Cormega gives MC Hammer his flowers. Hammer responds in the comments

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Nostalgia is a helluva drug

“Time to give Hammer his flowers”
:mjlol: :mjlol: :mjlol:

Yeah if you've got nostalgia over some music you liked as a kid then that's cool but we've got to stop acting like everything that came out in the 90s and earlier was great and classic.

Mfs made a thread praising Mase's Double Up :deadrose:
 
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Yeah if you've got nostalgia over some music you liked as a kid then that's cool but we've got to stop acting like everything that came out in the 90s and earlier was great and classic.

Mfs made a thread praising Mase's Double Up :deadrose:


Hammer made legit classics AND was a trailblazer. If Hammer don’t deserve flowers then neither does any rapper who ever went Platinum
 

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Hammer had very minimal lyrical and rapping ability, danced and performed in a c00nish manner, became huge and also helped popularized that formula.

So arguably, Hammer helped further commercialize and water down rap and hip hop as a culture.

I grew up on this so while I respect Mega, let's not forget the fuller context.


Dancing is not beeing a c00n. Yall nyggas are so retarded. Its black music culture to dance.

Once you sign a contract, your music is commercial.
 

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I once watched this man walk out of underground downtown Oakland venue known as “the bassment” (not basement but BASSment) and he just walked away from the crowd of people, walked around the corner and got into his car and headed back to Tracy
 

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Yeah if you've got nostalgia over some music you liked as a kid then that's cool but we've got to stop acting like everything that came out in the 90s and earlier was great and classic.

Mfs made a thread praising Mase's Double Up :deadrose:
You actin like I won’t find ya and leave ya
Pull that hoodie over ya head and put 5 in ya Caesar
Doubt me now
and die a believer/
Run and catch bullets like a wide receiver


🔥, that’s the only thing I remember about that album, 😆, that shh was hard
 

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We gotta call it what it is, the game hated on Hammer. It wasn't "cool" to be mainstream or commercial back then. Stuff rappers do now, like endorsements, commercials, etc was seen as "selling out" in the early 90s. At his peak, Hammer was worth like 30 million. This is in 91! when a rapper getting that kinda money was unheard of. There were brehs going platinum that never saw 1 million let along 30. Its crazy how he's damn near never mentioned for as big as he was.
It wasn't just that though, cause Run DMC did 2 movies by then, Kid N Play were mainstays. Fresh Prince was on TV by then. It was really because he took it far elsewhere. Fat Boys did 2 movies, even though The Disorderlies got some side-eye. LL had made hella cameos.

He wasn't seen as hip-hop, as that was the main problem. He was seen as hip-pop, and someone that encroached on the culture. And him and Vanilla Ice pretty much being the same, also hurt him. It was until the hip-hop community started having interactions with him '92-ish, that they really understood and appreciated his contributions.
 

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Hammer was the first rapper that could stand next to the pop stars of the day and not look like a supporting cast member. Some heads are old enough to remember how rap verses on R&B and pop songs had the rapper treated like a session bass player or something. He’d get 20 seconds and you open the lyric insert on the tape and just see [rap]. For example Mopreme’s verse on Feels Good. Classic but he had like 5 bars

He deserves his flowers. Hip Hop had him in the wrong context, nikkas were afraid that Hammer was going to produce a bunch of other Hammers which to be fair would have been bad for the music. But he showed he owned the lane he was in and because of him money was made for everybody. Half a decade later Diddy is doing full choreography with Sting at the VMAs and nobody says a word.
 

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To call hammer a sellout and a c00n was ridiculous . But I didn’t understand at that time being younger and because nikkas wanted to stay gangsta or on some black power tip..

But these mc serches, ice cubes and even run should thank that nikka for opening up other options for these nikkas could eat..

This nikka was feeding all black dancers in his entourage and trying to help others put on in the bay and California..
 

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Hammer had very minimal lyrical and rapping ability, danced and performed in a c00nish manner, became huge and also helped popularized that formula.
How? Don't talk about that chicken commercial.


Yeah if you've got nostalgia over some music you liked as a kid then that's cool but we've got to stop acting like everything that came out in the 90s and earlier was great and classic.

Mfs made a thread praising Mase's Double Up :deadrose:
Hammer SHOOK the world.

He deserved to be mentioned. You can't compare him and his run to Double Up.
 

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People had a lot of issues with Hammer, some were actually justified though.

He's a legend and I always thought his music was cool for a certain kind of listener. But what MC's at the time didn't like, was that Hip Hop was in a stage where it was trying to be taken seriously and Hammer was basically doing the opposite. the culture was very afrocentric and anti-establishment. And if you did any endorsements, you were supposed to do sh*t that spoke to Hip Hop and its core values. Hammer once again, did the opposite, and was dancing with a bucket of chicken in his arms. LOL!!

So in '91, this was definitely seen as shuckin' and jivin', and for the culture, the definition of selling out. The dancing aspect to his act wasn't seen as Hip Hop. If you were an artist back then, you would get dancers, but you weren't supposed to be dancing harder than your actual dancers, lol. So that was a tough sell for a lot of MC's back then because the dancing was kinda the only thing Hammer was good at. He wasn't really an MC or even rapper. He was a dancer. But mainstream America would push him as the biggest Hip Hop artist, in commercials and all that, and then dude would just start dancing all crazy. That's what got him hated on.

It wasn't that he was doing deals. A lot of rappers had deals and cartoons back then. Kid & Play and Tone Loc come to mind. A lot of other rappers had commercials pitching soda, beer, and all kinds of sh*t, but no one ever called them a sellout. Hammer was an entertainer. And people like Cube and Tribe wanted him to be called "pop" and not Hip Hop because they didn't see a dancing dude as one of them, and I get it. His impact was crazy, but I think the dancing all over the place thing, is really what bothered MC's back then. Everyone wants to hop on Hammer's d*ck now, but back in the day, no one wanted to show him any love. But the truth is, Hammer did sell out, and was a driving force in watering down the culture. His whole repetoire felt very minstrel back then.
 
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