player.
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Gasol beasted? Whats with all this revisionist history on here?
Gasol shot 37% from the field in game 7 and was 7 of 13 from the FT line.
That's beasting?
you post ft stats? gasol had 19 points and 18 rebounds and had like 7-8 offensive rebounds
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nikkas saying magic tho? 
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A center shooting 37% from the field is not beasting. No matter how you try to spin it.
Kobe had 23 points and 15 rebounds. I guess he was beasting too right?
You make a good argument, I disagree slightly.
First IMO the Heat are an All-Star team (especially compared to the competition in the league right now).
Bosh (is a #1 option player) is arguably a top 10 player and a top 3 big man.
Wade (When healthy is a #1 option play) and arguably a top 5 play and a top 2 or 3 guard.
That with Ray Allen (although past his prime) the all-time best 3 point shooter in history.
When has Jordan played with a crop of players any where close to the caliber of the heat? (especially compared to the league competition at that time). I believe even without Lebron (given that the lakers, spurs and celtics are basically past their primes and are done) the Heat would still be a top 2-3 team and likely win the championship (Especially if Wade is heathy).
So again IMO the Heat are an All-Star squad.
Secondly MJ is a better all around player than Lebron is. I don't think it is even debatable. But thats me lol