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Brazilian variant in Canada :francis:





Mass spreading of variants anywhere is a global problem not unlike a falling stack of dominoes. All it takes are a couple tourists slipping through the cracks and suddenly there's a flare up of Brazil or SA covid cases.

The earliest variant specific vaccines won't be approved until late September at earliest, then there is still the matter of manufacturing, testing, delivering and administering hundreds of millions of doses worldwide.

What happens between now and the end of the fall will tell us much about the next 3-5 years.
 

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bruh if some become covid long-haulers, they basically fukked up their income.

Well I mean, lets say they are out/in the ICU. That means recovery, yet they are on the team or IR. Then the Canucks have to sign people to fill the roster, or they just say they forfeit, but I tend to think they would still play. That would mean they have to sign them, and pay them money, but then do they hold off payments to the players still sick on the team or do they cut them?

Not asking for answers, but like this shyt is a clusterfukk of the worst case scenario for a team. With Hockey you have like 20 active players I believe or around that number.

Health comes first obviously, but this is why a bubble was/is a great concept, you can control this from happening but now this is the first team to not just get covid, but players are extremely sick. So like, they will either have to forfeit or makeup the games, and that shyt will piss off other teams if they have to adjust for these guys.
 

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My cousin got the phizer. He’s a lazy fat fukk with a terrible diet and didn’t feel any side effects. Just the sore arm most people experience. Lasted a day and now he said he feels fine.

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The first shot is almost never that bad. It's usually the second that puts people on their ass a day or 2.
 

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Signs of collapse abound in Brazil - CNN


Signs of collapse across Brazil as Covid spirals out of control. Bolsonaro seems to have little response


Analysis by Matt Rivers, CNN



Updated 10:16 PM ET, Sat March 27, 2021



(CNN)You can hear the frustration in the nurse's voice as he narrates the video, walking closer to an open window.

"You have to be an engineer to make this work," he says. "You have to be like MacGyver."
The video moves past a woman on oxygen, the tube running down from her nose to the gurney she's sitting on and, eventually, out that open window.
It runs to another window, the green tube swinging in the breeze above an open courtyard a half-dozen stories below. The tube ends at an oxygen hookup in the wall of the other room.
This is the only way that woman, a Covid-19 patient at this hospital in the Brazilian capital of Brasilia, can get oxygen. The room where the oxygen source is located is so overwhelmed with Covid-19 patients, she has to sit in what is otherwise a hallway, her life-saving oxygen precariously fed to her.
The scene is a microcosm of what is playing out across Brazil right now amid a brutal and out-of-control wave of Covid-19.
On Thursday night, Brazil's Health Ministry reported the gruesome figure of more than 100,000 new Covid-19 cases confirmed in a single day, the country's highest such figure since the pandemic began.
So far, a total of 303,462 people have died in the country from the virus, according to official data.
But it's the seven-day averages that paint an even bleaker picture.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/25/americas/brazil-crisis-committee-intl/index.html

At 15,963 deaths from March 19-25 and 14,610 deaths in the previous week, those are the highest such numbers of the pandemic so far and they are trending in the wrong direction.
Brazil has recorded roughly 24% of all coronavirus deaths worldwide over the past two weeks, according to JHU data.
A Covid-19 variant, P1, continues to rip through the country as experts agree it is more contagious and potentially produces more severe illness than previous strains. Even younger people are not spared.
Of Brazil's 26 states plus its federal district, only one or two on any given day have ICU occupancy rates below 80%.
More than half are above 90%, which means if the healthcare systems haven't yet collapsed already in those states, they are at imminent risk of doing so.
Health systems have been inundated with patients they can no longer adequately take care of due to a critical lack of space and supplies.
As Brazil suffers through its worst days of this pandemic so far, there are signs of collapse at every level of the healthcare system in nearly every state across the country.

Signs of collapse

First responders, hospital personnel and even cemetery employees have told CNN they've been brought to their knees by this latest wave.
"It's a war scenario," said paramedic Luis Eduardo Pimentel in São Paulo. "I can barely describe what I'm seeing, it is so sad what is happening to the country."
He described non-stop Covid-19 calls, unnecessary deaths, and hospitals so overburdened, they take supplies from wherever they can.
CNN spoke to him after his shift ended, earlier than expected, after a hospital took the gurney he had brought his Covid-19 patient in on -- the hospital had run out of beds.
Other examples are myriad.

In a video given to CNN last week, 12 ambulances with patients inside are seen waiting outside a São Paulo hospital for bedspace to open up inside.
CNN visited a Covid-19-designated hospital on Thursday that had stopped accepting patients because they had run out of room. In a section normally reserved for 16 semi-intensive care patients, nearly double that amount were being treated.


Several had already been intubated and would normally have sent to an ICU, but no such space existed in the hospital.
When ICU rates hit 90%, as they did in Sao Paulo on Thursday, they're effectively full, said Geraldo Reple Sobrinho, the state's President of the Council of Municipal Health Secretaries. "In reality, that means total bed occupancy because every time there is a patient who is discharged or dies, you need time to clean this bed and change the equipment. It takes four, five hours."

In the meantime, more and more patients keep dying. On several recent days, there have been so many deaths that burials in São Paulo cemeteries are happening every few minutes.
Crematoriums have not been able to keep up. In a video shared with CNN, at least two dozen coffins can be seen waiting to be cremated -- the demand is about three times what the facility can handle in a single day.
The government response ... or lack of it

As his country has reeled during this latest outbreak, President Jair Bolsonaro has yet to take any significant steps to try and implement a coordinated national response.
He did deliver a televised address to the country on Tuesday night, saying 2021 would be the "year of the vaccine."

210324153847-bolsonaro-coronavirus-presser-0324-exlarge-169.jpg


Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro gives a press conference at the Alvorada Palace in Brasilia on March 24.

But critics derided the 3-minute speech as a half-hearted attempt at a public-relations rescue on a day where Brazil set its own record for most coronavirus deaths recorded in a single day.
The federal government appeared to commit another own goal the following day, with the Health Ministry announcing that it would require more information from municipalities reporting Covid-19 victim information.
That sparked immediate concern that the additional requirements would lower the number of Covid-19 deaths that were reported.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/17/amer...tics-amanpour-interview-intl-latam/index.html
Those concerns appeared to be immediately justified as Wednesday's reported death toll was nearly 1,200 fewer than the previous day.
By the end of the day Wednesday, the Health Ministry suspended the new reporting requirements after severe backlash from states and the public.
Absent a coordinated federal response, any restrictions put in place designed to stem the spread of the virus have been left to individual states.
Rio de Janeiro, São Paulo, and Minas Gerais are among the states that have implemented nightly curfews, even as the Bolsonaro administration filed suit in Brazil's Supreme Court declaring that only the federal government has the right to impose such restrictions.

The court this week sided with the states, however, calling Bolsonaro's argument "totalitarian."

CNN's Natalie Gallón, journalists Marcia Reverdosa and Eduardo Duwe and CNN's Kara Fox contributed to this report.
 

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Signs of collapse abound in Brazil - CNN


Signs of collapse across Brazil as Covid spirals out of control. Bolsonaro seems to have little response


Analysis by Matt Rivers, CNN



Updated 10:16 PM ET, Sat March 27, 2021



(CNN)You can hear the frustration in the nurse's voice as he narrates the video, walking closer to an open window.

"You have to be an engineer to make this work," he says. "You have to be like MacGyver."
The video moves past a woman on oxygen, the tube running down from her nose to the gurney she's sitting on and, eventually, out that open window.
It runs to another window, the green tube swinging in the breeze above an open courtyard a half-dozen stories below. The tube ends at an oxygen hookup in the wall of the other room.
This is the only way that woman, a Covid-19 patient at this hospital in the Brazilian capital of Brasilia, can get oxygen. The room where the oxygen source is located is so overwhelmed with Covid-19 patients, she has to sit in what is otherwise a hallway, her life-saving oxygen precariously fed to her.
The scene is a microcosm of what is playing out across Brazil right now amid a brutal and out-of-control wave of Covid-19.
On Thursday night, Brazil's Health Ministry reported the gruesome figure of more than 100,000 new Covid-19 cases confirmed in a single day, the country's highest such figure since the pandemic began.
So far, a total of 303,462 people have died in the country from the virus, according to official data.
But it's the seven-day averages that paint an even bleaker picture.


At 15,963 deaths from March 19-25 and 14,610 deaths in the previous week, those are the highest such numbers of the pandemic so far and they are trending in the wrong direction.
Brazil has recorded roughly 24% of all coronavirus deaths worldwide over the past two weeks, according to JHU data.
A Covid-19 variant, P1, continues to rip through the country as experts agree it is more contagious and potentially produces more severe illness than previous strains. Even younger people are not spared.
Of Brazil's 26 states plus its federal district, only one or two on any given day have ICU occupancy rates below 80%.
More than half are above 90%, which means if the healthcare systems haven't yet collapsed already in those states, they are at imminent risk of doing so.
Health systems have been inundated with patients they can no longer adequately take care of due to a critical lack of space and supplies.
As Brazil suffers through its worst days of this pandemic so far, there are signs of collapse at every level of the healthcare system in nearly every state across the country.

Signs of collapse

First responders, hospital personnel and even cemetery employees have told CNN they've been brought to their knees by this latest wave.
"It's a war scenario," said paramedic Luis Eduardo Pimentel in São Paulo. "I can barely describe what I'm seeing, it is so sad what is happening to the country."
He described non-stop Covid-19 calls, unnecessary deaths, and hospitals so overburdened, they take supplies from wherever they can.
CNN spoke to him after his shift ended, earlier than expected, after a hospital took the gurney he had brought his Covid-19 patient in on -- the hospital had run out of beds.
Other examples are myriad.

In a video given to CNN last week, 12 ambulances with patients inside are seen waiting outside a São Paulo hospital for bedspace to open up inside.
CNN visited a Covid-19-designated hospital on Thursday that had stopped accepting patients because they had run out of room. In a section normally reserved for 16 semi-intensive care patients, nearly double that amount were being treated.


Several had already been intubated and would normally have sent to an ICU, but no such space existed in the hospital.
When ICU rates hit 90%, as they did in Sao Paulo on Thursday, they're effectively full, said Geraldo Reple Sobrinho, the state's President of the Council of Municipal Health Secretaries. "In reality, that means total bed occupancy because every time there is a patient who is discharged or dies, you need time to clean this bed and change the equipment. It takes four, five hours."

In the meantime, more and more patients keep dying. On several recent days, there have been so many deaths that burials in São Paulo cemeteries are happening every few minutes.
Crematoriums have not been able to keep up. In a video shared with CNN, at least two dozen coffins can be seen waiting to be cremated -- the demand is about three times what the facility can handle in a single day.
The government response ... or lack of it

As his country has reeled during this latest outbreak, President Jair Bolsonaro has yet to take any significant steps to try and implement a coordinated national response.
He did deliver a televised address to the country on Tuesday night, saying 2021 would be the "year of the vaccine."

210324153847-bolsonaro-coronavirus-presser-0324-exlarge-169.jpg


Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro gives a press conference at the Alvorada Palace in Brasilia on March 24.

But critics derided the 3-minute speech as a half-hearted attempt at a public-relations rescue on a day where Brazil set its own record for most coronavirus deaths recorded in a single day.
The federal government appeared to commit another own goal the following day, with the Health Ministry announcing that it would require more information from municipalities reporting Covid-19 victim information.
That sparked immediate concern that the additional requirements would lower the number of Covid-19 deaths that were reported.

Those concerns appeared to be immediately justified as Wednesday's reported death toll was nearly 1,200 fewer than the previous day.
By the end of the day Wednesday, the Health Ministry suspended the new reporting requirements after severe backlash from states and the public.
Absent a coordinated federal response, any restrictions put in place designed to stem the spread of the virus have been left to individual states.
Rio de Janeiro, São Paulo, and Minas Gerais are among the states that have implemented nightly curfews, even as the Bolsonaro administration filed suit in Brazil's Supreme Court declaring that only the federal government has the right to impose such restrictions.

The court this week sided with the states, however, calling Bolsonaro's argument "totalitarian."

CNN's Natalie Gallón, journalists Marcia Reverdosa and Eduardo Duwe and CNN's Kara Fox contributed to this report.




That dude is a piece of shyt.
 

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Fauci hits back at rightwing criticism and says attacks on him 'bizarre'

Scientist forced to defend himself from attacks by Trump allies and says ‘I can’t be bothered with getting distracted’

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Fauci, pictured here with Debora Birx, said he had become a scapegoat for rightwing figures. Photograph: Mandel Ngan/AFP/Getty Images

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Mon 5 Apr 2021 09.46 EDT

Anthony Fauci has described attacks on him from Republicans as “bizarre”, after a barrage of criticism from senior GOP figures.

The infectious disease expert who has led the US effort against Covid-19 was forced to defend himself after a former Trump official called him “the father of the actual virus” and the senator Lindsay Graham followed other Republicans in urging Fauci – Joe Biden’s chief medical adviser and the head of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, to travel to the US-Mexico border.

Speaking to Fox News, Fauci said he had become a scapegoat for rightwing figures.

“I’ve been a symbol to them of what they don’t like about anything that has to do with things that are contrary to them, anything outside of their own realm,” he said.

In a flurry of tweets on Friday, Graham, from South Carolina, told Fauci: “You need to go to the southern border and witness in person the biggest super-spreader event in the nation.”

Graham was referring to thousands of migrants being held in overcrowded conditions. The administration has said asylum seekers are tested for coronavirus on arrival in the US. It was unclear what Graham thought a Fauci visit would achieve.

“It’s a little bit bizarre, I would say,” Fauci said. “I mean … Lindsey Graham, who I like, he’s … you know, he’s a good person, I’ve dealt with him very, very well over the years, you know, equating me with things that have to do at the border? I mean, I have nothing to do with the border.

“Having me down at the border, that’s really not what I do.”

Fauci, 80, has served seven presidents since 1984, leading the fight against Aids and HIV before emerging as the trusted public face of attempts to contain the coronavirus pandemic.

On Wednesday Peter Navarro, who served in various roles under Donald Trump, launched a bizarre rant during an interview with Fox News.

Asked about Fauci’s comment that his pursuit of a vaccine was “the best decision ever made”, Navarro said: “Fauci is a sociopath and a liar. He had nothing to do with the vaccine. The father of the vaccine is Donald J Trump.

“What is Fauci the father of? Fauci is the father of the actual virus.”

Fauci responded, asking: “How bizarre is that? Think about it for a second. Isn’t that a little weird? I mean, come on.”

Last week Mark Meadows, Trump’s former chief of staff, accused Fauci of remaining silent over conditions at the border. An Alabama congressman also urged Fauci to get involved. In February Marco Rubio, a senator from Florida, criticized Fauci, saying his job “is not to mislead or scare” the American public.

Fauci demurred when asked to respond.

“I am so busy trying to do some important things to preserve the health and the safety of the American people that I can’t be bothered with getting distracted with these people that are doing these ad hominems,” he said.
 

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Lots of negative reporting about the AZ vaccine at the mo. Update pending but it might not be suitable for the young in the UK.

It has already been suspended from use for younger-people in a number of nations.

Oxford–AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine - Wikipedia

"'Professor Lockdown' Neil Ferguson said older and middle-aged groups should 'very much' get the vaccine because the threat of coronavirus far outweighs the risk of the clots [but this relationship changes for much younger people]."
AstraZeneca's Covid vaccine 'may not be suitable for young people', Prof Lockdown says | Daily Mail Online


2.

I haven't been vaccinated yet but if / when I do I will not be taking the AZ one.

3.

The Vaccines (as do medicines) can extend the period for which people with weak immune systems remain infected (without dying). Under normal circumstances they might otherwise have died but medicines and vaccines allow them to over time fight off the infection and recover.

"The Boston patient is now being viewed as an important harbinger of the coronavirus’ ability to spin off new and more dangerous versions of itself. Though he died over the summer, the medical file he left behind is helping experts anticipate the emergence of new strains by focusing on the role of a growing population of patients with compromised immune systems who battle the virus for months."
Dangerous new coronavirus strains may incubate in COVID-19's sickest

As the vaccines shift disease progression this will become clearer. Also what does that mean for people who become chronically / long-term ill (even asymptotically so) over longer periods? do they have to be monitored / isolated.
 

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A few things....

-thank god that cac ain’t been posting in here for a while. Hopefully it stays like that.

- I just found out my sisters baby father got Covid-19 and it caused a blood clot so now he’s on blood thinners.:francis: Dude is in his early 30s too. Y’all be safe out there.


- make sure y’all get the vaccine but continue to wear masks. I know people wanna get out do stuff and see family. shyt I got my vaccines in dec/Jan and my wife about to get her second Pfizer shot on Thursday. So we about ready to jump on a plane soon.
 

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Mass spreading of variants anywhere is a global problem not unlike a falling stack of dominoes. All it takes are a couple tourists slipping through the cracks and suddenly there's a flare up of Brazil or SA covid cases.

The earliest variant specific vaccines won't be approved until late September at earliest, then there is still the matter of manufacturing, testing, delivering and administering hundreds of millions of doses worldwide.

What happens between now and the end of the fall will tell us much about the next 3-5 years.
We ain’t ever getting this under control without shutting down major travel.

1st world counties are having problems like Australia and Canda in getting vaccinated but we haven't even started talking about India or the Middle East (outside of Israel).
 

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We ain’t ever getting this under control without shutting down major travel.

1st world counties are having problems like Australia and Canda in getting vaccinated but we having even started talking about India or the Middle East(outside of Israel)
With super strict border controls, visitors driven by convoy to quarantine hotels and monitored until their covid status is confirmed it could be somewhat effective in slowing the spread of variants. But that's a bit unreasonable, and I'm sure wealthy visitors could find a way around these measures.

The second best option is to let citizens go out on trips while closing borders for foreign tourists until the 2nd gen variant specific vaccines are available in 5 months.
 
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