Coronavirus Religious Debate

[Chrishaune]

Cmon Man....

So you're trying to say God is sending people to hell because He wants to.....? Because I have a word for that.

 

[Chrishaune]

Ephesians 1:4-13
4Even before he made the world, God loved us and chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault in his eyes.
5God decided in advance to adopt us into his own family by bringing us to himself through Jesus Christ. This is what he wanted to do, and it gave him great pleasure.
6So we praise God for the glorious grace he has poured out on us who belong to his dear Son.
7He is so rich in kindness and grace that he purchased our freedom with the blood of his Son and forgave our sins.
8He has showered his kindness on us, along with all wisdom and understanding.
9God has now revealed to us his mysterious will regarding Christ—which is to fulfill his own good plan.
10And this is the plan: At the right time he will bring everything together under the authority of Christ—everything in heaven and on earth
11Furthermore, because we are united with Christ, we have received an inheritance from God, for he chose us in advance, and he makes everything work out according to his plan.
12God’s purpose was that we Jews who were the first to trust in Christ would bring praise and glory to God.
13And now you Gentiles have also heard the truth, the Good News that God saves you. And when you believed in Christ, he identified you as his own by giving you the Holy Spirit, whom he promised long ago.

So everything God wants is for us to live with Him in eternity.
You can choose whether you want to go that way or not. That's not Him choosing for you. Actually He's done everything He can to have you live with Him.
But still some people choose to go the other way. At some point in everybody's life, they choose to go the other way. That's why what was done had to be done. Adam is not the only one that sinned. He was the first man to sin.

 

[JustCKing]

Death came because of the fall of man. We were destined to live in eternity with God up to that point. God visited them and they could see Him. After the fall, man could not stand to see God without being destroyed. God barred man from the Garden where the Tree of Life was so man wouldn't eat from the tree and trap himself into a fallen state for eternity. The Tree of Life is a tree that produces fruit, that gives man immortality. We lost access when the first man sinned, because God was merciful. He wanted us to be able to live with Him again.

All of this has been recorded in history. Even countries that have governments in this modern world that don't believe in (Yahweh) God have ancient artifacts telling the story of what happened in The Garden.
China being one of them.

I think The Church misconstrued sin and what sin actually. Sin is sickness. Adam ate something he wasn't supposed to eat and it ultimately killed him. I mean, he was warned that eating it would result in death. So when you look at it, he died from eating of the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil. Because of his sin, sin was passed from him to his seed (parrallelism). Pretty much made sin a genetic and hereditary ailment through which a person deteriorates over time and dies. The common cold, flu, or whatever other disease (chronic or temporary) are symptoms of sin.

 

[JustCKing]

So you're trying to say God is sending people to hell because He wants to.....? Because I have a word for that.

I don't think God sends people to Hell, which is a concept that has been misconstrued by the Church.

 

[Silkk]

So you're trying to say God is sending people to hell because He wants to.....? Because I have a word for that.

Im saying you contradicted the hell out of yourself.......I have a word for that too

 

[Chrishaune]

Im saying you contradicted the hell out of yourself.......I have a word for that too

That's just the way it is. I didn't contradict anything. But this just proves a man can't wrap his mind around everything God can do. God is infinite. God is everywhere. God knows everything. You can't outsmart God. You can't beat God.

 

[Silkk]

That's just the way it is. I didn't contradict anything. But this just proves a man can't wrap his mind around everything God can do. God is infinite. God is everywhere. God knows everything. You can't outsmart God. You can't beat God.

Or you just refuse to use logic and change what you say with every post. Spin, Spin, Spin. Should've just dropped the Juelz gif and been done with it.

 

[Chrishaune]

Or you just refuse to use logic and change what you say with every post. Spin, Spin, Spin. Should've just dropped the Juelz gif and been done with it.

You can believe how you want. That's still not my problem. Go study if you really want to know for yourself.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Look, if it's meant for you to go it's going to take you. Everybody has an appointed time. Now is the time to think about your eternity. This thing doesn't kill most people that catch it, but some do die. It's like any other virus going around. We all have to cross over at some point. You don't have to be scared out here.

fukk You

 

[Chrishaune]

fukk You

You can know it now, or be forced to realize it later. It's still not my problem.

 

[levitate]

If everyone has “an appointed time”...then that means that there is no free will, that we are “living” as characters in a book, and that all suffering is caused by god.

 

[Chrishaune]

If everyone has “an appointed time”...then that means that there is no free will, that we are “living” as characters in a book, and that all suffering is caused by god.

Appointed time means you are born to die. That's all that means. You are mixing that up with God knowing the exact day you die.

 

[levitate]

Appointed time means you are born to die. That's all that means. You are mixing that up with God knowing the exact day you die.

appointed time = a time decided upon beforehand

Thus if your exact time of death has been predetermined, then there is nothing you can do to avoid it, thus no true free will.

 

[number21]

I wonder if you nikkas was this much in a uproar when swine flu was going around or the bird flu or Zika and so on.

 

[ColdSlither]

God knowing everything doesn't mean it's predetermined. God lives in another realm. He can see the past, present, and future at the same time. He knows what's going to happen, and what happened to make that particular thing happen. He doesn't control what you do does He? You do what you want to do everyday, right. But God knows what you're going to do today, tomorrow, a year from now, until you die.

That is the definition of predetermined. That means he's just a passive viewer in all of this. It would mean that he is not all powerful and is just a cog in a bigger machine. So, if he can't control what I do, then I'm going to do what I need to do to ensure my own survival and happiness.