Conservative Pundit Ben Stein speaks on the "Black Underclass"

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Was Ben Stein once seen in this country as an intellectual? I remember when I was a kid he used to have some game show where people would try and match wits against him...But all I ever hear outta him these days is bullshyt.
 

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William Julius Wilson, a black Sociologist tenured at Harvard first spoke about the Black Underclass in 1978 and was lambasted for it by Jesse Jackson and the like so this is nothing new for those of us in the know

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William Julius Wilson, a black Sociologist tenured at Harvard first spoke about the Black Underclass in 1978 and was lambasted for it by Jesse Jackson and the like so this is nothing new for those of us in the know

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What does Jesse Jackson have to do with any of this? Is dropping his name a way for you to deflect from your conservative boy Uncle Ben Stein?

Anyway, Im pretty familiar with Wilson. Why did you leave out his best book 'When Work Disappears'? The book, IMO, reflects a maturation on the issues and offers a more complete look on black socio-economic life since it makes better use of the critical data from the Reagan years. Its fairly even-handed politically speaking, but his analytic offers very little material that a conservative could use to support their positions on blacks and economics. Specifically, he makes an ass out of those who use the "welfare destroyed the black community" talking point --- a message you're quite the fan of IIRC.
 

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What does Jesse Jackson have to do with any of this? Is dropping his name a way for you to deflect from your conservative boy Uncle Ben Stein?

Anyway, Im pretty familiar with Wilson. Why did you leave out his best book 'When Work Disappears'? The book, IMO, reflects a maturation on the issues and offers a more complete look on black socio-economic life since it makes better use of the critical data from the Reagan years. Its fairly even-handed politically speaking, but his analytic offers very little material that a conservative could use to justify their positions on blacks and economics. Specifically, he makes an ass out of those who use the "welfare destroyed the black community" talking point --- a message you're quite the fan of IIRC.

I mentioned those two books because those are the books that Dr. Wilson gets criticized the most over by Jesse Jackson and the like.. And Im glad you recognize that Dr. Wilson isnt a c00n which is typically the label that you and people like you like to label blacks that dont fit in your square peg of how a black intellectual should be an uber liberal championing the democactic party. And any serious scholar on the discipline not just some librul or conservative hack point to other facts that destroyed the black community economically during the Reagan years lmao that isnt exactly ground breaking news..But the greater point is that Dr. Wilson coined the term "black underclass" in '78 and people like you dismissed him as not being sensitive to race..its coming back full circle now in the age of Obama, Wilson was right all along
 
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Outside of Arabs I can't think of any other race that gets viciously shyt talked with no retribution like this in America. Republicans are constantly getting away with stereotyping black people based on statistics. Defending police brutality by claiming that black men have an "anger problem." It's a sweet way of saying we're predisposed to violence.
 
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Why do all these people, in their countless discussions about "black criminality" "black on black crime" and "underclass black violence", never talk about the decline in these trends?

Made a thread about this with statistics and figures and all a while back, it flopped but here it is if y'all are interested http://www.thecoli.com/threads/with...knowledge-the-facts-about-its-decline.263154/

Black poverty is the only poverty that's been down since 1980, but you'll never hear about that either www.demos.org/blog/3/12/14/only-poverty-down-1980-black-poverty
The racist rhetoric that places the blame for poverty trends on black culture is flatly contradicted by the historical trend. In the face of rising overall poverty, black poverty has actually been falling significantly. It fell significantly before 1980 as well. Paul Ryan could not have possibly concluded even with just a superficial glance at the facts that black culture was responsible for our growing poverty. He went into his project with that racist conclusion and, to no one's surprise, came out with it as well.
 

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How is the statement posted wrong? Drugs , lost of family structure plus reliance on government has been bad for the black community and Obama didn't address it in his presidency. Is this wrong?
 

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finaly a whie man who isint skared to speek troof to power. my granfatha came frum eyerland wit not a doller to his name and he wuzint walkin around wit his pants hangin off his reer end lissenin to gangsta rap. why cant blas?

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I can hear Jesse c00n Peterson saying these very words.
 
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