Cops Turn Their Back on DeBlasio As He Enters Presser for Murdered Cops

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If cops turning their backs on the mayor are out of control, childish, a$$holes, etc........what are liberal protestors who loot stores, burn down buildings, shut down major freeways, etc????
 

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If cops turning their backs on the mayor are out of control, childish, a$$holes, etc........what are liberal protestors who loot stores, burn down buildings, shut down major freeways, etc????
where did this happen in NYC?
 

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I just finished looking at some of those back turned photos taken at the funeral and saw a few sprinkles of black faces in the crowd. All I can say is, I just had to backspace over what I really want to say. But those filthy vermin are giving black faces to evil and deserve anything that befalls them. I am so fukking disgusted right now
 

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Read what you wrote. Only the police commissioner can fire the officers BUT, who can fire the Police Commissioner and appoint someone else? The fukking mayor!

Read this, and see, the mayor is about to cut some heads, and bratton is with it.

http://www.ny1.com/content/news/220...-back-at-police-unions-following-funeral-ban/
Mayor, Police Commissioner Fire Back at Police Unions Following Funeral Ban
"Some voices in this city have decided to be divisive," said Mayor Bill de Blasio.

"It was a step too far, a step too far," said Police Commissioner William Bratton.

Those comments were directed at one union in particular: the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association.

"That statement on Friday by the PBA was just plain divisive and unacceptable," de Blasio said.

Icy rhetoric from Mayor de Blasio and a staunch defense from Police Commissioner Bill Bratton came in response to a call from the city's police officers' union to ban the mayor and the council speaker from NYPD funerals.

It's the latest clash in what's become an increasingly contentious relationship between City Hall and several police unions.

"What we have is a mayor that really has no regard for the NYPD. I am not really even sure if he is doing his job as mayor," said Sergeants Benevolent Association President Edward Mullins.

"This is serious business that we're dealing with and to diminish by unnecessary personal attacks to advance professional goals is unnecessary," Bratton said.

"Responding to self-interested critics with histrionic voices just doesn't get you very far, so that's all I have to say," the mayor said.

It has become so fractured that Cardinal Timothy Dolan penned an op-ed on Monday calling the PBA's criticism "unfair."

The two unions clashing with the mayor—the sergeants and the police officers—are both without contracts.

Gross: "Would you welcome the mayor to a sergeant's funeral?"
Mullins: "That's not up for me to decide. That's up for the sergeant and his family to decide."

The sergeants are still negotiating with City Hall. As for the PBA, its contract is in arbitration. Its president, Pat Lynch, is now up for re-election, seeking a fifth term.

In response to the mayor's comments, Lynch did release this statement on Monday: "It is very clear to me that the mayor has no idea of just how angry New York City police officers are at him for his lack of support and for laying decades of society’s problems undeservedly at their feet."

i think you should re- read what you quoted

the mayor cant afford to fire bratton least not now - and bratton cant fire cops JUST because they disagree with the mayor ( he certainly cant fire the union heads and bigs )

you posted a bunch of stuff about them being at war with city hall now - they BEEN at war since the mayor had that whole fall out from his wifes "assistant"

none of what you posted says what he can do OTHER than fire Bratton who he has publicly aligned himself with ( and bratton has defended him ) so his firing bratton is dont see that happening - bratton is the one asset he has - firing bratton who has publically supported him would be shooting himself in the foot - and he cant insist bratton go out and try to punish the upper tiers commanders - that would put him at a huge disadvantage

the mayor is already on the outs with firemen ( a lot of whom are ex cops or related to cops ) over the closing of firehouses , hes on the outs with corrections because of the whole rikers island standards and the fed coming in , hes now at war with the MTA workers because his office set down new rules that drivers have o be arrested if they are involved in an accident that results in a fatality like what happened last week - the whoel B44 and B41 workers refused to go out and do their runs for hours

- and the teachers are pissed over the contract that basically says they have to wait 10 years to get a raise

landlords have been griping with him and people who own houses are upset about the new water and ppty tax rates

so in less than a year teh dude is already on the outs with several working class groups and people that vote - and there is still contracts that have to be settled which the city has to pay for and pay more as they wait longer and longer

so i dunno where you get he getting ready to fire anybody - the reality is he cant fire anyone certainly not the commissioner - that would be all types of stupid and he has no input on firing cops OTHER than the commissioner who is mos def not firing cops - he barely has enough cops as is since the city has the number of cops it had 15 years ago and cant afford to really hire anymore
 
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New York City mayor heckled, booed at police graduation
By Jonathan Allen and Sebastien Malo

NEW YORK Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:54pm EST



1 of 2. New York Mayor Bill de Blasio walks away from the podium after speaking to the New York City Police Academy Graduating class in New York December 29, 2014.

Credit: Reuters/Carlo Allegri

NEW YORK (Reuters) - New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio on Monday drew heckles and boos along with applause when he addressed graduating police cadets on Monday, two days after thousands of uniformed officers turned their backs on him at a slain policeman's funeral.

The mayor's speech came as he struggles to mend the most toxic rift between police and City Hall in decades. The United States' biggest city has become a focal point in a national debate over the killings of unarmed black men by white police.

Some booed as the mayor began his address to 884 graduating cadets at Manhattan's Madison Square Garden arena, in which he warmly praised the Police Department.



"You will confront all the problems that plague our society," he told the new officers. "Problems that you didn't create."

A heckler cried out, "You created them!"

Some in the audience applauded and cheered the outburst. De Blasio, briefly flustered, continued with his speech, which closed to polite applause.

In the audience, a dozen or so people turned their backs on the mayor, repeating a gesture by thousands of officers from around the country at Saturday's funeral for Police Officer Rafael Ramos. Police first turned their backs on the mayor a week earlier when he arrived at the hospital where Ramos and his partner, Wenjian Liu, were taken after they were shot.

After the ceremony, some of the new officers said they appreciated de Blasio's words of support.

Before the mayor had even finished speaking, his press office sent an email to journalists, apparently prepared in advance, pointing out that it was not the first time a New York mayor was booed at a police graduation. The email included snippets from old news reports about de Blasio's three predecessors getting similar treatment.

Asked whether police had turned their backs on other mayors, Marti Adams, a spokeswoman for de Blasio, said she would have to double-check.

The rift between de Blasio and many in the police department preceded his taking office. De Blasio, who is nearing the end of his first year as mayor, made police reform a main theme of his campaign. He was especially critical of the police's "stop and frisk" tactics supported by his predecessor, Michael Bloomberg.

The rift deepened when de Blasio expressed qualified support for protests sparked by the deaths of unarmed black men at the hands of white police officers.

Some officers began openly shunning de Blasio after Ramos and Liu were ambushed and shot dead as they sat in their squad car in Brooklyn.

The man who killed them, Ismaaiyl Brinsley, said he was avenging the deaths of two unarmed black men who died in confrontations with white officers last summer in Ferguson, Missouri, and New York. Brinsley killed himself a few minutes later.

Officer Liu's wake was scheduled for Saturday in Brooklyn and his funeral for Sunday.

The slaying of Ramos and Liu has become a rallying point for police forces beleaguered by months of demonstrations against police tactics in New York and other cities.

The demonstrations began in August after a white police officer fatally shot an unarmed black man, Michel Brown, 18, in Ferguson. The shooting and a grand jury's decision not to indict the officer, Darren Wilson, triggered months of often-violent protests in the St. Louis suburb. [ID: nL1N0U80BA]

On July 17, Eric Garner, a 43-year-old black man, died after New York police put him in a banned chokehold while arresting him for illegally selling cigarettes. The grand jury in that case decided not to indict the officer who applied the chokehold, Daniel Pantaleo. [ID: nL2N0TN291] The U.S. Justice Department is conducting a civil rights investigation.

Brown and Garner's cases have drawn the most attention, but there have been other controversial deaths involving police since August.

(Additional reporting by Barbara Goldberg; Editing by Eric Beech and Jonathan Oatis)


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i think you should re- read what you quoted

the mayor cant afford to fire bratton least not now - and bratton cant fire cops JUST because they disagree with the mayor ( he certainly cant fire the union heads and bigs )

you posted a bunch of stuff about them being at war with city hall now - they BEEN at war since the mayor had that whole fall out from his wifes "assistant"

none of what you posted says what he can do OTHER than fire Bratton who he has publicly aligned himself with ( and bratton has defended him ) so his firing bratton is dont see that happening - bratton is the one asset he has - firing bratton who has publically supported him would be shooting himself in the foot - and he cant insist bratton go out and try to punish the upper tiers commanders - that would put him at a huge disadvantage

the mayor is already on the outs with firemen ( a lot of whom are ex cops or related to cops ) over the closing of firehouses , hes on the outs with corrections because of the whole rikers island standards and the fed coming in , hes now at war with the MTA workers because his office set down new rules that drivers have o be arrested if they are involved in an accident that results in a fatality like what happened last week - the whoel B44 and B41 workers refused to go out and do their runs for hours

- and the teachers are pissed over the contract that basically says they have to wait 10 years to get a raise

landlords have been griping with him and people who own houses are upset about the new water and ppty tax rates

so in less than a year teh dude is already on the outs with several working class groups and people that vote - and there is still contracts that have to be settled which the city has to pay for and pay more as they wait longer and longer

so i dunno where you get he getting ready to fire anybody - the reality is he cant fire anyone certainly not the commissioner - that would be all types of stupid and he has no input on firing cops OTHER than the commissioner who is mos def not firing cops - he barely has enough cops as is since the city has the number of cops it had 15 years ago and cant afford to really hire anymore
Who said now? He is a mayor for the next three years. You are just arguing to prove your point, and don't want to be wrong. If you can read, the point is that bratton is NOT going along with police because he knows if the mayor is unhappy, his job is on the line.

Second, the police have been at war(another word for contract negotiations) with the city BUT, this mayor isn't like the rest, and they know it. Like the saying goes pride comes before the fall, and they know its about to be a change. Any other mayor would have stopped the protests, or fought against them, but, it didn't happen this time. That alone tells you this mayor isn't like the rest.

Thirdly, because they have to renew contracts, this is the perfect time for the mayor to play the game his way. Chances are he is going to hit them on paper, not necessarily fire them. There is so many ways to hurt people when you are in his position, and from those quotes, he is working on something. Its all about reading between the lines. I see it because its exactly how I talk when I plan on getting payback, and don't want a negative stigma.

Just watch how things start changing big time next year. The public might not see it but, if you pay attention to who is who, I don't doubt you will see new faces in certain positions. I slept on De blasio, but, he knows how to play the game. You have this thinking that because the people in positions now are unhappy that it will stay that way. All he has to do is get people who are willing to work with him, and do their job, and the old people are gone. Simple as that. As long as no contracts are signed, everything is up for grabs. This is business, not friendship. His job is to have a safe city, and people living satisfactory, NOTHING MORE!
 
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"You will confront all the problems that plague our society," De Blasio told the new officers. "Problems that you didn't create."

A heckler cried out, "You created them!


why is this LIE being allowed to continue :what: people are mad at the cop who killed garner and the grand jury. its not de blasios fault that he acknowledged racial profiling :beli:
 

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Plane Flies Over NYC With Banner Declaring "De Blasio, Our Backs Have Turned to You"
Hours before the wake for slain NYPD officer Rafael Ramos, a small plane flew over NYC with a banner reading "De Blasio, Our Backs Have Turned to You."

It's unclear who paid for the message, but John Cardillo, a blogger and former NYPD cop, says he was contacted by a "coalition of NYPD cops, Detectives, and supervisors" and asked to release this statement:

As a large and unified group of current and retired NYC Police Officers, Detectives, & Supervisors, we are outraged by the mayor’s incendiary rhetoric, and for facilitating the current hostile climate towards the NYPD. We understand that the department and even our own unions can only go so far in their public condemnation of the mayor as to not irreparably damage the working relationship with the city, or future contract negotiations.
“It is our opinion that Mayor de Blasio’s dangerous and irresponsible comments about his and his wife’s concern for their son’s safety at the hands of the NYPD fueled the flames that led to civil unrest, and potentially to the deaths of PO Wenjian Liu and PO Rafael Ramos, as well as the continued threats against NYPD personnel. The Mayor shows us no respect, and encourages the public to follow his lead.

“Mayor de Blasio clearly doesn’t understand nor care that every man and woman of the NYPD would give their life to protect his son, his family, and every other resident of New York City. Tragically, two of our Finest made that ultimate sacrifice days before Christmas.

“We no longer have confidence in Mayor de Blasio, nor in his ability to lead New York City and promote the values that both the NYPD and the good law abiding citizens of the city hold dear. Mayor de Blasio turned his back on us long before we turned our backs on him."



The NYPD's biggest police union, the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association, has declined to comment on the banner. Earlier this week, Mayor de Blasio said the police unions had agreed to pause their attacks on the administration until after the funerals for Officer Ramos and Officer Wenjian Liu.

De Blasio, like every NYC mayor in recent history, has been excoriated by police union leaders, but the rhetoric grew particularly vitriolic after the officers were executed in Bed-Stuy on Saturday. PBA president Pat Lynch immediately said City Hall had blood on its hands, and a group of officers turned their backs on de Blasio when he arrived at the hospital where Ramos and Liu were pronounced dead.

The leaders of the police unions and some rank-and-file officers were angered by de Blasio's comments in the wake of the Eric Garner grand jury decision. At a press conference following the announcement that the jury would not indict an officer who put Garner in a chokehold during his fatal arrest, de Blasio recalled how he's told his son Dante to be careful when interacting with police. His subsequent support for the protests which swept the city also upset police union leaders.

Officer Ramos's funeral will be held on Saturday. De Blasio is expected to attend, as is Vice President Joe Biden. (Liu’s funeral arrangements have yet to be announced.)http://gothamist.com/2014/12/26/de_blasio_cops_backs.php
 

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Well the last congressional republican from NY just resigned. Politically the city is still a liberal stronghold. Unfortunately, political power isn't everything.

But I'm confident De Blasio will pull through. The worst thing he can do is pull a "moderate" move and try to appease both sides. You either need all of the support of the Police Union or all of the support of the people.

As long as you have cops that agree with changing the system for the better, he needs to stay the course.
 
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