Congressman John D. Conyers Reparations Bill HR40

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Obama doesn't support reparations. He never did. He said so during the 08 elections and as president.



http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/10/08/black-leaders-who-dont-support-reparations/
Yea...that let's me know where Barack's head is at seriously. I know he couldn't say black people deserve reparations without backlash...but he at least somewhat supports the idea towards some sort of restitution for black Americans.

It a really comes down to white people refusing to create an equal level for black people to compete because they think we should be at the proverbial bottom of the totem pole forever. I mean...look at their habits. They like to have pets and control them. They like that BDSM shut where they refer to people as slave and another as dominant. The prison system is basically the new plantation with a disproportionate amount of blacks in it compared to everyone else. Controlling people and animals is in their nature alright...no matter how much they try to deny it...that's who they are.

That's why I honestly think if reparations ever happened, black Americans should invest in parts of Africa as a safe zone to avoid crackers...straight up. No matter what...If your black in America they are going to try to control you and enslave you one way or another (social security, taxes, information storage, fbi...).

They are sick people and refuse to admit it to us but glorify it. They are obsessed with us...moreso...controlling us. They can't be trusted at all.
 

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I've said this as well....let's ignore the black Americans that fend for themselves, take care of themselves and their families, work and invest, pay rent or mortgages...let's focus on that segment of black America who would just not be able to help themselves and honestly have no clue how to function without white people. They need the most help.

Also @bdizzle said it in another thread...I think some reparations money needs to go towards mental health for black people to undo the damage that the legacy of slavery and systemic racism has laid upon black people's collective psyche. As well...Some of that money should go towards defense.

Why defense? Because white people's undying hatred of blacks would not end with reparations. Believe me thee...There are gonna be some angry as white people who are gonna want to inflict harm on black people for gettjng what they believe to be "free money". Look at rosewood, tulsa, black wall street, they gonna get jealous and try to start hurting people. So black America needs it's own armory.

Man psychologically black people are fukking broken man. It's so bad we don't even realize it. I used to believe Jesus was white, God was white, the angels was white, etc. I used to think we came from absolutely nothing. Man it got so bad I actually said to myself once "Thank God for slavery or we'd still be stuck in Africa :whew:" It's one of the reasons why I view church as propaganda because that's exactly where I got that shyt from (despite the game my pops tried to put me on).

The shyt is so ingrained in us that black women in 2015 don't even realize the weave/perm they have came straight out of self hatred. To them it's just normal. It's why we spend so much time trying to bickering about #TeamLightskin and #TeamDarkskin. It's why some of our are so obsessed with having a white wife that we'd take all kind of humiliation and abuse. It's part of why black men can't get together without immediately feeling like we have to challenge each other over every minute thing.

I had to be honest with myself a while back and admit that yes, I used to believe black people were inferior to whites. I looked at our condition and thought the reason we are the way we are is because white people are just smarter and worked harder. It took me YEARS to get that c00n/slave mentality out of me. A lot of soul searching and a lot of reflecting. The thing that helped the most was learning about African history. In the diaspora no matter what we read, it's gonna be a story of oppression that more than likely began with slavery. But in Africa, man we had massive kingdoms and people would come from all over the globe to get an education from an African (the University of Sankore for example). We ruled not just in Egypt, but in Mali, Ghana, Benin, Songhai, Zululand, Nubia, and Kush. I recently read about a discovery of lost civilization in Negeria dated around 1000 AD that was the size of the state of Tennessee :whew:

I always laugh when people say we talk about race too much on this board. IMO, we don't talk about this shyt nearly enough.
 

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Lets address the question. are we talking about afro latinos born and raised in the US? if so, then YES. If not then NO. they cant get paid by the US. they should get paid by those whites in their current countries, and if they have to reach back to places in europe(spain). yes spain should pay their debt.

First things first. lets stop talking about who can and cant get the money. Lets get the pot together first. cause every time this comes up. people get caught up in who gets it and who doesnt, then the pot is never setup to begin with. There were so called natives trying to get money from the native american money and free stuff they get. Some people trick the system, some are legit and some get caught trying to trick the system. thats a way of life in these scenarios. but just because those negative things will occur doesnt make it right to not do anything for black people at all. thats bad logic.


IMO as a afro Latino my self (Dominican) i think ONLY AFRICAN AMERICANS, should get it , be it money, free education or land , if your family didn't not suffer directly from NORTHER AMERICAN SLAVERY and it cant be proven that you are MULTI GENERATIONAL African american (by census records, SS records, birth certs marriage certs etc) you don't get to reap the benefits of north american reparations.


I personally don't believe we will ever see reparations in this country and here is why: The denial of slavery here ,the African holocaust is treated in this country almost as a children story , anyone who studied in a american school knows what i mean, you probably no more about Jewish holocaust and its horrors than you do about the African one . If reparations were to ever happen it would be and admittance by the american government that they took part in one of the most horrific profitable mass genocides of modern times.

Then the other big elephant in the room, the economic boost it could give millions , and yea some are gonna buy benzs, jordans and blow it away on strippers, but that's not who am talking bout, and am not talking about those AA who are already wealthy (another grey area, do they deserve it) nooo am talking about the millions of lower middle class AA who will all of sudden get a push into upper middle america, those who don't hear about the news who work there butts off everyday , who study there asses off to be the whole person of color in XYX company, those who everyday do the right thing. Those people my friend, the voiceless, the powerless will all of sudden have a big say in what happens in this country, they are they reason you will not see reparations here.
 

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if I'm correct, I think it was this Congressman who was working with Claude Anderson to get this passed. There is a video clip floating around of the press conference they had together on C-Span.

EDIT: Found it!

 
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how's about this. They dont have 40 acres and a mule to give us. lets say they had the mule. Where would these 40 acres sit? would it all be in some crap area? Can a brotha like myself that lives in So. Cal get my 40 acres by the beach... ya know PRIME REAL ESTATE. probably not. And the truth is, they can only give us crap areas for the most part since there are so many more people now in america then there were when they made that promise.

I'm not trying to uproot anyone from their current place of residence(white, black, or other). I'm owed that. but i'm not even going to do you like that. But what i will do is ask for you to first and foremost CUT THE CHECK. Then we can talk about free healthcare and free college/tech schools/private schools from k-12(if someone so well chooses).

The reason why its not far fetched to ask for a CHECK is because groups of people have already had Checks cut on their behalf. Shoot we're still cutting Israel Checks. and the US didnt even do anything bad to the Jews. How's about dem apples?
The natives got a check cut and land. The japanese got a check cut . So why not black folks?

And to add. When do you hear a majority of black people complaining about cutting checks for the japanese, the jews, the natives, and everytime the US goes to war and ends up giving billions to countries they messed up(iraq, Afghanistan, etc. Black tax dollars go towards all of these checks. you dont on average here blacks crying about it. yet when its blacks turn to get paid their DUE. here come the cry babies. You dont find that strange and unfair?
This!

And honestly imma say it...Jews need to stop acting all innocent when it comes to these matters...they probably made the most off the slave trade but we're supposed to feel bad and identify with them cause of the holocaust
IMO as a afro Latino my self (Dominican) i think ONLY AFRICAN AMERICANS, should get it , be it money, free education or land , if your family didn't not suffer directly from NORTHER AMERICAN SLAVERY and it cant be proven that you are MULTI GENERATIONAL African american (by census records, SS records, birth certs marriage certs etc) you don't get to reap the benefits of north american reparations.


I personally don't believe we will ever see reparations in this country and here is why: The denial of slavery here ,the African holocaust is treated in this country almost as a children story , anyone who studied in a american school knows what i mean, you probably no more about Jewish holocaust and its horrors than you do about the African one . If reparations were to ever happen it would be and admittance by the american government that they took part in one of the most horrific profitable mass genocides of modern times.

Then the other big elephant in the room, the economic boost it could give millions , and yea some are gonna buy benzs, jordans and blow it away on strippers, but that's not who am talking bout, and am not talking about those AA who are already wealthy (another grey area, do they deserve it) nooo am talking about the millions of lower middle class AA who will all of sudden get a push into upper middle america, those who don't hear about the news who work there butts off everyday , who study there asses off to be the whole person of color in XYX company, those who everyday do the right thing. Those people my friend, the voiceless, the powerless will all of sudden have a big say in what happens in this country, they are they reason you will not see reparations here.
I have to rep you once I'm off 30s...amazing post!
 
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How many people in here have Claude Anderson, Marcus Garvey and Amos Wilson's books?

@bdizzle @2Quik4UHoes @*L*E*G*A*C*Y*
I will admit, I haven't invested too much time or money into black literature. I've really become knowledgeable aware about people like Dr. Claude Anderson, Dr. Umar Johnson, etc...from here but best believe I will take some time to get into their works. I just started from the Autobiography or Malcolm X when I was in college and took advantage to read into the writings of prolific black minds.

I will admit as well, I am one of many black people that talk but aren't putting in the proper action I would like to...mainly due to my own lack of funds to really put towards it. But that has changed over the years.
 

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I will admit, I haven't invested too much time or money into black literature. I've really become knowledgeable aware about people like Dr. Claude Anderson, Dr. Umar Johnson, etc...from here but best believe I will take some time to get into their works. I just started from the Autobiography or Malcolm X when I was in college and took advantage to read into the writings of prolific black minds.

I will admit as well, I am one of many black people that talk but aren't putting in the proper action I would like to...mainly due to my own lack of funds to really put towards it. But that has changed over the years.

No problem man, thanks for your honesty. It's one of the most refreshing things on this site. Well, I had the idea of putting together a coli fund to invest money into getting those books into the hands of brothas/sistas who are either planning on working for the community or are already putting in work for the community to have these as guides and references as they navigate the levels of community building.

IMO, works from these three authors really gives you a solid philosophical foundation as well as a clear and precise agenda to take to your community and put into action. All three authors really gave me viable solutions that I and people in my circle were able to use right away. It's not the end all be all of course, but it's a step in the right direction and I feel would cut down on the many disagreements I see brothas and sistas have.
 

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:lupe: does that mean afro Latinos get reparations too?

The only thing an afro latino is an African that was captured by the Portuguese/Spanish vs the British.

Anderson Silva is an Afro-Latino:

anderson-silva.jpeg


The only that separates us is his ancestors got dropped off in Brazil, my ancestors got dropped off in Jamaica, and your ancestors got dropped off in the US. None of us are from these places as we're all essentially kidnapped West Africans.
 

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This.

Being African/West Indian and FFirst gen american I don't have a horse in this race...but seriously without some major financial restitution for the crime of slavery...I don't see black America thriving or surviving in the future.

People talk about group economics...but it will only happen with an established foundation for it. Right now the black community is an unfinished house.

Group economics can still work even if we never see a penny of reparations money. I'm like you, I'm 1st generation American so I won't get a penny of that money but I still support the US giving reparations to my people 100%.

But if the goal is to get reparations, group economics can be a catalyst to us actually getting that bread we're owed, but we'd have to be organized. We keep talking about the 1.2 trillion USD of spending power, but we never talk about using that power as a weapon. I read a statistic that says only 3% of the black dollar goes to black businesses. That means we literally give white people the vast majority of the 1.16 TRILLION dollars that we actually control every fukking year.

If we up that number to just 10% we could fukking change every aspect of our community. We can end our poverty, have our own schools, have our own hospitals, have our own media outlets, our own hollywood, airports, supermarkets, oil companies, fast food restaurants, malls, our own everything. Then we can go to the US government from a position of power and say we DEMAND our reparations or else :ufdup:

And once we start spending money with ourselves, the amount of wealth we would create would raise dramatically. It's why I'm going out of my way to give every fukking penny I make to black companies. I want everything in my house to be made by a black person. Every TV, every phone, every stitch of clothing, every ounce of food. It's why I put my money in a black bank, why I found a black lender to do my mortgage, why I found a black realtor, and why I'm moving all of my investments to Ariel Investments (a black owned investment firm).

Right now, we literally have EVERYTHING we need to change our condition overnight. But we're such unconscious consumers that we give away our power to Europeans, Asians, Latinos, and every other group while we remain on the bottom of every economic indicator. The shyt is maddening man and I don't understand why we won't wake the fukk up :why:
 
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