Concealed carrier

[The Nigerian]

Forgive me for being dispassionate about some ammosexual snuff fantasy involving my mother.

Fvck you, and all the other b!tch boys out there dreaming about killing another man with a gun.

Scum of the earth.

 

[Big Daddy]

Im a vice lord. Im born to shoot

 

[beenz]

Nah the range is where you practice your control. Shooting no matter what requires control, proper holds, breathing and trigger control. When you know your weapon a huge center mass is easy to hit even when it is moving. You just gotta remember the fundamentals. Ive done small game too, the thing about shooting any living creature is ethics. The ethics are the when (to shoot), where (to shoot) and how (to shoot). I wouldnt take a head shot, too risky bullet misses, hits a bystander, moving target, small center mass too many variables. The back would be the easiest thing to put one in, if he is running away, unless he is running like a looney tunes character his legs are going to be right under his torso which makes for a good butt shot or the back of the legs in which he will fall.

say you can hit a moving human while running , why in the hell would you be shooting to wound someone? if you are EVER in the situation where you gotta use your weapon against a human, you should ALWAYS be shooting to kill. I don't ever anticipate ever having to shoot a human in my life, but if I ever was, you best believe I'm trying to kill.

also, when you're hunting, most folks are standing around hiding til an animal shows up so they can get a shot at a stationary creature. most people who hunt are not hitting animals that are on the move.

hell even in the video game oregon trail, it's difficult hitting little squirrels and what not as they move. in real life, it's certainly a whole lot harder.

 

[Wildin]

And he's completely missing the moral point of the question

I understand he morals of the question, but I also understand the ethics of shooting. Regardless of the ethics and morals, I am comfortable with a handgun and a rifle. Im not one of these people that sit up here and talk all that "we gotta get armed" "we gotta protect ourselves" whiles nikkas is here making clever threads for daps and rep, im puttin in work at the range.

If push comes to shove im my hands arent going to be shaking, I dont know if I am able to convince people on here how comfortable I am with a firearm and I dont think it matters because if push comes to shove its going to be second nature to me. I know plenty of owners who havent shot 100rds in their gun/guns and expect to be terminator when the time comes. They are likely to shoot themselves or a non intended target, I know the ethics, the when, where and how. and too be honest its purely simple, if any of the ethics are violated, dont shoot

 

[Big Daddy]

Forgive me for being dispassionate about some ammosexual snuff fantasy involving my mother.

Fvck you, and all the other b!tch boys out there dreaming about killing another man with a gun.

Scum of the earth.

 

[Wildin]

say you can hit a moving human while running , why in the hell would you be shooting to wound someone? if you are EVER in the situation where you gotta use your weapon against a human, you should ALWAYS be shooting to kill. I don't ever anticipate ever having to shoot a human in my life, but if I ever was, you best believe I'm trying to kill.

also, when you're hunting, most folks are standing around hiding til an animal shows up so they can get a shot at a stationary creature. most people who hunt are not hitting animals at are on the move.

hell even in the video game oregon trail, it's difficult hitting little squirrels and what not as they move. in real life, it's certainly a whole lot harder.

30 yards is not far away when you have a gun....if I were standing 30 yards away from you right now youd have to yell to get my attention, if I pulled he trigger when a firearm pointed at you from 30 yards youd drop before you heard the shot. most people dont have a proficient 30-50 to 100 yard dash and you know how fast bullets travel

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Why is it not ok to blast a cat that stole your shyt?

 

[NatiboyB]

You're in a bank or other commonly robbed establishment. There are other customers about.

Place gets robbed, and so do you. But you're armed and the robber didn't feel your weapon.

He turns to exit and make his getaway.

Do you shoot him?

Some say yes, shoot him and 'get my shyt back'. But a friend of mine sitting here brought up good points against that.


A. would the law support you shooting him in the back as he is clearly exiting? (yeah right, only cops can do that kinda stuff and get away with it)

B. what if your shot doesn't kill him instantly or, worse, misses altogether and strikes another customer? In either instance the robber's most likely going to fire back and there you have it- a shootout in a store full of people and kids, by two people most likely not trained to shoot a lick.

C. you shoot and kill the robber, and it turns out to just be a kid, or his gun turns out to just be a bb gun. the guilt that you may feel everyday wouldn't be worth it. Plus in those scenarios the law and public opinion would be giving you though look.

What would you do?




What about if you're in a dark alley or just on the street, just you and him, and he just robbed you but didn't take your weapon because he somehow didn't feel it in his nervous rush.

He takes off with your cell, money, and whatever else of value was in your pockets.

Do you blast him in the back or just let it go as "material possessions?"




In that scenario, I'm blasting.

Nope I'm not shooting him. the way I see it that money isn't mines and my funds will still be there....

 

[Big Daddy]

I understand he morals of the question, but I also understand the ethics of shooting. Regardless of the ethics and morals, I am comfortable with a handgun and a rifle. Im not one of these people that sit up here and talk all that "we gotta get armed" "we gotta protect ourselves" whiles nikkas is here making clever threads for daps and rep, im puttin in work at the range.

If push comes to shove im my hands arent going to be shaking, I dont know if I am able to convince people on here how comfortable I am with a firearm and I dont think it matters because if push comes to shove its going to be second nature to me. I know plenty of owners who havent shot 100rds in their gun/guns and expect to be terminator when the time comes. They are likely to shoot themselves or a non intended target, I know the ethics, the when, where and how. and too be honest its purely simple, if any of the ethics are violated, dont shoot

You're so eager to brag about "knowing how to shoot" that you've completely missed the thread topic. Not one of your replies has been relevant to the moral dilemma presented in this thread.
Just stop already, nobody's impressed that you "go to the range".
These days, who doesn't??

 

[Big Daddy]

Nope I'm not shooting him. the way I see it that money isn't mines and my funds will still be there....

Alley way scenario though?

 

[beenz]

Why is it not ok to blast a cat that stole your shyt?

cuz you can't murder people who steal man. especially if you're not in danger yourself.

even the folks who rob banks don't get the death penalty for potentially stealing millions of dollars.

it's material possessions. just gotta charge it to the game.

 

[Wildin]

by the way, I wouldnt be running, Id obviously be stopped and aiming the pistol which takes 2 seconds max, like I said he if is running like ricky (straight away from me) he is gone. unless he is fast than a speeding bullet. If he is doing a cross or weave pattern he is likely going to run back in to the sight of the gun and its over.

You remember that scene on the mask where he is standing there moving his hips as the bullets fly past like he's hula hooping? that is greatly exaggerated that center mass is not moving out of the way in time.

say you can hit a moving human while running , why in the hell would you be shooting to wound someone? if you are EVER in the situation where you gotta use your weapon against a human, you should ALWAYS be shooting to kill. I don't ever anticipate ever having to shoot a human in my life, but if I ever was, you best believe I'm trying to kill.

also, when you're hunting, most folks are standing around hiding til an animal shows up so they can get a shot at a stationary creature. most people who hunt are not hitting animals at are on the move.

hell even in the video game oregon trail, it's difficult hitting little squirrels and what not as they move. in real life, it's certainly a whole lot harder.

 

[NatiboyB]

Alley way scenario though?

Well I had no choice but to protect me and mines...same way with house or property or if I see any of my family who is in need.

 

[beenz]

by the way, I wouldnt be running, Id obviously be stopped and aiming the pistol which takes 2 seconds max, like I said he if is running like ricky (straight away from me) he is gone. unless he is fast than a speeding bullet. If he is doing a cross or weave pattern he is likely going to run back in to the sight of the gun and its over.

You remember that scene on the mask where he is standing there moving his hips as the bullets fly past like he's hula hooping? that is greatly exaggerated that center mass is not moving out of the way in time.

well maybe you can make that shot. but for me, I'm not shooting at anyone unless they are an immediate threat to my life or my family's.

I'm not taking my chances shooting someone trying to run away. heaven forbid you miss and hit someone else unintentionally.

 

[Wildin]

Well fine let me answer the questions
A would the law support me shooting him, yes if lives were endangered and as long as Ididnt take the law in my own hands and shoot him then run up on him and finish him. One shot to stop him or drop him, they would support.

B. For an experienced shooter it only takes a solitary moment to identify whether it is ethical to shoot or not, therefore if its ethical id take the shot without hesistation, if its not ethical I wouldnt shoot and he would run free as a bird.

C. If I shot him and he was a kid, a pregnant teen, and elderly man, or an old woman with alzheimers/dementia, a drug addict, someone who is drunk or bipolar, masked murderer or repeat offender no matter what I have to accept what I did and who I shot. There is no free pass where you just feel good about shooting someone. Even if someone is breaking into your house and attempting to rape your daughter or wife at gun point you dont feel good or relieved that you shot someone, you accept it and move on. You dont close your eyes after you shoot someone because you cant handle what you did.

If its me in an alley, and he took my phone and wallet, and didnt do me any harm, theres a large ethical window to let him run then deactivate my cards and let the processes take place. If he pistol whips me or fights me, or shoots me and leaves me to die then I ethically have to stop a potential threat to the rest of society. Once again not an easy choice but I accept it and would deal with it accordingly

You're so eager to brag about "knowing how to shoot" that you've completely missed the thread topic. Not one of your replies has been relevant to the moral dilemma presented in this thread.
Just stop already, nobody's impressed that you "go to the range".
These days, who doesn't??