Contract and Free Agency Thread: Andrade in Nick Khantanamo Bay

[Kidd Dibiase]

TKO already stepped in when 'Elimination Chamber' ticket sales were in the tank. The only thing that matters is what the quarterly numbers look like.

this is a false narrative, they were short maybe 2500-2800 of a sell out before TKO felt they needed to try and sell out the venue. I know you're not making that narrative but its a fukking weird one that TKO put out there that EC was struggling to sell when it actually wasn't

 

[John Reena]

Let’s be reality, women’s wrestling not moving the needle. Women’s wrestling just an “attraction”. Outside of Bianca and Rhea, none of them chicks are as popular as the male superstars.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

this is a false narrative, they were short maybe 2500-2800 of a sell out before TKO felt they needed to try and sell out the venue. I know you're not making that narrative but its a fukking weird one that TKO put out there that EC was struggling to sell when it actually wasn't

It wasn't just TKO, The Rock himself said they were struggling and the call was made. If anyone has an issue with that, go speak with The Rock and Ari because I'm sure they are more privy to the financials than anyone here.

 

[OneDeep]

Let’s be reality, women’s wrestling not moving the needle. Women’s wrestling just an “attraction”. Outside of Bianca and Rhea, none of them chicks are as popular as the male superstars.

Right before the pandemic

Becky was the most popular wrestler in WWE

Also at one point Britt Baker was the most popular wrestler in AEW

It’s not moving the needle not because of the talent but because they give no stories too the talent

 

[R=G]

Cora Jade is probably the only surprising release here, maybe Dakota Kai and Shayna Bazler too. Optics of it mostly being women is nasty though especially with an all women's PLE coming up. Although probably no one here was gonna get on.

Some will get looked at by AEW but I honestly think for all the jokes TNA is right there to do something with

Dakota is supposedly getting a lot of offers

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

wonder how much time lady frost got left on her AEW contract

 

[StatUS]

No, you just said she didn’t make anything interesting without specifying why. That could mean anything and the first thing a wrestling fan will think is booking.

First you bring up age, now you’re bringing up talent, all while arguing over fantasy booking that may not happen. I honestly don’t get why dudes jump topics for the sake of an argument. She may end up going back to MMA or something.

I just gave you her age as a past thru comment, I didn't think it would turn into a dissertation on wrestler's age and relative abilities

My thing is Shayna's last big push was 6 years ago. I was at the show when she won Elimination Chamber. It did not go over with the crowd at all. I can see why they had Becky beat her. The next big push she got was that terrible feud with Rousey. Everything she did in NXT past and the feud with Lola was fine. But she could never crossover on the bigger stage. We can blame booking for everything but she was on the main roster for a very long time. So why pay her a big salary at her age when there's people on the roster better? She'd be fine on ROH for less money. But Dakota's injured prone self and Jakara are much much much better potential signings.

 

[MenacingMonk]

I just gave you her age as a past thru comment, I didn't think it would turn into a dissertation on wrestler's age and relative abilities

My thing is Shayna's last big push was 6 years ago. I was at the show when she won Elimination Chamber. It did not go over with the crowd at all. I can see why they had Becky beat her. The next big push she got was that terrible feud with Rousey. Everything she did in NXT past and the feud with Lola was fine. But she could never crossover on the bigger stage. We can blame booking for everything but she was on the main roster for a very long time. So why pay her a big salary at her age when there's people on the roster better? She'd be fine on ROH for less money. But Dakota's injured prone self and Jakara are much much much better potential signings.

You’re the one who made up all these arguments tho.

You brought up her age. I said it didn’t matter.

you brought up how she hasn’t did anything meaningful on the roster, I said it was booking, then you brought up how it’s not that but she’s “mid and past her prime.” Now you’re talking booking.

Come on, man. Just let it go.

 

[julesocean]

It's time to run it back as a tag team

Mandy can show Gigi how to really get the OF poppin too

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

The crazy thing is that releases these days involve people that were actually midcard/upper midcard status with title reigns or major angles under their belts.

Back in the old deavors it would be jobbers or people long past their prime that has been languishing on the roster for years collecting checks. I think that first "budget cuts" release under Vince McMahon where Bray Wyatt got released along with Stroman (he was still somebody at that point) was when people started to realize it truly could be anyone.

HHH taking over kind of eased those tensions...
.for a bit but then TKO bought the company with a GRACE PERIOD to see who could get over, after that it's been business as usual with a guy like fukking Baron Corbin being released. I'm sure the anxiety is up and the morale is down again.

You can be used regularly, in high level midcard stories/feuds, right up until you get fired. In the next round of cuts guys like Kross and DIY are going to be on the bubble along with Tonga Loa (if he comes back and fails to get over), Austin Theory, Grayson Waller, the Wyatt Sick (whatever they have coming up will be the LAST CHANCE for anything Wyatt related on WWE TV), those various non lucha Mexicans on the roster not named Mysterio etc etc. It could go back to the days before "talent hoarding" where the WWE had almost no real midcard to speak of.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

I haven’t been week to week watching the WWE (and wrestling in general) like that, but when have the Wyatt Six last been on tv? And what feuds have they had since their initial one?

 

[Norrin Radd]

I haven’t been week to week watching the WWE (and wrestling in general) like that, but when have the Wyatt Six last been on tv? And what feuds have they had since their initial one?

December was the last time they showed up. They got beat my Miz and Karrion’s crew. Honestly thought they (or at least some of them) would’ve got cut in these releases.

 

[StatUS]

You’re the one who made up all these arguments tho.

You brought up her age. I said it didn’t matter.

you brought up how she hasn’t did anything meaningful on the roster, I said it was booking, then you brought up how it’s not that but she’s “mid and past her prime.” Now you’re talking booking.

Come on, man. Just let it go.

The reading comprehension level is wild

 

[MenacingMonk]

The reading comprehension level is wild

My guy, you’re the one jumping around.

Is it age? Is she boring because she’s “mid” (your words)? Is it booking, which you just wrote a long paragraph about? Is it oochie wally or one mic? Pick a road and stay in it.

 

[R=G]

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