Coronavirus Thread: Worldwide Pandemic

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Oh god, the China fanatic (s) are going to start with the demonization, so the US has someone to blame. Disgraceful. Escaped from a lab? Please. If it comes out, I'll be first to admit I am wrong. but I suspect it never will, because it was never true.

"Conservatives" or whatever they want to be called, always have a villain, always a monster that we must defeat, for awhile it was the Iraqi's, Iran, now China, and a dozen other nations that we "must be tougher on".
 
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US officials confirm full-scale investigation of whether coronavirus escaped from Wuhan lab

US officials confirm full-scale investigation of whether coronavirus escaped from Wuhan lab
Bret Baier28 mins ago


EXCLUSIVE: The U.S. is conducting a full-scale investigation into whether the novel coronavirus, which went on to morph into a global pandemic that has brought the global economy to its knees, escaped from a lab in Wuhan, China, Fox News has learned.

Intelligence operatives are said to be gathering information about the laboratory and the initial outbreak of the virus. Intelligence analysts are piecing together a timeline of what the government knew and “creating an accurate picture of what happened,” the sources said.

Once that investigation is complete -- something that is expected to happen in the near-term -- the findings will be presented to the Trump administration. At that point White House policymakers and President Trump will use the findings to determine how to hold the country accountable for the pandemic.

Fox News first reported on Wednesday that there is increasing confidence that the outbreak likely originated in a Wuhan lab, not as a bioweapon but as part of a Chinese effort to show that its efforts to identify and combat viruses are equal or greater than those of the U.S.

U.S. officials and the intelligence community have confirmed to Fox News that they have taken the possibility of the coronavirus being man-made or engineered inside China as some sort of bioweapon off the table and have ruled it out at this point.

Sources point to the structure of the virus, in saying the genome mapping specifically shows it was not genetically altered. The sources believe the initial transmission of the virus was a naturally occurring strain that was being studied there -- and then went into the population in Wuhan.


Sources say the investigation of open source and classified data points to the work in the lab of Dr. Shi Zhengli, who was working on antivirals and immunizations for coronavirus, specifically with bats.

US officials are 100 percent confident China went to great lengths to cover up after the virus was out, the sources said.

Additionally, the sources believe that the World Health Organization -- which the president paused funding to this week over its role in the crisis -- was either complicit in the coverup, or looked the other way.

The president hinted at an investigation on Wednesday when he told Fox News’ John Roberts: "More and more we're hearing the story...we are doing a very thorough examination of this horrible situation."

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Friday reiterated that the administration was eyeing the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and accused the Chinese government of stonewalling scientists from finding out what happened.

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“We know that the first sightings of this occurred within miles of the Wuhan Institute of Virology. We know that this – the history of the facility, the first BSL-4 lab where there’s high-end virus research being conducted, took place at that site,” Pompeo said on the Hugh Hewitt Show. “We know that the Chinese Communist Party, when it began to evaluate what to do inside of Wuhan, considered whether the WIV was, in fact, the place where this came from.”

“And most importantly, we know they’ve not permitted the world’s scientists to go into that laboratory to evaluate what took place there, what’s happening there, what’s happening there even as we speak,” he said.

There has been speculation for months, not just in the U.S., that the virus originated in a Chinese laboratory. A February study on the origins of the virus from the South China University of Technology concluded: “In addition to origins of natural recombination and intermediate host, the killer coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory in Wuhan."

Should it turn out that the virus escaped from a Chinese laboratory, the global pushback against the Chinese government could be significant. The virus has infected and killed hundreds of thousands of people and ravaged economies across the globe. Trump, who has frequently taken a hardline towards China even before the crisis, would be expected to lead calls to make Beijing face consequences.

During Thursday's daily press briefing, China's foreign ministry pushed back on claims that anything suspicious had taken place in the Wuhan lab and reiterated there was no evidence that the coronavirus, which has infected more than 2 million people globally, was made there.

"The head of the WHO has stated many times that there is no evidence that the new coronavirus originated in the laboratory," spokesperson Zhao Lijian said. "Many prominent medical experts in the world also believe that the so-called laboratory leaks have no scientific basis."

Fox News’ Barnini Chakraborty and Gregg Re contributed to this report.







This is fake news, I bet 100%.

What is going on is that the Trump administration is doing a misinformation campaign of their own against China since China keeps pushing that the virus started in the US.

This is just part of a propaganda campaign of tit for tat. Don't believe it. There have already been scientific studies, not government speculation, that the disease had biological origins.

Here is the problem for going tit for tat with China. When Obama and previous presidents were in office they didn't engage with wild accusations and conspiracy theories pushed by other countries and most of the world didn't believe them. They were just treated as crazy nuts and as liars by the world at large. Because most countries accepted the scientific explanations that explained issues like this. When you sink to their level you harm your own credibility. I'ms sure there are some people who feel "Yes get AT CHINA" regardless of long term consequences because it emotionally feels good. But its short sighted and stupid. Let China push their lies. No one was buying them. Just called them crazy and make the case for why its not possible and leave it at that.
 

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trump is gonna gain a massive amount of momentum off the country opening up again :huhldup: i can already tell

not this bullshyt right here, but down the road

Election is a long time away, but with how atrocious he's handled this, I think he's fukked. He's given Dems a treasure trove of ammo with his comments from Mid-January to early March. Not to mention he's either double talked or has backed down off of nearly everything he's said.

The gym is like my oasis in life, but I’m not setting foot in a gym for a very long time.

I’ve just being doing massive amounts of pushups and just ordered a pull up bar.

Glad I have a treadmill and weight bench at home along with bands. Just ordered deck of body weight exercise cards off Amazon for $20 a few weeks ago. Going to a gym is a good distraction, but having this in-house has been clutch.

 

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Imagine what he'll say when he loses in November.

This election was a complete, and total fraud. Millions of votes were suppressed, Millions, I was told by my campaign. I told you way back that the Swamp in DC was deep, and now it has become even deeper as Joe Biden stole the presidency from hard working Americans! Don't worry though, don't worry! That's why I am starting up a fundraiser, the biggest, bestest fundraiser in the History of America itself. Where you can help support me as I will sue each and every state for a recount, millions of uncounted ballots still left uncounted folks, that will be legally counted and declare me President of the United States. It will be a long, and lengthy battle. But in the end we will Make America Great Again. Thank you!
 

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This is fake news, I bet 100%.

What is going on is that the Trump administration is doing a misinformation campaign of their own against China since China keeps pushing that the virus started in the US.

This is just part of a propaganda campaign of tit for tat. Don't believe it. There have already been scientific studies, not government speculation, that the disease had biological origins.

Here is the problem for going tit for tat with China. When Obama and previous presidents were in office they didn't engage with wild accusations and conspiracy theories pushed by other countries and most of the world didn't believe them. They were just treated as crazy nuts and as liars by the world at large. Because most countries accepted the scientific explanations that explained issues like this. When you sink to their level you harm your own credibility. I'ms sure there are some people who feel "Yes get AT CHINA" regardless of long term consequences because it emotionally feels good. But its short sighted and stupid. Let China push their lies. No one was buying them. Just called them crazy and make the case for why its not possible and leave it at that.

People are just are too prideful that Humans, the ultimate Apex Predators on Earth, can't be killed by something they can't see. It's the ultimate hard pill to swallow, because we would like to think we are invincible.
 

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It started as some conspiracy theory in Weibo but got picked up by foreign ministry spokesperson Lijian Zhao, he has since claimed he only said it as a response to some US politician (Tom Cotton) claiming the virus leaked from Chinese lab. The fact that many American recalled that they suffered severe Flu in November-December 2019 and also the Vaping illness earlier last year often cited to fuel this conspiracy theory.
I can't tell you how many people I've seen on my ig/fb feed that swear they had this in september/october :snoop:
 

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Thats a big claim and those require a ton of proof. Extrodinary proof before it can be certain
 
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