Could any other rapper's career survive what Jay Z's went thru?

ThirdAct

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Drake. Has been called soft and made fun of his whole career and got completely destroyed in not just one but two battles with the whole world watching but he's still gonna be selling regardless.
 

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The stabbing has to be #1 on the list because that shyt could have gone very differently. You accidently kill somebody at damn near the apex of your career...it's over. Removing Jay from the equation in 1999/2000 could have had some pretty huge ramifications. Maybe Kanye ends up on another label with less support and he never becomes Kanye. Maybe another rapper becomes the next big NY guy and elevates beyond where they would have been. Camron for instance. What does Nas' career look like (post I Am) if he's the last man standing and all the producers are calling Steve Stoute.
 

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  • Ross survived being exposed as a co during a beef with 50
It's actually amazing to me. That CO info predated the 50 situation.
Trick Daddy was mad at Rick Ross and Plies and dropped that bomb on him. When Ross denied(hilariously) then TheSmokingGun dropped the proof.
Then he finally admitted it.
Then Ross jumped out the window lowkey dissing everybody with this one

His career was almost done for when he dropped this. At the time I thought it was a stupid move after everybody knew he was a co and a liar.
But It was genius tho. He switched his flow up too.
I kinda miss the old boobie boy flow.
 

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:yeshrug: As long as you make hits people don’t care.
  • Wayne survived kissing another man in the mouth.
  • Drake survived having writers and getting pissed on
  • Ross survived being exposed as a co during a beef with 50
  • Kayne survived being a nutcase
I'd like to also add in have popularity on your side.
 

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It's actually amazing to me. That CO info predated the 50 situation.
Trick Daddy was mad at Rick Ross and Plies and dropped that bomb on him. When Ross denied(hilariously) then TheSmokingGun dropped the proof.
Then he finally admitted it.
Then Ross jumped out the window lowkey dissing everybody with this one

His career was almost done for when he dropped this. At the time I thought it was a stupid move after everybody knew he was a co and a liar.
But It was genius tho. He switched his flow up too.
I kinda miss the old boobie boy flow.


Ross should have just said yeah I needed a job so I did that shyt a couple years, don't change nothing else. In his book he admitted that, and said something like he just ain't understand the internet at the time :russ:

Ross music won out though. As it should. Dude's catalog is tough.
 

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Coli wet dream. Making threads everyday fantasizing about Jay z is nasty work.

He stepped away from the game so y'all should be happy. No need to discuss him
 

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He would’ve been T.I. Status if he didn’t marry Beyoncé
It's actually the opposite.

Jay made Beyonce go from cute rnb chick to Icon. From taking over her PR team, choosing her moves. Hustling for her the best songs(crazy in love was snatched from Amerie, for example), his connection with music moguls and the media helped her hype and elevated her.

I'm a Nas fan but Jay Z is not respected or highly regarded because he married Beyonce. It would be the same even if he hadn't.
 

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Coli wet dream. Making threads everyday fantasizing about Jay z is nasty work.

He stepped away from the game so y'all should be happy. No need to discuss him
I’m really trying to figure out what’s the issue

He don’t talk he really don’t put out music

He not on social media

Might see or hear from him every blue moon


But still the topic a discussion he 54


He out the way


What is it at this point?
 

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It's actually the opposite.

Jay made Beyonce go from cute rnb chick to Icon. From taking over her PR team, choosing her moves. Hustling for her the best songs(crazy in love was snatched from Amerie, for example), his connection with music moguls and the media helped her hype and elevated her.

I'm a Nas fan but Jay Z is not respected or highly regarded because he married Beyonce. It would be the same even if he hadn't.

Nope.. Jay got humiliated by Nas in 2001, dropped his worst album in 2002.. had to fake a retirement because his career was cold.

Beyoncé in 2003 was the hottest thing in music
She was going straight to the top With or without a ride from the Camel
 
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