Consequence going in on Kanye on power 105

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It's just strikes me that every time someone is hating it's a 80% chance of it being a Nas stan.
And if he's roc-a-fella affiliated it's about 98% chance of it being a Nas stan. I don't know why, I can't explain it. And when I say Nas stan, think of Nas as a constant, not the rapper. He shouldn't be affiliated with such shamelessly hating ass nikkas.

And in Kanye's own opinion, he felt LR and CD wasn't impressive lyrically and agreed with 50 when he dissed him for being below average lyrically and that he would work hard to step it up for Graduation. 2 Words is one track, and was by far the best verse lyrically on that album. That's why Jay could come in on Diamonds and talk about shallow shyt and still have everyone say he offed Kanye cause the discrepancy between their lyrical performances was so large, something that never would happen again after he stepped it up.

And I'm not talking about which album is better, I'm talking about lyrically.
Power lyrically >>> any song on CD and LR.

I rate Kanye's album's in the following ways LR > CD = MBDTF > Graduation = WTT > 808s. I'm strictly talking about lyrical performance, technical performance etc. CD and LR are not strong for their lyrical excellence or technical skills IMO or any review I've ever read, it's for the production, song-writing, lyrical content, cohesiveness, creativity etc.
Son..noone cares about about no damn Rocafella/JayZ beef...give it a rest...when Kanye came out a lot of his same fans was fans of Nas..shyt..Kanye is a fan of Nas...nobody give a fukk about that shyt..in fact..alotta of the people I meet in real life who CANT STAND Kanye..are die hard Jay fans...but this is all stupid anyway cause muhfukkas could be fans of multiple artists at the same time and noone in this thread mentioned Nas but u...but back on track..I HONESTLY feel he was better on his first 2 joints...he aint EVER been considered NICE to me..thats why I always laugh when nikkas try to act like Ye is some big dog emcee and try to compare him to Jay..shyt is no competition..at all..unless Jay is dumbin himself down..Jay on his A Game is not even in the same stratosphere as Ye...he's FAR beyond and I feel its an insult to the GOATS of this rap shyt when nikkas try to add Ye...honestly..
 

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Son..noone cares about about no damn Rocafella/JayZ beef...give it a rest...when Kanye came out a lot of his same fans was fans of Nas..shyt..Kanye is a fan of Nas...nobody give a fukk about that shyt..in fact..alotta of the people I meet in real life who CANT STAND Kanye..are die hard Jay fans...but this is all stupid anyway cause muhfukkas could be fans of multiple artists at the same time and noone in this thread mentioned Nas but u...but back on track..I HONESTLY feel he was better on his first 2 joints...he aint EVER been considered NICE to me..thats why I always laugh when nikkas try to act like Ye is some big dog emcee and try to compare him to Jay..shyt is no competition..at all..unless Jay is dumbin himself down..Jay on his A Game is not even in the same stratosphere as Ye...he's FAR beyond and I feel its an insult to the GOATS of this rap shyt when nikkas try to add Ye...honestly..
I don't care about qualitative measure, I care about quantitative measures.
A overwhelmingly vast majority of the people in this thread co-signing Cons, hating on Kanye are known true Nas stans. And it's the same in every thread, to a point where I can't even see a dope thread about Jay or Ye anymore cause they're all poisoned by the overrepresented amount of Nas stans.

As I said I don't know or care about the reason to why, it's just a striking observation.

Anyways, fukk when Kanye was better. All his albums are dope to me, first album is classic, last album is classic to me as well. Point being is that no Nas stan would co-signing shyt Cormega or Nature would say, but co-sign everything Cons say with an equal amount of sufficient proof (none) and equal amount of lameness. Which is why I use the word hate.
I need to stop posting in these type of threads, no sincere nikkas left on these boards to have real unbiased discussions anymore.


I guess Hater nikkas, marry hater nikkas and have hater kids :yeshrug:
 

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Whoever compared him to Memph Bleek is right.
Some of these rappers expect their man to keep them in the lime light forever...it doesnt work like that. Theres nothing wrong w/ being the weed handler
 

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I don't care about qualitative measure, I care about quantitative measures.
A overwhelmingly vast majority of the people in this thread co-signing Cons, hating on Kanye are known true Nas stans. And it's the same in every thread, to a point where I can't even see a dope thread about Jay or Ye anymore cause they're all poisoned by the overrepresented amount of Nas stans.

As I said I don't know or care about the reason to why, it's just a striking observation.

Anyways, fukk when Kanye was better. All his albums are dope to me, first album is classic, last album is classic to me as well. Point being is that no Nas stan would co-signing shyt Cormega or Nature would say, but co-sign everything Cons say with an equal amount of sufficient proof (none) and equal amount of lameness. Which is why I use the word hate.
I need to stop posting in these type of threads, no sincere nikkas left on these boards to have real unbiased discussions anymore.


I guess Hater nikkas, marry hater nikkas and have hater kids :yeshrug:
And u come off as one of the non sincere nikkas...real talk..I know I been shyttin on Cons this whole entire thread cause I feel he's actin bytchmade...and most people in the thread feel the same way..only a few people feel the opposite but thats what happens in discussions..people have different OPINIONS...u do this shyt whenever anyone disagrees wit u...u blame shyt on "Nas Stans"..just have the discussion and stop wit the corny shyt...fukk does it matter who the next nikka is a fan of?..if u feel u right state ur opinion and break it down..maybe u will grt thru to some people...maybe u wont..but that "Nas Stan" shyt u be pullin is a cop out...
 

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you know i always thought ghostwriting meant people wasn't supposed to be credited, therefore the entity of a ghostwriter is pure speculation

therefore we shouldn't know how many writers kanye has hired over the years
 

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And u come off as one of the non sincere nikkas...real talk..I know I been shyttin on Cons this whole entire thread cause I feel he's actin bytchmade...and most people in the thread feel the same way..only a few people feel the opposite but thats what happens in discussions..people have different OPINIONS...u do this shyt whenever anyone disagrees wit u...u blame shyt on "Nas Stans"..just have the discussion and stop wit the corny shyt...fukk does it matter who the next nikka is a fan of?..if u feel u right state ur opinion and break it down..maybe u will grt thru to some people...maybe u wont..but that "Nas Stan" shyt u be pullin is a cop out...
It's easier to refer to the haters as Nas Stans, cause they just happen to be Nas Stans. Unrelated to their love for Nas, cause Nas has love for every brother (even cracka these days) putting on.


It's nothing about feeling, either you believe everything Nature and Cormega said about Nas and every Cons and his girl says about Kanye and Tip. Or you don't believe these any one these dudes. I might hate someone like Soulja Boy, but I don't believe any random butthurt nikka talking shyt about him. I'm consistent in my opinions about every rapper.

Using shyt like "It must be true, or else he wouldn't spazz" doesn't that apply to Cormega and them as well? Consistency, is all I'm looking for in cats posting game.
 

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My reasoning is the following: Kanye has not been dissed by any of his previous employees or employers for being shady dating back to the mid 90s. Cons is known for dissing his former employers for being shady. Cons has a TV-show to sell, and the only possible way for him to even get a thread on The Coli or any big blog would be by name dropping ATCQ or Kanye negatively. He only puts on this act when he has a tv-show, mixtape or song coming out. Cons has writing credits, which lawyers drafted. Cons has been seen in expensive whips, has/had a big crib, rocks ice and expensive clothes but has not moved any units , doesn't sell tickets or anything to entertain that type lifestyle all that money is from Kanye's bank account. . So it's safe to assume that he was well compensated, like everyone else on Good Music for essentially doing nothing but being a friend and a struggling artist.

That is why I don't believe Cons.
I also thought about all the different scenarios to why I would believe Cons, and I couldn't think of any other reason than because he's a true religious man who doesn't lie (which he isn't).

So the Cons is bullshytting outweighs the Cons is telling the truth, by miles.

Now I'm done with this thread.
 

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Yeah cause Consequence wrote all Kanye's lyrics ha?
In fact he only has 2 writing credit on 808s and Heartbreaks, so if you wanna claim that Cons and Kasnyes lyrics are related it would be Kanyes weakest lyrics. Cause it's the two weakest songs on his weakest album. :pachaha:

Rhymefest is the only rapper with writing credits on any of his 5 rap albums, on two songs.

Do you think Kanye gives out writing credits on certain songs like his best and worst? He obviously gives for all. What does it matter if he names songs or not? No credits = no writing, it does not make any sense at all to take credit on certain songs and not on others.

And how can you "as a Kanye Fan", say that MBDTF isn't lyrically as good as any other Kanye West album Power straight bombs on any lyrical performance on LR or CD. WTT as well shyt like Murder to Excellence, The Joy, No church in the wild etc . And as a "Kanye West fan", how can Kanye kill Cons on every track they have together? Is Cons killing himself on tracks? You can't tell me with a straight face that he didn't have the weakest verse on Gone, Spaceship and Grammy Family. The only problem is that Kanye is soft, if this was Puff he would fukk your life up for talking reckless. The only way Cons can stay relevant in rap is by clinging on to Kanye as long as he can.

not really refering to Kanye's albums. But Kanye today "WTT and Cruel Summer" is noticeably much much different than his earlier recordings. Like I said, I dont know how much input Rhymefest or Cons has had.. but Kanye, right now, today has regressed

the post Haaaaaaaaaaa era Kanye is a struggle rapper lyrically...
 

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Wow Consequence turned into a lady. :snoop:

This dude cuttin WWE promos and his girl act like an annoying alcoholic.

She talkin all over this man and hes just tryin to get a word in :snoop: Check your lady, friend. :russ:
 

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not really refering to Kanye's albums. But Kanye today "WTT and Cruel Summer" is noticeably much much different than his earlier recordings. Like I said, I dont know how much input Rhymefest or Cons has had.. but Kanye, right now, today has regressed

the post Haaaaaaaaaaa era Kanye is a struggle rapper lyrically...
I can't agree with WTT, The Joy, Murder to Excellence are two of his strongest performances of his career. Top 10 imo. nikkas in Paris is one of the best club songs of the 2000s imo as well.

It's a different style to the music, instead of spitting game about using Kweli to pick up broads. He spits outrageous lines about laws of polygamy, which is just as dope imo.

As far as Cruel Summer, shyt was average but it was club shyt.
And an album with Cyhi, 2 Chainz, Teyanna Taylor, flabby n sick Mase, bunch of young producers etc has it's limits.

Just that Wu-tang joint White Dress alone is as good micwise as any other Kanye West track, but he's not a true spitta. His magic is creating songs for himself and great Mc's. The only songs he produced on Cruel Summer was New God Flow with Ghost and Pusha, and that shyt is amazing and The Morning which I thought was dope as well. I'm one of the biggest "haters" of his Haaa sound, but I understand that he what he's doing. He's having fun, that's why that shyt isn't on his own albums. He's enjoying the feeling of having #1 joints in the hood, strip club joints and on. If you look at his whole career, there is nothing he hasn't done at this point. From trap music to Katy Perry pop to mashing Bieber and Wu-tang, to backpacker music, to musicals and on. But none of that shyt ends up on his albums unless it's 5 mics.
 

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It's easier to refer to the haters as Nas Stans, cause they just happen to be Nas Stans. Unrelated to their love for Nas, cause Nas has love for every brother (even cracka these days) putting on.


It's nothing about feeling, either you believe everything Nature and Cormega said about Nas and every Cons and his girl says about Kanye and Tip. Or you don't believe these any one these dudes. I might hate someone like Soulja Boy, but I don't believe any random butthurt nikka talking shyt about him. I'm consistent in my opinions about every rapper.

Using shyt like "It must be true, or else he wouldn't spazz" doesn't that apply to Cormega and them as well? Consistency, is all I'm looking for in cats posting game.

Son what are u talkin bout?..what I feel about Kanye having writers dont got shyt to do with Cons coming out and sayin it cause I have my own reasons...and if u dont see the clear difference in Ye vs Nas we dont need to be discussing this shyt..im not even gonna get into this shyt so it is what it is...either way I feel Cons is bein a bytch ass nikka...
 

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I can't agree with WTT, The Joy, Murder to Excellence are two of his strongest performances of his career. Top 10 imo. nikkas in Paris is one of the best club songs of the 2000s imo as well.

It's a different style to the music, instead of spitting game about using Kweli to pick up broads. He spits outrageous lines about laws of polygamy, which is just as dope imo.

As far as Cruel Summer, shyt was average but it was club shyt.
And an album with Cyhi, 2 Chainz, Teyanna Taylor, flabby n sick Mase, bunch of young producers etc has it's limits.

Just that Wu-tang joint White Dress alone is as good micwise as any other Kanye West track, but he's not a true spitta. His magic is creating songs for himself and great Mc's. The only songs he produced on Cruel Summer was New God Flow with Ghost and Pusha, and that shyt is amazing and The Morning which I thought was dope as well. I'm one of the biggest "haters" of his Haaa sound, but I understand that he what he's doing. He's having fun, that's why that shyt isn't on his own albums. He's enjoying the feeling of having #1 joints in the hood, strip club joints and on. If you look at his whole career, there is nothing he hasn't done at this point. From trap music to Katy Perry pop to mashing Bieber and Wu-tang, to backpacker music, to musicals and on. But none of that shyt ends up on his albums unless it's 5 mics.

:what: @ the bolded?... :snoop:
 

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:dead: @ raqi thunda postin this pic
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:what: @ the bolded?... :snoop:
You've obviously not been all over the world.
I've never heard dj's at premium clubs playing a hiphop song 5x in row on NY's eve. I've never seen 20k people go so crazy for the same song 8 times in a row.

Name 10 songs that went harder in the club :laugh:
Or don't, I don't wanna know.
 
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