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MikeStamina said:
lol at equal billing...okay guy.

Nas drops out the project, NO MORE PROJECT


So much for equal billing.
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The Firm was a thing BEFORE Stoute. It comes out no matter what, and possibly even better since you no longer have Trackmasters involved. They had songs before Stoute. This isn't Bravehearts that needed a Nas co-sign. Or Junior Mafia, or any of the others.

Soymuscle Mike said:
Nature talked about this on Drinkchamps. Basically all of their labels got involved which killed the vibe and chemistry.
They were being charged to be on songs with Nas/Foxy and don't forget DR. DRE way more than AZ/Nature. Which is why you get the features (NORE/HalfAMill/Canibus etc) and not a lot of group joints.

Nas and Dre were the stars of the show, Foxy comes right after - AZ and Nature were considered b-team by the labels.
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I'm not talking about the labels. We knew the politics behind it. I'm talking about how everyone viewed Nas & AZ....equals. We already knew that because Stoute who was involved with Sony at the time, was pushing only for his artist, and he was also tryna push AZ out. It was on Aftermath, so that's how you got the Dre, but Dre in '96 was "ehhhhhhh." With all of politics, they still couldn't stop EVERYONE from calling it a Supergroup, and still treating it like AZ & Nas were the same....from magazines, to music media outlets.
 
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nieman said:
Yet, Nas was still considered the same level as AZ. It doesn't matter what he sold, we didn't care back then, cause no one ever mentioned them as not equals, and by fall '97 when that album dropped, Foxy was bigger than all of them...whatever Nas had done in '96 was no longer shining as bright. He was doing Will Smith ish, and '97 Escobar had already dropped which most people weren't feeling. Nature was the only newcomer. It was pegged a "supergroup." It might have been the first attempt at a supergroup. It wasn't Nas & his underlings. It wasn't called Nas presents The Firm, the official title was The Firm - The Album, with (Nas, Foxy, AZ and Nature Present). If anything, you can argue that anticipation for The Firm is what kept Nas somewhat in the mix in '97.

Similar example - Meth's Tical in '94 outsold Rae '95 & Ghost '96. Them dudes were still considered the same level. Nas & Mobb - Nas was selling more, but Nas & P were considered on the same level.
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Guy stop derailing the thread with stupid lies.
Your memory is warped as fukk
This dude just basically did his own version of "people forgot Nas mc'ed" lol
Just loud n wrong. Off ya mic dude. You're incoherent
 
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nieman said:
The Firm was a thing BEFORE Stoute. It comes out no matter what, and possibly even better since you no longer have Trackmasters involved. They had songs before Stoute. This isn't Bravehearts that needed a Nas co-sign. Or Junior Mafia, or any of the others.



I'm not talking about the labels. We knew the politics behind it. I'm talking about how everyone viewed Nas & AZ....equals. We already knew that because Stoute who was involved with Sony at the time, was pushing only for his artist, and he was also tryna push AZ out. It was on Aftermath, so that's how you got the Dre, but Dre in '96 was "ehhhhhhh." With all of politics, they still couldn't stop EVERYONE from calling it a Supergroup, and still treating it like AZ & Nas were the same....from magazines, to music media outlets.
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The Firm without Nas is still the Firm?
And a major label will still push forward with the project? lol...this guy

I believe your method is called Alternative Reality.

I'm done Boss. You got it
 
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nieman said:
The Firm was a thing BEFORE Stoute. It comes out no matter what, and possibly even better since you no longer have Trackmasters involved. They had songs before Stoute. This isn't Bravehearts that needed a Nas co-sign. Or Junior Mafia, or any of the others.



I'm not talking about the labels. We knew the politics behind it. I'm talking about how everyone viewed Nas & AZ....equals. We already knew that because Stoute who was involved with Sony at the time, was pushing only for his artist, and he was also tryna push AZ out. It was on Aftermath, so that's how you got the Dre, but Dre in '96 was "ehhhhhhh." With all of politics, they still couldn't stop EVERYONE from calling it a Supergroup, and still treating it like AZ & Nas were the same....from magazines, to music media outlets.
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You living in another reality if you think that magazines and media outlets were putting Nas and AZ on the same level.


Nas in 96 was on the cover of the Source being called the LEADER of the new school. Not Biggie, Not Pac, Not Snoop, CERTAINLY not AZ

 
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