Congratulations America, Trump's Big Beautiful Bill Passes The House

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I hope the senate rejects this but the republicans have shown themselves to be cowards and short sighted sycophants for trump every time.

I just read that budget reconciliation bills only require a simple majority (51 votes) to pass in the senate, as opposed the standard 60 votes. Since Republicans have a majority, they would need no Democrat to vote for it (though I'm sure that POS Fertterman would happily vote for it to appease Trump).

Even if they did have to go through the 60 vote threshold, this is "red meat" that Trump really wants. He would have Republicans use the "nuclear option " to lower the voting threshold to 50. Unless some Republicans Senators finally grow a backbone and conscious, I expect it to pass.
 

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I just read that budget reconciliation bills only require a simple majority (51 votes) to pass in the senate, as opposed the standard 60 votes. Since Republicans have a majority, they would need no Democrat to vote for it (though I'm sure that POS Fertterman would happily vote for it to appease Trump).

Even if they did have to go through the 60 vote threshold, this is "red meat" that Trump really wants. He would have Republicans use the "nuclear option " to lower the voting threshold to 50. Unless some Republicans Senators finally grow a backbone and conscious, I expect it to pass.
I am almost certain they will pass. The fukkig media is like “nah they won’t do it… don’t freak out” which is just them carrying water Again for republicans to do some evil shyt.

Maybe the republicans in the senate say take Medicare out…. But I doubt it. I expect them to do what they want. So far no one has really tried to stop them. Which is crazy. It’s not that they haven’t been stopped, no one is even attempting to do so.
 

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I am almost certain they will pass. The fukkig media is like “nah they won’t do it… don’t freak out” which is just them carrying water Again for republicans to do some evil shyt.

Maybe the republicans in the senate say take Medicare out…. But I doubt it. I expect them to do what they want. So far no one has really tried to stop them. Which is crazy. It’s not that they haven’t been stopped, no one is even attempting to do so.
so the 214 folks in the house that voted no (including 2 republicants) didnt try to stop them?
 

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:manny: Honestly I don’t care anymore. I’m tired of screaming from the top of my lungs about the horrors of Trump and these dumbass MAGA’s a$$holes just gleefully enjoy their ignorance.

I live in a Blue State (NY) and have an advanced degree im tired of caring for people who don’t care about themselves .

I’m just sympathetic to the non Trump supporting Black people because they didn’t ask for this.

This is where I’m at honestly.
 

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This video mentions something 'hidden' in the bill, and I tried to find the article he quotes Robert Reich from. I could only find an article on MSN/Alternet, with some other mentions in comments on a The Daily Show clip? :dahell:




shytty website... I can't even select the text properly...

So what’s next? Will the Supreme Court and lower courts hold the administration in contempt and enforce contempt citations?

Not if the Big Ugly Bill is enacted with the following provision, now hidden in the bill:

“No court of the United States may use appropriated funds to enforce a contempt citation for failure to comply with an injunction or temporary restraining order if no security was given when the injunction or order was issued….”

Translated: No federal court may enforce a contempt citation.

Obviously, courts need appropriated funds to do anything because Congress appropriates money to enable the courts to function. To require a security or bond to be given in civil proceedings seeking to stop alleged abuses by the federal government would effectively immunize such conduct from judicial review because those seeking such court orders generally don’t have the resources to post a bond.

Hence, with a stroke, the provision removes the judiciary’s capacity to hold officials in contempt.

As U.C. Berkeley School of Law Dean and Distinguished Professor of Law Erwin Chemerinsky notes, this provision would eliminate any restraint on Trump.

‘Without the contempt power, judicial orders are meaningless and can be ignored. There is no way to understand this except as a way to keep the Trump administration from being restrained when it violates the Constitution or otherwise breaks the law. …

‘This would be a stunning restriction on the power of the federal courts. The Supreme Court has long recognized that the contempt power is integral to the authority of the federal courts. Without the ability to enforce judicial orders, they are rendered mere advisory opinions which parties are free to disregard.”

With this single provision, in other words, Trump will have crowned himself king. No congress and no court could stop him. Even if a future Congress were to try to stop him, it could not do so without the power of the courts to enforce their hearings, investigations, subpoenas, and laws.
Has there been any wider discussion of this? Because it seems pretty fukking serious. Or do your newscasters just plug books now?
 

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This video mentions something 'hidden' in the bill, and I tried to find the article he quotes Robert Reich from. I could only find an article on MSN/Alternet, with some other mentions in comments on a The Daily Show clip? :dahell:




shytty website... I can't even select the text properly...


Has there been any wider discussion of this? Because it seems pretty fukking serious. Or do your newscasters just plug books now?

This is should be everywhere but all they want to do is talk about Tariffs, and Biden
 
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