Considering this is a Muslim majority forum, what is your stance on multiple wives?

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Maybe a goat ate that word....... like it ate part of that stupid book Muslims been lying about for 1,200 years.

'Perfect preservation'......



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Till this day, these Muslims have not produced the verse the goat ate. yet they go around saying the Quran has been preserved from the time of their prophet knowing very well that statement is full of holes which falls apart when scrutinized.

“The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed1, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it.”


I think we all know why that verse is missing, it will be embarrassing to say God revealed that a grown ass men can suck the t*ts/suckling of an adult woman
This is God talking? The creator of the universe is preoccupied with grown men sucking t*ts?
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My main don't like my sides yet. :mjcry:
Sounds like a horrible hastle because you must constantly deal with their attitudes and emotional drama. You can't just ghost for a week like with side hoez, because the new chick is also your wife.


Only way I'd consider it is if I could get a 3rd wife hired on purely as an emotional mediator between the other 2.


An African breh in the break room broke down how they do it where he is from. Allegedly, they get entirely separate houses for each wife but on the same property and men of his ethnic group take turns sleeping in each house just to keep the peace between all of them.
 

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Till this day, these Muslims have not produced the verse the goat ate. yet they go around saying the Quran has been preserved from the time of their prophet knowing very well that statement is full of holes which falls apart when scrutinized.

“The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed1, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it.”


I think we all know why that verse is missing, it will be embarrassing to say God revealed that a grown ass men can suck the t*ts/suckling of an adult woman
This is God talking? The creator of the universe is preoccupied with grown men sucking t*ts?
🤣
Hell, that's nothing. The Quran states that there is no G-d but Allah, but, because the writers of this trash book were ignorant, they included names that glorified the G-d of Israel, YHWH.

For instance, Elijah. In Arabic his name is Ilyas and in Hebrew, Eliyahu, which LITERALLY means : My G-d is YHWH.


Quran 37:123 & 130

So, Allah says there is no G-d other than me, but wrote names acknowledging....... ANOTHER G-D???!!!!!

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The thing is that, back in the day there weren’t a limit on how many women a man could marry but Islam put a limit to 4 and also there were wars and many women became widows without a husband a woman would have to live in poverty if you did marry women who where widows or living in poverty it was seen as an act of charity.

Nowadays, there is no need for a Muslim man to take on 4 wives here in the West. Allah swt told us to be modest in everything. Taking 4 wives while living the West today can only be out of pure lust.

Yup. In Surah Nisa, Allah also says marry only one if you can not justly treat multiple wives equally.

Most Muslim men are married to one. And that’s a challenge.

The dudes marrying multiple are the ones who got one in their home country, and another one in their adopted country. Somali men staying do that.
 

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Yup. In Surah Nisa, Allah also says marry only one if you can not justly treat multiple wives equally.

Most Muslim men are married to one. And that’s a challenge.

The dudes marrying multiple are the ones who got one in their home country, and another one in their adopted country. Somali men staying do that.

First of all your prophet never treated his wives equally, his other wives waged a protest because he liked Aisha.

"Then the group of Um Salama called Fatima, the daughter of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and sent her to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) to say to him, "Your wives request to treat them and the daughter of Abu Bakr on equal terms."

Second of all, Christianity had been around for 600 years BEFORE Islam which placed a cap on marriage.
Before the Islam conquest happened, all the Christians lands in the East and North Africa were observing this.
 
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First of all your prophet never treated his wives equally, his other wives waged a protest because he liked Aisha.

"Then the group of Um Salama called Fatima, the daughter of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and sent her to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) to say to him, "Your wives request to treat them and the daughter of Abu Bakr on equal terms."

Second of all, Christianity had been around for 600 years BEFORE Islam which placed a cap on marriage.
Before the Islam conquest happened, all the Christians lands in the East and North Africa were observing this.

The Prophet (PBUH) treated them equally. But loving them all the same is different. Jealousy wasn't due to favourism because the prophet was always fair. They weren't jealous of just Aisha they were also jealous of one another at times but not always.

There is nothing wrong with that…its in human nature to be like that.

In fact, Khadija was his first wife and he never married anyone else when he was married to her while she lived. He remembered her the most.
 

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The Prophet (PBUH) treated them equally. But loving them all the same is different. Jealousy wasn't due to favourism because the prophet was always fair. They weren't jealous of just Aisha they were also jealous of one another at times but not always.

There is nothing wrong with that…its in human nature to be like that.

In fact, Khadija was his first wife and he never married anyone else when he was married to her while she lived. He remembered her the most.
Can you read? Does the hadith say they protested because they were not being loved equally or treated equally?
Let me paste the hadith for you again....


"Then the group of Um Salama called Fatima, the daughter of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and sent her to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) to say to him, "Your wives request to treat them and the daughter of Abu Bakr on equal terms."

You don't get to change the words in the hadith. If you think the word 'treat' here is an error, contact Saudi Arabia and tell them to change the hadith. This is not my problem. He did not TREAT his wives equally (according to his own wives). We will stick with the word the hadith uses.

Also, Khadija had all the money he was not going to risk that by marrying someone else. Use your head.

Muhammad always got on good terms with people when he was at his weakest...A good example is when he sent his family to be protected by Abyssinia Christians.

When Islam became powerful he cleared the Arabian peninsula of non-Muslims specifically of Christians and Jews.

"If I live, in sha Allah, I shall certainly expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula."
 
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Can you read? Does the hadith say they protested because they were not being loved equally or treated equally?
Let me paste the hadith for you again....


"Then the group of Um Salama called Fatima, the daughter of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and sent her to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) to say to him, "Your wives request to treat them and the daughter of Abu Bakr on equal terms."

You don't get to change the words in the hadith. If you think the word 'treat' here is an error, contact Saudi Arabia and tell them to change the hadith. This is not my problem. He did not TREAT his wives equally (according to his own wives). We will stick with the word the hadith uses.

Also, Khadija had all the money he was not going to risk that by marrying someone else. Use your head.

Muhammad always got on good terms with people when he was at his weakest...A good example is when he sent his family to be protected by Abyssinia Christians.

When Islam became powerful he cleared the Arabian peninsula of non-Muslims specifically of Christians and Jews.

"If I live, in sha Allah, I shall certainly expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula."

Read the whole Hadith

The hadith that you mention is here in full:

Narrated `Urwa from `A’isha: “The wives of Allah’s Messenger, (Allah bless him and give him peace) were in two groups. One group consisted of `Aisha, Hafsa, Safiyya, and Sauda’; and the other group consisted of Um Salama and the other wives of Allah’s Messenger (Allah bless him and give him peace).

The Muslims knew that Allah’s Messenger (Allah bless him and give him peace) loved `A’isha, so if any of them had a gift and wished to give to Allah’s Messenger (Allah bless him and give him peace), he would delay it, until Allah’s Messenger, (Allah bless him and give him peace), had come to `A’isha’s home and then he would send his gift to Allah’s Messenger, (Allah bless him and give him peace), in her home.

The group of Umm Salama discussed the matter together and decided that Umm Salama should request Allah’s Messenger (Allah bless him and give him peace) to tell the people to send their gifts to him in whatever wife’s house he was. Umm Salama told Allah’s Messenger (Allah bless him and give him peace) of what they had said, but he did not reply. Then they (those wives) asked Umm Salama about it. She said, ‘He did not say anything to me. ‘They asked her to talk to him again. She talked to him again when she met him on her day, but he gave no reply. When they asked her, she replied that he had given no reply. They said to her, ‘Talk to him till he gives you a reply. ‘When it was her turn, she talked to him again. He then said to her, ‘Do not hurt me regarding `A’isha, as the Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of `A’isha. ‘On that Umm Salama said, ‘I repent to Allah for hurting you. ‘

Then the group of Umm Salama called Fatima, the daughter of Allah’s Messenger, (Allah bless him and give him peace), and sent her to Allah’s Messenger, (Allah bless him and give him peace), to say to him, ‘Your wives request to treat them and the daughter of Abu Bakr on equal terms. ‘Then Fatima conveyed the message to him. The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said, ‘O my daughter! Don’t you love whom I love? ‘She replied in the affirmative and returned and told them of the situation.

They requested her to go to him again, but she refused. They then sent Zainab bint Jahsh who went to him and used harsh words saying, ‘Your wives request you to treat them and the daughter of Ibn Abu Quhafa on equal terms. ‘On that, she raised her voice and abused `A’isha to her face so much so that Allah’s Messenger (Allah bless him and give him peace) looked at `A’isha to see whether she would retort. `A’isha started replying to Zainab until she silenced her. The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), then looked at `A’isha and said, ‘She is really the daughter of Abu Bakr. ‘”[Bukhari]

Rather, he inclined more in his heart toward one wife which is perfectly permissible and does not constitute unfair treatment. It is a natural, human inclination and is akin to you or me having more of an affinity to a certain friend, relative, or even type of food. What matters is that his actions, which were governed by the shari’ah, were just, and they were.

And as far as the Hadith on the Jews. This text is but a snapshot within the larger narrative of the Prophet’s (s) biography (al-sirah). Other narrations demonstrate that this statement was made after the conclusion of a battle that had been instigated by one of the hostile Jewish tribes.

Ibn Umar reported: When the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, was victorious at the battle of Khaybar, he intended to expel the Jews from there, but they asked him if they could remain on condition that they work the land and they would get half of its fruits. The Prophet said:

نُقِرُّكُمْ بِهَا عَلَى ذَلِكَ مَا شِئْنَا

We will allow you to remain upon that as long as we wish.

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1551, Grade: Sahih

They stayed in the area thereafter until Umar expelled them to Tayma’ and Ariha’. This was done for the protection of the region of Hijaz, which contains the two holiest sites of Islam in the cities of Mecca and Medina.

Al-Nawawi comments on this tradition, saying:

وَفِي هَذَا دَلِيلٌ عَلَى أَنَّ مُرَادَ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ بِإِخْرَاجِ الْيَهُودِ وَالنَّصَارَى مِنْ جَزِيرَةِ الْعَرَبِ إِخْرَاجُهُمْ مِنْ بَعْضِهَا وَهُوَ الْحِجَازُ خَاصَّةً لِأَنَّ تَيْمَاءَ مِنْ جَزِيرَةِ الْعَرَبِ لَكِنَّهَا لَيْسَتْ مِنَ الْحِجَازِ وَاللَّهُ أَعْلَمُ

In this narration is evidence that the Prophet intended to expel the Jews and Christians from only a part of the Arabian Peninsula, the region of Hijaz specifically, because Tayma’ is on the Arabian Peninsula but it is not a part of Hijaz. Allah knows best.

Source: Sharḥ al-Nawawī ‘alá Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1551

This region is dedicated to the pilgrimage to Mecca and visitation of the mosque of the Prophet (s), so they are off-limits to non-Muslims who might instigate conflict or disrupt the pilgrimage by proselytizing and preaching an anti-Islam message. However, most scholars allowed non-Muslims to visit Mecca and Medina with permission of the government for legitimate business purposes.
 

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@FAH1223 You are doing your best to defend the dude but honestly this is weak stuff. The women are more credible in this instance because there are 10 of them. They all couldn't be lying. But I understand you have to defend the indefensible so cool I guess.

Regarding the genocide of the Jews and Christians from Arabia, The evidence is there today. Even your scholars don't deny this so I'm not sure what you are trying to spin here? Ethnic cleansing of Christians, Jews and the saabaens (polytheists) happened after he gained power.

"It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say:
I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim."

Keep spinning so far you are doing a terrible job.
 

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@FAH1223 You are doing your best to defend the dude but honestly this is weak stuff. The women are more credible in this instance because there are 10 of them. They all couldn't be lying. But I understand you have to defend the indefensible so cool I guess.

Regarding the genocide of the Jews and Christians from Arabia, The evidence is there today. Even your scholars don't deny this so I'm not sure what you are trying to spin here? Ethnic cleansing of Christians, Jews and the saabaens (polytheists) happened after he gained power.

"It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say:
I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim."

Keep spinning so far you are doing a terrible job.
You've made up your mind. You hate Islam. No use in debating you.
 

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He used to have sex with each one of them every night without washing. He went from wife to wife with no washing according to the hadith...He had the power of 30 men in sex

"Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet (ﷺ) used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet (ﷺ) the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet (ﷺ) was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa`id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven)."


This is INSANE 🤣

Why everyone else is limited to 4? Muhammad had special privileges including being able to force a Muslim man to divorce his wife so he can have her....I can go into details about 'his special privileges' but just know he had special privileges.

Quran 33:50
O Prophet (Muhammad SAW)! Verily, We have made lawful to you your wives, to whom you have paid their Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), and those (captives or slaves) whom your right hand possesses - whom Allah has given to you, and the daughters of your 'Amm (paternal uncles) and the daughters of your 'Ammah (paternal aunts) and the daughters of your Khal (maternal uncles) and the daughters of your Khalah (maternal aunts) who migrated (from Makkah) with you, and a believing woman if she offers herself to the Prophet, and the Prophet wishes to marry her; a privilege for you only, not for the (rest of) the believers. Indeed We know what We have enjoined upon them about their wives and those (captives or slaves) whom their right hands possess, - in order that there should be no difficulty on you. And Allah is Ever OftForgiving, Most Merciful.
damn this nikka sounds just like Joseph Smith :skip:

islam and mormonism have a lot in common (theyre both made up by one horny guy)
 
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