Cormega gives MC Hammer his flowers. Hammer responds in the comments

[W.I.Z.E.]

dont play stupid.. U know wtf you said

Ah, so you reread and realized you made a point based on poor reading comprehension and now you’re shifting to name calling.

 

[Buckeye Fever]

Real ones know Hammer was that dude and wasn't a punk.

I remember an Outkast interview and Hammer's name came up. They was like "run up on Hammer if you want to. Hammer gon' beat yo muthafukkin' ass"

 

[Walt]

Yeah if you've got nostalgia over some music you liked as a kid then that's cool but we've got to stop acting like everything that came out in the 90s and earlier was great and classic.

Mfs made a thread praising Mase's Double Up

I saw that! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

The "Black Excellence" era has turned these goofy nikkas tribal and retarded. Not to mention capitalistic. If something was successful, it was worthy of praise and flowers. If a nikka did it and he was on tv, it was a good thing.

If everything deserves flowers, then nothing deserves flowers. If everything is excellent, then nothing is excellent. There's nothing empowering or radical about choosing boosterism over criticism. It's just mindless dikkriding, and degrades the standard of meaningful art and cultural contributions. Hammer was a tacky dancing ass wack rapping bozo who somehow got even more embarrassing with time and started dancing in a speedo. I have no idea why people are so excited that the dude actually grew up in Oaktown. And? I grew up in the hood too, and the bulk of the people there were wack at rapping when they tried too. I can't imagine thinking "yeah, this nikka shyt trash - but he from down the street so I gotta give him his flowers." nikka, please. fukk Hammer's corny ass.

 

[Dynamite James]

I get ur point however here's why Hammw wasn't and even till this day, isn't received well in the hip hop community.


Run DMC and then LL were bringing world attention to Hip Hip. LL did it with lyrics, accessible clothes and bottom line represented what was seen as "real"

Hammer se took this to another level however,.I'd he were more lyrical, or even if he were a conscious rapper, that then became as successful, the whole landscape would've changed


After Hamer, record execs and other's, looked for watered down rap and pushed that.

False

 

[Walt]

People had a lot of issues with Hammer, some were actually justified though.

He's a legend and I always thought his music was cool for a certain kind of listener. But what MC's at the time didn't like, was that Hip Hop was in a stage where it was trying to be taken seriously and Hammer was basically doing the opposite. the culture was very afrocentric and anti-establishment. And if you did any endorsements, you were supposed to do sh*t that spoke to Hip Hop and its core values. Hammer once again, did the opposite, and was dancing with a bucket of chicken in his arms. LOL!!

So in '91, this was definitely seen as shuckin' and jivin', and for the culture, the definition of selling out. The dancing aspect to his act wasn't seen as Hip Hop. If you were an artist back then, you would get dancers, but you weren't supposed to be dancing harder than your actual dancers, lol. So that was a tough sell for a lot of MC's back then because the dancing was kinda the only thing Hammer was good at. He wasn't really an MC or even rapper. He was a dancer. But mainstream America would push him as the biggest Hip Hop artist, in commercials and all that, and then dude would just start dancing all crazy. That's what got him hated on.

It wasn't that he was doing deals. A lot of rappers had deals and cartoons back then. Kid & Play and Tone Loc come to mind. A lot of other rappers had commercials pitching soda, beer, and all kinds of sh*t, but no one ever called them a sellout. Hammer was an entertainer. And people like Cube and Tribe wanted him to be called "pop" and not Hip Hop because they didn't see a dancing dude as one of them, and I get it. His impact was crazy, but I think the dancing all over the place thing, is really what bothered MC's back then. Everyone wants to hop on Hammer's d*ck now, but back in the day, no one wanted to show him any love. But the truth is, Hammer did sell out, and was a driving force in watering down the culture. His whole repetoire felt very minstrel back then.

Absolutely. And to top it off, the music was absolute fukkin garbage. nikka was making lite fm rap music. Have You Seen Her was so embarrassing I had to walk out my cousin's room when the video was playing. I mean, I guess if you want to be like "hey, you was just a nikka trying to get paid in a world that's always especially rough on black men, and you caught a lot of flak from your own people, and at the end of the day you still a nikka like I'm a nikka and I want to recognize you still a man" cool. But flowers? For spittin trash ass cartoon rap over happy jack beats?

Seeing it was Cormega who posted it made this shyt like 100 time more hilarious. Hip Hop at 50 is really some mid-life crisis shyt. It has never taken itself more seriously while being the most absurd it has ever been.

 

[Walt]

They're gonna go Vanilla Ice next.

Give Father MC his flowers

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

He need a Doc.
These young folks don't understand how big dude was at one point.

I seen the vh1 special.. he was the man

 

[DANJ!]

I just want nikkas to stop actin' like he was some legit rapper that was supposed to be regarded as great in that aspect and was unfairly being targeted, that's all.

He was a great onstage performer who made pop-friendly music, nothing terribly wrong with that. The problem was, while doing that, he was also sneak dissing other MCs and got dissed in return. Also, he and Vanilla Ice were being snatched up by the white mainstream and being used as the face of rap, while they villainized the rest of hip-hop. So some of his criticism was undeserved and he helped his community a lot, so the "sellout" word was inaccurate. Don't get me wrong in retrospect, I respect what Hammer did as an entertainer. But let's not start acting like he was somehow beyond backlash or like y'all bump his shyt We gotta let reality creep in somewhere.

 

[Monoblock]

Real ones know Hammer was that dude and wasn't a punk.

I remember an Outkast interview and Hammer's name came up. They was like "run up on Hammer if you want to. Hammer gon' beat yo muthafukkin' ass"

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

Real ones know Hammer was that dude and wasn't a punk.

I remember an Outkast interview and Hammer's name came up. They was like "run up on Hammer if you want to. Hammer gon' beat yo muthafukkin' ass"

But he was wack as fukk. Wasn’t nobody trying to hear that shyt.

 

[Jigganaut]

He made good music for kids which I was at the time.

 

[MajesticLion]

That album was great, it just happened to come out in the middle of the soundscape where NWA opened the door for a lot of non-dance-friendly content. If Hammer had come out in 86-87 everybody would have loved him. The gangsta rap crowd just were.not.tryna.hear.it. lmao


Respect due to that man.

 

[TrifeGod]

He need a Doc.
These young folks don't understand how big dude was at one point.

They had a MC Hammer Doc back in the 90s on TV, wouldn't hurt to make a new one

 

[_DC]

That Hammer run was crazy!!! He definitely deserves his respect..

 

[bigde09]

Hammer was the first rapper that could stand next to the pop stars of the day and not look like a supporting cast member. Some heads are old enough to remember how rap verses on R&B and pop songs had the rapper treated like a session bass player or something. He’d get 20 seconds and you open the lyric insert on the tape and just see [rap]. For example Mopreme’s verse on Feels Good. Classic but he had like 5 bars

He deserves his flowers. Hip Hop had him in the wrong context, nikkas were afraid that Hammer was going to produce a bunch of other Hammers which to be fair would have been bad for the music. But he showed he owned the lane he was in and because of him money was made for everybody. Half a decade later Diddy is doing full choreography with Sting at the VMAs and nobody says a word.

most radio stations would cut out the rapper and play the song without them too.