Conservatives take another L this week; same sex marriage passes

[Klyk21]

what can you do..

 

[CHL]

Guy talks about what happened in Canada once the same sex marriage ruling passes. And how some extremist aka gay supremist might do to effect society.

And you're serious, aren't you?

 

[CHL]

How happy are you now that you and your partner can get married i bet you're ecstatic

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Congrats @Napoleon! all the best to you and your partner

 

[MostReal]

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Congrats @Napoleon ! all the best to you and your partner

He can finally be free to be himself

I'm so happy for him

 

[CHL]

He can finally be free to be himself

I'm so happy for him

Same, I know he is a shining example for the LGBT Indian community

 

[brother walt]

this generation well say hello to the end times yall know what happen to Sodom and Gomorra

 

[CHL]

this generation well say hello to the end times yall know what happen to Sodom and Gomorra

God is a fakkit and I killed him

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

Same, I know he is a shining example for the LGBT Indian community

why you hating on gay people?

 

[CHL]

why you hating on gay people?

I fully support Napoleon

 

[The Real]

I thought it was going to be 6-3. Oh, well... The battle has just begun though. Especially with religious freedom and how that will play a part in this. The courts made abortion legal too but that battle is still going on...

There is no religious freedom issue. You're free to hate or disapprove of gay people. And your church is free to not marry them, because it's a private religious institution. But your local government, which isn't a religious institution, has to perform and recognize legal marriage between same sex couples.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

And you're serious, aren't you?

they allow gay marriage in straya?

 

[CHL]

they allow gay marriage in straya?

Same-sex unions are treated as de facto unions under the Australian federal law, though each Australian state and territory is entitled to create their own laws with respect to same-sex relationship registers and same-sex partnership schemes. Same-sex couples are prevented from marrying by the definition of marriage contained within the federal Marriage Act (1961) amended in 2004 by the Howard Government.

It's getting close though, I'd predict it will be under the next government at the latest after Abbott is voted out next year.

2014-15

In November 2014, Liberal Democratic Party senator David Leyonhjelm reintroduced the Freedom to Marry Bill 2014 in the Senate, though by March 2015 Leyonhjelm had deferred the imminent second reading of his bill due to the refusal of the Coalition party room to debate a conscience vote on the legislation.

In May 2015, renewed debate on the issue followed the 2015 Irish constitutional referendum that established marriage equality in Ireland. A report in Fairfax Media stated that if the Coalition gives their members a free vote, then the senate may carry a motion by one, and the lower house needed two extra supporters. Some MPs and Senators who would vote for the bill have not publicised their voting intention. In the wake of the result in Ireland, several Liberal Party MP's publicly voiced their support for a 'free vote' on same-sex marriage legislation.Labor frontbencher Anthony Albanese stated that, in his estimation (and contingent on a Liberal Party free vote occurring) "it is my judgment that there are now majorities in favour of marriage equality in both the House of Representatives and the Senate".

Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young nominated November 12, the second-last sitting week of the parliamentary year for a vote on her private member's bill.While Hanson-Young and David Leyonhjelm had private member's bills in the upper house, Labor leader Bill Shorten introduced a private member's bill to legalise same-sex marriage to the Parliament on June 1. On May 29, details of the bill, known as the Marriage Amendment (Marriage Equality) Bill 2015, were released, with the words "man and woman" in the Marriage Act to be replaced by "two people", whilst Section 88EA of the Act would be repealed entirely so as to enable same-sex couples already married overseas to be recognised as married in Australia. Some MP's have responded by arguing that a different bill, introduced by multiple politicians from the Labor and Liberal parties would be more appropriate.

Labor Party MP's retain their free vote on same-sex marriage legislation, while Prime Minister Tony Abbott has promised a "very full, frank and candid and decent" debate inside the Liberal Party. It is likely a vote will be held on the legislation (or similar legislation to the same effect) in the August 2015 sitting session of the Parliament.

 

[valet]

There is no religious freedom issue. You're free to hate or disapprove of gay people. And your church is free to not marry them, because it's a private religious institution. But your local government, which isn't a religious institution, has to perform and recognize legal marriage between same sex couples.

Religious freedom as in do you have the right to refuse baking a gay wedding cake for example.

 

[valet]

And you're serious, aren't you?

 

[The Real]

Religious freedom as in do you have the right to refuse baking a gay wedding cake for example.

There's no national policy on that the way there is with same sex marriage. As of now, each state decides what to do about that individually. And the big wedding cake story that everyone was talking about from Denver was decided in favor of the bakery, not the gay customers.