Coronavirus Thread: Worldwide Pandemic

[BK The Great]

Let me check

End of September is just two month away

How about Moderna?

 

[nyknick]

How about Moderna?

Moderna should be a month or two later since they applied for full approval a month after Pfizer.

 

[BK The Great]

Moderna should be a month or two later since they applied for full approval a month after Pfizer.

Oh ok. Moderna might be my choice if anything.

 

[88m3]

So it’s gonna take forever then.

You're considering waiting for the virus to burn itself out right?

 

[TheDarceKnight]

You wanted the shot so why do you gotta be mad at someone for not following suit? Neg or not, people are aware it’s a experimental shot and people are still skeptical. I’m not anti vaccine but I’m questioning what is going on here.

Just own it fam. You’re one of my homies in the booth. If you’re not vaccinated at this point and you don’t have a legitimate medical condition as to why you shouldn’t be, then you’re anti-vaxx.

it’s not the end of the world but that’s what it is. “6 in one hand, half dozen in the other”.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

These stories keep piling up

fukkin idiots

 

[BK The Great]

You're considering waiting for the virus to burn itself out right?

No

Just own it fam. You’re one of my homies in the booth. If you’re not vaccinated at this point and you don’t have a legitimate medical condition as to why you shouldn’t be, then you’re anti-vaxx.

it’s not the end of the world but that’s what it is. “6 in one hand, half dozen in the other”.

But i'm not. It's just you gotta question exactly what is going on. I'm sure people do want to just take it and not worry about a thing. Not everyone will react to it the way they want it to be.

 

[BK The Great]

Who reported me?

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

Wow this looks familiar.

 

[Hood Critic]

Random/unrelated. I feel like there are two types of unvaxxed camps at this point. There are people who are extremely on the fence about things but can be persuaded, and there are people that just keep moving the goal posts from conspiracy theory to conspiracy theory.

I can't tell if vaxxed people underestimated the people on the fence, or if people are shifting their POV as people around them are dropping. Either way, similar to low-information voters who have had their head buried in the sand, there are people out there that, despite it being late AF in the game, can be nudged in the right direction. Please keep that in mind as you engage with people in your daily. (This doesn't apply to people who are unvaxxed yet continuously posting in a thread about a pandemic... Olympic levels of cognitive dissonance there, I swear...)

 

[AquaCityBoy]

How it started:



How it's going:

 

[storyteller]

Then what's the hold up of approving the damn thing?






Listen it's a person's choice to take it. There's still a 100 Million people who haven't took it. Can't be mad at me Ain't nothing wrong with being skeptical of this entire rollout. Again, i'm not mad at no one taking this thing.

Generally speaking that process for approval takes a LOT longer just out an over abundance of caution. Should anything be off about the vaccine, then anti-vaxers would use it in a manner that causes potentially irreparable damage to the public trust...just look at how they use completely false evidence like that one debunked study linking autism to vaccines for why this caution exists.

To see how this caution works, look at how small the cohorts had to be that caught Bell's Palsy before trials were halted and data was reviewed. There are a couple of other examples of this you'd be able to find, but basically...very small margins of people showed a potential adverse effect and trials were immediately halted to review for any legitimate correlation. Media reported on these in a scary manner to make matters worse. Then the correlations were disproven and while the scientific world moved on; the damage was done.

In terms of making a personal choice. I can respect that. But I do wonder at what point is there enough evidence? I'm not talking about FDA approval, but just looking at the data and the obvious conclusion. We're looking at over 4 billion doses administered worldwide, over 1 billion people fully vaxxed, and over a year since clinical trials on the vaccines began. No serious adverse effects have been correlated to the vaccines, even late appearing side effects ought to have shown up by now from such a dramatically large cohort. Are their extremely rare examples of serious adverse effects? Yes...that's true of literally ANYTHING and the appearance of those adverse side effects are far less likely than catching COVID or dying of it. I also don't think there would be such a massive effort going toward protecting the intellectual properties of these vaccines if they were unsafe...they'd be using poor countries to test the shoddy vaccines out rather than hording them for use by wealthy nations.

 

[Hood Critic]

 

[TheDarceKnight]

But i'm not. It's just you gotta question exactly what is going on. I'm sure people do want to just take it and not worry about a thing. Not everyone will react to it the way they want it to be.

For sure. But the known problems of Covid for society in the long term are almost certainly more dangerous than the vaccine not reacting the way that individuals might think.

I am all for people choosing what they put into their bodies. But it's getting tough. Because at the end of the day, the good of the many does outweigh the good of the few. At some point, we all have a responsibility to help out society and our fellow citizens, and we can all do our part to help get this over with faster.

Just because I got vaccinated doesn't mean I'm not questioning what's going on, or I'm a sheep. I've just made a decision that based on the scientific literature (not filtered through CNN, MSNBC, FOX, or whatever) indicates that our world will be better off if I do my part to get vaxxed. At some point, everyone that isn't getting vaxxed is hurting themselves and hurting those of us that sucked it up and got the shyt over with.

I can empathize with not wanting to get shot with something that's not fully FDA approved yet. But like...I've lost almost more than a handful of people in the past 15 months to Covid that I really loved and cared about. And it's pissing me off that this list is likely to continue to pile up just because some people aren't willing to make a personal sacrifice to help everyone else out here.

This is all fairly simple math. We need to stay ahead of these mutations.

I mean, you're not getting vaccinated, and you're encouraging people to keep asking questions re: the vaccine, and that's what anti-vaxxers do. I don't hate you personally for it or anything, not at all. But it does seem like that's what it is.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

I have mixed feelings on this. I think it's more of a way for them to politicize the virus, and less about trying to pick on obese people.

However, I guess it could be both.

I definitely despise the politicization of the virus. And I'm not for shaming overweight or obese people. But I'm very against the NAAFA and fat acceptance movements that try to bullshyt people and say that obese people can be just as healthy as people that aren't obese. Those folks are just delusional.