Condos worth a million overseeing street filled with homeless

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You honestly suggested just get rid of homeless services to solve the homeless problem, you're retarded.


Deuteronomy 15:11 “For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’"

:ohhh: Yo I think Moses was a neoliberal.


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But seriously we need some government polices to house the homeless. It is getting really bad
 
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Being from SF, the city always been a homeless mecca. Been like that probably since at least the 60’s. Even rich trust fund cacs from Maine come to the city to be homeless because the homeless community in SF look out for each other historically and the drugs are better and more plentiful in the Bay than most places. Plus, you not gone freeze to death in Frisco. Chicago homeless death rate in the winter look like the murder rate. Jack Frost be murkin homeless folks in the Chi. :merchant:

But homeless people migrate from all over the country to be homeless in the Sco. So it’s really a reflection of a much bigger societal problem. They are folks making six figs in the Bay who sleep in their cars because they can’t afford rent. :ohhh:

The Bay is known for coming up with extreme solutions to things. For example, there are almost no black people left in SF. Gentrification has run its full course in the city in terms of that. I bet the solution to the rampant homeless will be funded by Amazon and Apple. Communist China inspired smart cities where everything is highly monitored and regulated through a state of the art tech and a social credit system and money is secondary or not even used and homeless people are given housing, food and everything else for acting right... but little in terms of freedom or privacy or any “rights” specified in the constitution. :picard:
 

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And what I proposed, after saying removing some services isn't gonna work? Cancel the shyt they have now and move to model I proposed. What are the issues .

1. Veterans move to military facility.
2. Mentally ill move to mental health facility paid for by the city using a vacant building. Perfect place for med school interns to make their bones.
3. Vacant build turned into trade facility with housing for people who want to work
4. Senior facility for this who are old tired and can't work.

The people left will be the people who enjoy being homeless and we move them by your house.

That requires more money than we current use.

Also your idea works well if you are willing to foot a huge bill. I've worked in Skilled Nursing with a huge population that is unable to work due to cognitive and physical issues. I can tell you off the jump that many of those private places are only half full or maybe 60-70% at capacity. Maybe we can change the incentive and payment structure to allow them to house more People. This could be cheaper than using vacant buildings. Even so i can see these for-profit companies (i.e. Brookdale) being resistant.

In hindsight your idea isn't terrible if you can maximize some of the current resources. Even that can be difficult.....


And we are just covering one population segment. Let's not get into able bodied homeless
 

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That requires more money than we current use.

Also your idea works well if you are willing to foot a huge bill. I've worked in Skilled Nursing with a huge population that is unable to work due to cognitive and physical issues. I can tell you off the jump that many of those private places are only half full or maybe 60-70% at capacity. Maybe we can change the incentive and payment structure to allow them to house more People. This could be cheaper than using vacant buildings. Even so i can see these for-profit companies (i.e. Brookdale) being resistant.

In hindsight your idea isn't terrible if you can maximize some of the current resources. Even that can be difficult.....


And we are just covering one population segment. Let's not get into able bodied homeless

it would be cheaper if the government owned the buildings. private owners will always be incentive to overcharge and upcharge the government. government should own the property and have renters pay an affordable amount each month. not every one will be able to work due to mental illness or even a physical disability. later, services should be in place to help some capable people migrate to other privately owned dwellings after some appropriate time has passed(months or years).

housing without pre-conditions.
 

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It will not- it should be piloted as public private partnerships in smaller places with the goal to eventually
Dispose of non profits and subsume them into public health and housing agencies. Move much faster when results aren’t happening.

The field is too disparate to be effective as a federal program but “help” needs to be a carrot-stick program for beneficiaries as well as agencies that receive millions to address the problem. If the np can’t prove they’re effective and NOT just “feel-good” stories with fundraising, providing services, revoke their status.

For families/individuals, not just funding them permanently but not leaving them stranded after a year or so either. For those with mental health or substance issues, require them to get treatment to discontinue using-or zero services, remove children from home, they get reshuffled to bottom of priority for eligibility. I have a bunch of general sketches but no, we shouldn’t be expected to continue funneling dollars into a very broken and very fractured system.

Also force churches to provide homeless assistance services. Many do, in terms of food banks and such but formalize it.
because of things like this non profits need more oversight and much less pub funding
 
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