Coparenting in a different state from where your kids live...

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Respect your point of view, it isn't mine, though. I know exactly what being an active father means...

I already do what I want to do, and I have plenty of fun in Raleigh. Those aren't reasons I'm looking to move, and if it was that simplistic, I woulda been left; I just said that I've always been in same city/state as my kids, and my oldest is 8. So thats 8½ years of staying in place...

Understood. I’m sure you’re active and in your children’s lives. What I’m saying though is it’s physically impossible to be an active father living states away. It’s just not possible. So what I listed out is exactly what being an “active” father would look like in the circumstances you’re proposing.

Again. Every decision comes with a cost. Realized or not. Acknowledge it. That’s just the facts.
 

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So that’s all done if you move to Denver. This is one of those real problems with no easy solution.

I lived one state over from my son before and I would see him on weekends, but moving across country is something else entirely.

How would you manage the lack of quality time? Can you deal with the consequences of not being there?

We gotta stop the cap.

This is a manufactured problem with an easy solution. OP needs to sit down and stay where his kids are at until they are old enough to be ok with living states away. OP is making money handling his responsibilities right now. Why throw that out of balance.

I know I’m all in this thread but I’ll never advocate for a black father to willingly up and move away from his children especially for no legitimate reason (taking care of a close relative at their end of life, job loss, mental breakdown etc,.).
 

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It's impossible to coparent virtually
You can't even be a weekend dad :dead:
Can't attend any PTA meetings, go to any school events, probably miss the majority of birthdays and holidays
I guess you can get the kids for the entire summer in the best case scenario but in the majority of situations you'll be abandoning your kids and paying child support
 

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Yeah my ex wife said she was gonna take my son to LA when we split up and I put a stop to that. fukk that co parenting across state lines unless it's a town like Texarkana or Kansas City. My oldest brothers dad moved to Chicago when he was 4 and he hardly has a relationship with his pops because of it. It's impossible unless yo bread is LONG and you can make trips CONSTANTLY. If you love your daughters and want to be a father it's either get custody and take them with you or you stuck in Raleigh my boy.
 

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We gotta stop the cap.

This is a manufactured problem with an easy solution. OP needs to sit down and stay where his kids are at until they are old enough to be ok with living states away. OP is making money handling his responsibilities right now. Why throw that out of balance.

I know I’m all in this thread but I’ll never advocate for a black father to willingly up and move away from his children especially for no legitimate reason (taking care of a close relative at their end of life, job loss, mental breakdown etc,.).
It’s not easy because the future is uncertain. The opportunities he has available now, may not be there years down the line. He has to be able to live with the decisions, whether to leave or stay.
 

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It’s not easy because the future is uncertain. The opportunities he has available now, may not be there years down the line. He has to be able to live with the decisions, whether to leave or stay.

This is the last comment I’ll make because my position won’t change on this.

It’s quite simple. One thing that is certain for sure is your children don’t get another childhood. Money comes and goes. Opportunities come and go. There’s no lifetime where I choose a job opportunity or money over being there during my son’s childhood.

You got mothers and fathers everyday trying to make up for lost time.

Whatever decision OP makes I hope he will be ok with the consequences.
 

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These are terrible posts 🤣 but I get where yall coming from. This is why I asked if anyone here has done it...

I'm not "unhappy" in Raleigh, but my earning potential is limited if I choose to stay. And there's obviously a correlation between what I can make, and the luxury of what I can provide for my kids (not to mention myself)...
Focus on actually being around your kids breh…

fukk the money or living comfortable.

They only have one childhood
 

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All I'm gonna say is this @murksiderock father to father(I have custody of my son now I'm a full time dad), if the job opportunity you are leaving your kids for isn't like some TRULY life changing shyt(talking like 6 figures plus increase in pay from what you are already making) it ain't worth it to leave your kids.
Co-sign, the potential effects later will make you regret it.
 

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So that’s all done if you move to Denver. This is one of those real problems with no easy solution.

I lived one state over from my son before and I would see him on weekends, but moving across country is something else entirely.

How would you manage the lack of quality time? Can you deal with the consequences of not being there?
I guess emotionally, I'm trying to be okay with sacrificing consistent time with them, with the fact I'll make more money, but get to see them more in summer...

Our current agreement with my oldest kids' mom, is I see them first 3 weekends, Friday evening to Sunday evening. That's 6 days/month, 84 days/year. There are random occasions I get the girls during a school week, but they are rare, so let's say within a year's time, they spend about ~3 other overnights per year with me. That's an average of 87 days/year with me...

I've been traveling for work since January 2022, and on average I travel about ~4 months a year (124 days). I obviously haven't moved from Raleigh, and the position that I travel for, pays more than when I'm at home, so I sacrifice the normal time I get with the girls while I'm gone, so in reality I see the girls probably ~60 overnights/year...

We have our final mediation date to attempt to reach an agreement on the 17th, she's long opposed giving me more time with the girls...

I guess I should add here, that while I have a "good" job that I enjoy, I am in the market for another job with a higher salary, as I've hit a ceiling in my current company, unless I move to Denver with them. Prior to yesterday, I've filled out 9 apps this year, and been on 3 interviews, nothing has clicked yet. Like I said, I don't absolutely "need" a new job, I have a good one, but if I can find the right situation, I'll take it...

I'm giving this backdrop because you asked what I'd do in absence of quality time. I only have them about ~60 days/year as is, if I move, I can make that time back, let's say, with ~7 weeks in summer (42 days) coming to see me wherever I live; at least ~14 days of holiday time with me (so that puts me at 56 days as we've already agreed to a rotating holiday schedule); and there are probably at least 4 days during the school year that I could make it back and see them. So from a pure math equation, I've rationalized that I could still see them woth the frequency that I see them when I'm at home...

My youngest daughter lives an hour from me, and I see her, when I see my oldest girls, as realistically I can't drive 2-hours round-trip each day, though I'll say that if she lived in the same city as me, her mom would let me have her more than just weekends...

But to your question of, can I deal with the consequences of not physically being there, my honest answer is I don't know that I can. It's weighed on me plenty, and I'll repeat again, I've always lived in the same city, or within an hour, of my daughters, in the 8+ years I've been a father. Obviously I was with their mothers for a time (with my oldests' mom, until my oldest was 3; with my youngest's mom, until she was 15 months); so over 4 years of being in the home, with my children when I was with their mothers...

And the other 4+ years I've been a dad, I've always been in the same city, or an hour away...

So it would be a significant emotional adjustment, if I moved to another state, and you know what, I don't know how willing I am to do this, honestly. That goes beyond the math equation, because being in arm's reach does allow for a different presence in their lives, and in the same time zone allows for having a different presence...

So it really has me revisiting a thought I've had before:

Going to Sacramento (or Denver) in the summers, staying in Raleigh in the school year. So all I really need is a summer schedule, that alots for me having the girls with me in the summer, and scratches my itch of getting away from Raleigh part time, exposing my kids to different areas, etc. This is a thought I've had for over a year, that allows me to still be in their lives as is, with no major adjustment, and I've had this idea for longer than I've had the thought of just relocating entirely...
Understood. I’m sure you’re active and in your children’s lives. What I’m saying though is it’s physically impossible to be an active father living states away. It’s just not possible. So what I listed out is exactly what being an “active” father would look like in the circumstances you’re proposing.

Again. Every decision comes with a cost. Realized or not. Acknowledge it. That’s just the facts.

We gotta stop the cap.

This is a manufactured problem with an easy solution. OP needs to sit down and stay where his kids are at until they are old enough to be ok with living states away. OP is making money handling his responsibilities right now. Why throw that out of balance.

I know I’m all in this thread but I’ll never advocate for a black father to willingly up and move away from his children especially for no legitimate reason (taking care of a close relative at their end of life, job loss, mental breakdown etc,.).
I appreciate your responses, bruh!
No way in hell my kids not gonna be under the same roof as me.. got me all the way fukked up :dahell:
I once said this 🤣 it isn't that simple once you and the kids' mom break up, unless she willingly gives primary custody to you, or she is otherwise an unfit mother...
 

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What success stories?
Well I saw this chick on IG the other day (everybody is black, by the way) who lives in Charlotte, her kids' father lives in Iowa, and she said they have a great coparenting schedule and alternate between him coming to Charlotte to see his daughter, and her flying to take her daughter to him...

I also have a homeboy who has kids in Florida, NC, and NJ, and lives in Florida; have another homeboy who has kids in NC, NY, and Maine, and lives in Maine. His oldest son is almost 16 and actually lives with him, and in both cases, both guys appear to be involved with their kids, but you know what, I really don't know. I don't talk to them all the time nor do I know the intricacies of the relationships woth their kids...
It's impossible to coparent virtually
You can't even be a weekend dad :dead:
Can't attend any PTA meetings, go to any school events, probably miss the majority of birthdays and holidays
I guess you can get the kids for the entire summer in the best case scenario but in the majority of situations you'll be abandoning your kids and paying child support
Well I put myself on child support for my two oldest in 2021, finalized in '22, so that's not a concern...

But you know what, I didn't explain that even when the girls aren't staying the night with me, I still get to see them during the school week. PTA meetings, dance and swim practices, I get to attend all those things. As they get older, they'll be in more activities, and I wouldn't be able to give THEM this experience, the experience and memories of knowing their dad is at their stuff, if I leave...

You're right, fam!
Yeah my ex wife said she was gonna take my son to LA when we split up and I put a stop to that. fukk that co parenting across state lines unless it's a town like Texarkana or Kansas City. My oldest brothers dad moved to Chicago when he was 4 and he hardly has a relationship with his pops because of it. It's impossible unless yo bread is LONG and you can make trips CONSTANTLY. If you love your daughters and want to be a father it's either get custody and take them with you or you stuck in Raleigh my boy.
You're right bro, and you know what, I like Raleigh, it's not Raleigh that is the reason I want to leave. It's the relative ceiling to my earning potential here as opposed to elsewhere, and being where my extended family is. Raleigh itself is a cool place and fine with me, and my kids are there (youngest daughter in Fayetteville), so its that much more fine...

I do gotta ask though, for you why would you be okay with Texarkana or KC, but not LA? 😂
 
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