Cool video: Ivory Coast cocoa farmers taste chocolate for first time

[2Quik4UHoes]

No, I havent. Chinese investment just doesnt much any much better than previous "foreign investments" in African resources. Like I said above, lets wait and see how the infrastructure helps out before lauding the Chinese for it. Also, Id like to know exactly how long the Chinese will own these resources. I cant see the Chinese letting go of that vice grip any time soon (5-10+ years).

The Chinese buy resources and get contracts for infrastructure projects, African countries have a willing buyer of their resources. Developing the infrastructure will bring the continent a step closer to industrialization and a more robust economy overall. Of course it would be better if Africa did shyt by its own hand but if you ask me China is a much better partner than the U.S. if we're talking results.

We'll see down the line, but as of now Africa is getting things its needed for a long time now.

 

[TTT]

The continent is not going to develop without much physical infrastructure and that's where the Chinese come into the picture. As a country that was recently underdeveloped they too understand that nothing is going to happen if infrastructure is not in place. African countries prior to the Chinese involvement relied a lot on either the bare minimum infrastructure left in place after colonialism and then turned to institutions in the West for development. The WB, IMF and other banks initially supported funding for those projects but later on either as a result of pressures from NGOs concerned about environmental effects from dam building and road constructions among others started pressuring them to focus on a lot more micro interventions sometimes going village by village. The thinking behind these projects for African governments is that they need to put the basic infrastructure in place before anything else, they could borrow from the capital markets but back when the Chinese started they would have been getting punitive interest rates. Issues such as power generation are such that South Africa 5 or 10 years back generated half the electricity in sub-Saharan Africa. The power situation was such that companies had to invest in generators adding to the cost of business and sometimes also had to construct roads.

In the case of Cote D'Ivoire they are like a tragic case given where they were in the 80s and 90s. They are like the cautionary tale of big man politics that plagued the continent throughout the 80s and 90s.They went from one of the most prosperous of countries on the continent attracting immigrants from all over based on that cocoa farming to now where we see videos of the farmers at the margins. Ghana had overtaken them in cocoa production but i am reading news about the depreciation of their currency and the Ghanians now smuggling cocoa into Ivory Coast to get better prices.

 

[BillBanneker]

The Chinese buy resources and get contracts for infrastructure projects, African countries have a willing buyer of their resources. Developing the infrastructure will bring the continent a step closer to industrialization and a more robust economy overall. Of course it would be better if Africa did shyt by its own hand but if you ask me China is a much better partner than the U.S. if we're talking results.

We'll see down the line, but as of now Africa is getting things its needed for a long time now.

Right, it's already a far better proposition than the Western Model since they just bypass the politicians that'll would likely take those funds and find a way to pocket it themselves or their cronies.

 

[Trajan]

Lol those guys are hilarious. fukked up tho.

Africans have to have a bigger manufacturing base. Selling the final product which ends up on the shelves. But that Infrastructure tho

 

[TRFG]

Simple life, brehs aint even complaining

 

[Poitier]

The men I employ are largely cocoa farmers, when they're not in the forest taking complex observational data on primate behavior and ecology.

So these are much smarter people than the simple-minded narrative implied by the video

 

[USSInsiders]

even the banana enclaves were better than this. dude was living in a shack.

amazing tho our people still find a way to smile and laugh (more than us) thru life.

I dunno, yeah it's fukked up, but at least they have a trade of some sort and they appear to be in a safe community.

It's a simple life, nothing wrong with that

 

[pete clemenza]

 

[blackzeus]

I heard yesterday 70% worlds supply is from there. I swear to god I get so heated thinking about the exploitation of Africa.

Reminds me of my grandfather who grew coffee saw meager profits while chains like Starbucks gain all the profits. Same as the cocoa farmers he never tasted a cup of his own brew just tea.

Well your pops didn't make the investment to start an international coffee chain breh. You can get heated all you want but it is what it is. He should be glad Starbucks is making his market liquid.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Well your pops didn't make the investment to start an international coffee chain breh. You can get heated all you want but it is what it is. He should be glad Starbucks is making his market liquid.

Lol thanks obama

 

[Ohene]

amazing tho our people still find a way to smile and laugh (more than us) thru life.

yet we insist on staying in north america/ europe and complaining. life

 

[Meta Reign]

So many complainers; not enough doers.

If you're so concerned about white exploitation, take advantage of your own resources as an American and do something to help. Go create a fukking chocolate factory that harvests and produces the final product in Africa, then export it to America.

Put people to work and pay them a fair wage in Africa. Put black people in America to work by handling marketing, sales and distribution.

Jesus Christ I'm so tired of the crying.

Anybody want to do something about it? I'll put up the first $5,000.

You just don't understand how the world really works, huh?

If you even dare to start a chocolate factory there, you'll have all sorts of acronym-ed global agencies looking to take you out. Whether through some sort of "illegal" WTO activity or via some paid off para-military swooping in and shooting shyt up on behalf of some global chocolate manufacturer (research Chiquita Banana in South America). This would ofcourse be under the guise of some mythical African dictator seeking to take control of the local cocoa supply. Anyone who dare tell the truth would just be dismissed as some sort of "conspiracy theorist".

This is how the world works, friend. Obama just gave a bootstraps speech to Africa, think he'd ever give an anti exploit speech to Hershey's?

 

[Meta Reign]

Oh, and I didn't write all of that to promote a defeatist attitude. . . Just need you guys to know your enemy, and how they operate. The first step is to find out whose toes you might be stepping on if you were to do such a thing

 

[UserNameless]

You just don't understand how the world really works, huh?

If you even dare to start a chocolate factory there, you'll have all sorts of acronym-ed global agencies looking to take you out. Whether through some sort of "illegal" WTO activity or via some paid off para-military swooping in and shooting shyt up on behalf of some global chocolate manufacturer (research Chiquita Banana in South America). This would ofcourse be under the guise of some mythical African dictator seeking to take control of the local cocoa supply. Anyone who dare tell the truth would just be dismissed as some sort of "conspiracy theorist".

This is how the world works, friend. Obama just gave a bootstraps speech to Africa, think he'd ever give an anti exploit speech to Hershey's?

Right. Building it in Africa probably wouldn't be the best look without some measure of geopolitical pull.

I applaud his ambition... a tad outside of reality, but ambitious nonetheless.


He'd fare much better trying to build here, tho.


Prolific posting, btw.