Coronavirus Thread: Worldwide Pandemic

BK The Great

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This always reminds me of the "But I'm a good drunk driver so it won't matter" argument. At the end of the day, if you are doing something that has an above chance in ending in disaster, it is safe to assume your contemporaries are engaging in similar behavior and so you are under-representing your chance of ruin because you are only accounting for yourself.

IOW, if you find it socially acceptable to drive drunk, others around you will likely reach similar conclusions and so you are missing half the risk when you only account for your own actions.


I'm not a drinker really. But where i'm at i'm not seeing as much people bunched up together as much as they say it is, unless it's the night life or something but that is something i do not partake in. Safety protocols are still in place, stores still requiring to wear masks and keep distance from one another. Every one in my household still wears masks and two of them have been vaccinated.
 

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Football season coming up.

Gonna be some grade A fukkery afoot when there’s going to be civil war in the locker room when it comes to vaccines.

Oh yea, good luck enforcing masks in the stadiums and tailgate parties.

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You telling me all these people are vaccinated? I don't believe it. Be safe though if you doing this in a pandemic. Research on how long pandemics end, they don't just magically disappear in one year.



 

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The CDC is planning to release a report that shows that vaccinated people can spread COVID. It just came out yesterday:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/30/health/cdc-vaccinated-delta.html

High viral loads suggest an increased risk of transmission and raised concern that, unlike with other variants, vaccinated people infected with Delta can transmit the virus,” Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the C.D.C., said on Friday.

The viral load data indicate that even fully immunized people can spread the virus as easily as unvaccinated people who become infected. “We believe at individual level they might, which is why we updated our recommendation,” Dr. Walensky said in an email to The New York Times earlier this week.


This is why they are telling states to return to mask mandates.

Most people aren’t getting sick if vaccinated but you can still catch it and give it to others.
You do know the CDC hasn’t released this information because it’s flimsy,right?

Here’s what the CDC director says about the data that won’t publish


This doesn’t sound like a Situation where vaccinated people should live in fear of spreading the virus
. On Tuesday, Walensky said that she had seen data showing "that in rare occasions, some vaccinated people infected with the delta variant after vaccination may be contagious and spread the virus to others." She called the data "worrisome" while announcing that fully vaccinated individuals should return to wearing masks in indoor public spaces in areas that are seeing substantial or high virus transmission.

Once again, until the CDC released their data on why vaccinated people need more restrictions. Vaccinated people should be living life

I mean how did we get to the point in pandemic where people are judging vaccinated people when Everyone is saying that this is now “ a pandemic of the unvaccinated” :dead:

 

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"Society is an artificial construction, a defense against nature's power. Without society, we would be storm- tossed on the barbarous area that is nature. Society is a system of inherited forms reducing our humiliating passivity to nature. We may alter these forms, slowly or suddenly, but no change in society will change nature. Human beings are not nature's favorites. We are merely one of a multitude of species upon which nature indiscriminately exerts its force. Nature has a master agenda we can only dimly know."
 

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You do know the CDC hasn’t released this information because it’s flimsy,right?

Here’s what the CDC director says about the data that won’t publish


This doesn’t sound like a Situation where vaccinated people should live in fear of spreading the virus
Wollinsky didn’t say it was flimsy. She said people should wear masks and her agency is now telling us vaccinated people to wear masks.

Just keep it real and say you are an anti-masker.
 

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"Society is an artificial construction, a defense against nature's power. Without society, we would be storm- tossed on the barbarous area that is nature. Society is a system of inherited forms reducing our humiliating passivity to nature. We may alter these forms, slowly or suddenly, but no change in society will change nature. Human beings are not nature's favorites. We are merely one of a multitude of species upon which nature indiscriminately exerts its force. Nature has a master agenda we can only dimly know."
This reads like Darwinian nonsense. Yes we are but a cog in this natural ecosystem but the construct of society is hardly a defense against nature's power, its guardrails for our ignorance.
 

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Wollinsky didn’t say it was flimsy. She said people should wear masks and her agency is now telling us vaccinated people to wear masks.

Just keep it real and say you are an anti-masker.

You and the CDC need to be focused on how to Incentive, penalize or mandate people to get vaccinated

Not worrying about vaccinated people wearing mask.

The most high risk places for spread like restaurants, clubs, barbershops, mass gatherings wearing mask isn’t even practical
 

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You and the CDC need to be focused on how to Incentive, penalize or mandate people to get vaccinated

Not worrying about vaccinated people wearing mask.

The most high risk places for spread like restaurants, clubs, barbershops, mass gatherings wearing mask isn’t even practical
You can do both. Again, we in this together.

Make it hard for the unvaccinated to live in our country but also make it hard for those that think we are no longer in a global pandemic because they are vaccinated.
 

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Threats of lockdowns will move the needle on increasing vaccine numbers but would it be enough?

In many states the courts took the teeth out of their governors to do this though.
And to the surprise of no one, a lot of those states are the most unvaxed and the largest numbers of new cases, hospitalizations and deaths currently.
 
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